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Old 05-10-2010, 11:57 AM   #1
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Default Territory receiving a face lift and rear end treatment??

Just saw a Territory coming out of Ford in Broady with front bra and rear end covered in black. Same doors, same roof, different wheels and what looked like projector headlights and different headlight lining on the territory

So when is this beast coming out?

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Old 05-10-2010, 12:44 PM   #2
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Just saw a Territory coming out of Ford in Broady with front bra and rear end covered in black. Same doors, same roof, different wheels and what looked like projector headlights and different headlight lining on the territory

So when is this beast coming out?
Ssshhh, it's a secret...........

Will most likely be on display at the Sydney Motor Show in a couple of weeks.
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Territory is looking real old now, and is in desperate need of some major sheet metal changes.

What we'll see in a few weeks will be a bit of a nip and tuck. That's all. Territory is fast falling out of favour with the buying public - the quality, rust and ball joint issues are now common knowledge unfortunately.

I think Ford have dropped the ball on the Terry. Which is a shame because its probably the best designed vehicle this country has ever done.
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Territory is looking real old now, and is in desperate need of some major sheet metal changes.

What we'll see in a few weeks will be a bit of a nip and tuck. That's all. Territory is fast falling out of favour with the buying public - the quality, rust and ball joint issues are now common knowledge unfortunately.

I think Ford have dropped the ball on the Terry. Which is a shame because its probably the best designed vehicle this country has ever done.
Only a nip and tuck?
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Only a nip and tuck?
Well, going by the spy shots I've seen, I don't think we'll be seeing any major changes.
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Old 05-10-2010, 01:10 PM   #6
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Theres def some mech changes as well, we're doing some new parts for the Steering column which will bring it inline with Orion (FG) steering setup.

I think the interior will be much more FG like as well (wouldn't be surpised if its common).
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we're doing some new parts for the Steering column which will bring it inline with Orion (FG) steering setup.
Like a forward mounted rack?
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Like a forward mounted rack?
Not sure, the main shaft and I-shaft are both shorter.
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Well, going by the spy shots I've seen, I don't think we'll be seeing any major changes.
Don't stress, it is different........
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Old 05-10-2010, 03:42 PM   #10
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Well, going by the spy shots I've seen, I don't think we'll be seeing any major changes.
I would be like what EF was to ED.
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I would be like what EF was to ED.
Yeah, pretty much what I thought. Same roofline, turret but with a different face.

Think ED Wagon to EF wagon. That'll pretty much be on the money.

Not enough to reverse the tide methinks. Stand a Terry next to a Captiva and you are looking at 100 years difference.

I know the Captiva is a newer design, but the reality is the Terry is an old design. Looked dated even when new.
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I know the Captiva is a newer design, but the reality is the Terry is an old design. Looked dated even when new.
Each to the own taste I guess.. But I'd prefer the current shape territ over the Captiva anyday!!
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Old 05-10-2010, 04:37 PM   #13
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Haven't seen anyone discussing it , but its definitely going to have a TD option as well.
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Old 05-10-2010, 04:38 PM   #14
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I would be like what EF was to ED.
Basically.

The rear will have some work done, so the EB-EF Wagon analogy isn't quite correct. The interior is having some major work done, and the exterior will bring it into line with the FG. The doors are also getting some work done to them, but that may not be sheet-metal.
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Old 05-10-2010, 05:06 PM   #15
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Territory already had a forward-mounted rack, the FG was a development of the Territory front end.
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Old 05-10-2010, 05:30 PM   #16
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Territory already had a forward-mounted rack, the FG was a development of the Territory front end.
Was about the say the same thing ... the forward mounted rack has been out since 2004 in the Territory's ... and they are a right PITA the remove/replace as well (especially when there's a front diff jammed in the way as well).
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Was about the say the same thing ... the forward mounted rack has been out since 2004 in the Territory's ... and they are a right PITA the remove/replace as well (especially when there's a front diff jammed in the way as well).
Maybe its going at the back then ?
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Old 05-10-2010, 06:26 PM   #18
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Well, going by the spy shots I've seen, I don't think we'll be seeing any major changes.
most spy shots show the old rear due to supply issues with some of the new parts at the time, well that what caradvice was saying anyway
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most spy shots show the old rear due to supply issues with some of the new parts at the time, well that what caradvice was saying anyway
It is true.

As for the front suspension and steering rack, FG took Territory's rack, and continued its development. Territory will be therefore taking Falcon's advancements and implementing them.

Don't stress people. There is a new Territory out next year. There is enough misinformation spewing out of this relatively new thread, that it is little wonder why people are getting confused.
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There are 216 posts and 8 pages on the next Territory in this thread that has month worth of gossip, some true and some made up, in it.
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Old 06-10-2010, 12:12 AM   #21
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Each to the own taste I guess.. But I'd prefer the current shape territ over the Captiva anyday!!
I agree! Personally I love the SYII I reckon it looks very classy, not old at all. Much better that those lame ( IMO ) sangsongg( how ever you spell it) shaped captivas! I'd buy a current generation Terri now if I had the money
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Haven't seen anyone discussing it , but its definitely going to have a TD option as well.
Yeah the use of the 2.7TD has been discussed at length here. Should be a ripper in that car
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IM guessing new lights and front bar, new rear lights and bar, and the plastics on the doors being changed to mimic the styling crease in the FG
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Why don't Ford fix the rust etc ??????????????????????????????
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Why don't Ford fix the rust etc ??????????????????????????????
And what makes you think they haven't??
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It is a continual topic here. If it was fixed, it wouldn't keep being raised ???
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Why don't Ford fix the rust etc ??????????????????????????????
Because then there would be hundreds of qualified panel beaters and spray painters out of work.

Really though, is rust that big of an issue with these cars?
On the AU LWB cars, they used to get rust bleed near the boot channel where the outer skin was welded to the frame, but by series 2 that was eliminated.
I'd proffer that Ford having paid claims for rust would have investigated and instituted new processes to prevent the rust from occurring.
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Because then there would be hundreds of qualified panel beaters and spray painters out of work.

Really though, is rust that big of an issue with these cars?
On the AU LWB cars, they used to get rust bleed near the boot channel where the outer skin was welded to the frame, but by series 2 that was eliminated.
I'd proffer that Ford having paid claims for rust would have investigated and instituted new processes to prevent the rust from occurring.
BA's get rust in the boot lap joint under the rear window and I've seen an FG with rust in the same spot.
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It is a continual topic here. If it was fixed, it wouldn't keep being raised ???
Well, the new model is not out yet, so again, how do you know the problem is not fixed??

You're only trying to cause trouble!!
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