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Aren't middle management and above wages paid by gm na? So have zero effect on local production costs...

The union arguement could go on for ever, well at least until flappest turns up and locks it down, unionists are never going to see non-unionists side, and vice versa... Not much point in trying to convince each other otherwise.

But back to the topic... If you guys worked at Holden, how would you vote?

Me, I'd vote for no reduction in conditions. IMO holdens gone, and they're just trying to spend as little cash now as possible winding the place up.