QLD Health Payroll..Fight back Campaign

csv8 · 02-07-2011, 10:30 AM

I know AFF is supposed to be non-political, but this transcends normal politics.
Brief history for our southern nurses, 15 months ago QHealth introduced a very flawed payroll system.Now they are demanding over payments be paid back. Go to the QNU site for full details of this disaster.
But if our southern nurses would like like to join our fightback campaign..go to Facebook and QLD Health Payroll Fight Back Campaign and show your support.
Thank you.
Mods if you close my post..fair enough..rules are rules.

Jim Goose · 02-07-2011, 11:13 AM

Its not just the SOuth East that is affected (sorry this really annoys me as no one gives a toss about the rest of the state).
This payroll problem is affects the WHOLE of QLD Health.

I have a friend who is a nurse in Townsville and who hasnt received NOT ONE PAY SLIP since she started there 6months ago. This is despite constant phone calls and emails to payroll to find out where her payslips are.

Funny how she gets a letter saying she must payback $3000... yet they cant send her one payslip to her correct home address.
She told me one nurse she works with has been sent a letter saying she must pay back over $10 000.

Is disgusting the way our Hospital staff are treated, yet no one seems to care. The abuse and violence they put up with by ignorant/ rude and drugged up patients is pathetic, yet they dont get paid correctly and are expected to give their heart and soul into a thankless job?

csv8 · 02-07-2011, 11:51 AM

Sorry, what I meant was NSW, Victorian etc nurses to join the Facebook campaign. I know its the whole State and not just nurses but all QHealth employees...Its a monumental disaster and no Minister will take Ministerial responsiblity and resign..any of us did this kind of stuff up, and we would be sacked no questions asked...A Royal Commission or a Class Action is needed..its that bad...

Jim Goose · 02-07-2011, 11:58 AM

Just look at how the previous Ministers involved in the debarcle responded to questions about the new computer program they bought...

"All the boxes were ticked"....

Defence has the exact same problem with its new program which started last year. Over $600million for a computer program and it still doesnt work properly.

Tax Dept also received a new program a few yrs ago and it also didnt work as advertised and cost several hundred million to buy... and several more to fix.

Yet NO ONE ever gets sacked or goes to court.

Gaz · 03-07-2011, 05:12 PM

Heads should roll for the implementation for sure, however it never seems to happen.

I don't see what the fuss is with demanding over payments back. That money has come from the taxpayer and I would be wanting it back too. They are writing off small amounts but if you have suddenly earned an extra 10k p/a you know something is wrong and expect to get asked for it back.

monte.b · 03-07-2011, 07:10 PM

one nurse was underpaid ,30k ,then they sent 14 of it to the tax dept to pay a hex debt that she didnt owe ,the whole computer system is a disaster and should be scrapped ,no doubt it was set up by some of gove mates

MYVYSS · 03-07-2011, 10:34 PM

OK I shall bite into this discussion..

The problem stems from the lack of testing that was for the new payroll system in QLD. The SAP system that was put in place was effectively implemented and signed off by QLD Health with less than .05% actually tested. It is not the implementation partners or SAP's fault at all. It was in fact delivered exactly to specifications provided by QLD Health.

For everyone complaining and setting up facebook groups...You are PATHETIC...You have taken money you have not EARNT, you have spent or pocketed something that was made in ERROR and never meant for you. YOU knew exactly how much you should/would receive and yet when there is XXX thousands of dollars too much you either banked it or spent it on stuff, you did not earn it, you KNEW you were NOT entitiled to it...... YOU are a THIEF!!!!..

You complain about not seeing a payslip... at least the money is in your accounts. You know as a (insert level of paygrade here) that if you worked a standard fortnight at lets say 20 bucks an hour then 80 times that would be 1600 bucks give or take a small allowance and or tax when between 3 and say 5 grand is deposited, seriously YOU KNOW that you have been overpaid yet you now jump up and down demanding to keep money that is not lawfully yours.... and run to the union to complain.... You are weak you are pathetic and I honestly think that you should lose your jobs. I guarantee you that if you were short 50 bucks, you would be on the phone quicker than anyone DEMANDING that it be paid into your account within 3 nano seconds......

Why are they having to spend millions on consultants to fix the issue, Why did they have to spend millions on Security for the payroll teams.... because you are rabid dogs, that have less than a clue when it comes to understanding the complexity of running a large scale payroll system.

They are spending more and more because of these reasons YOU cannot be trusted to do the right bloody thing if something goes wrong..... They know that given the chance you will STEAL 50 cents and or 50 thousand dollars....

All I will say is its so sad that given the increases in the cost of living, and given that the extra funding that could be available, you leeches continue to suck extra money out of the health care system by claiming monies that do not belong to you.... You keep blaming the government for the mess up....sure its not perfect and sure it has cost a heap of dollars to fix.....but maybe a bigger piece of pie is being lost in theft or monies that some are not entitled to... its so sad that you choose to bite the exact hand that feeds you.

I think a more appropriate Facebook page would be...

"Why dont the Qld Health System SACK the dishonest B@stards that have stolen money from them"

If you are walking down the street and find 50000 dollars and pocket it, and are caught at a later date...You realise there is a charge of Theft by finding..... Thats exactly what all of these scumbags should be charged with...

Disclaimer : I am not talking about those that have a small over payment...But when you are talking between 5 and 20 grand.....innocence was lost long ago...

YES I work in Payroll, Yes I work with SAP and NO I have had nothing to do with the Implementation for Queensland Health. But I have read the Auditor Generals report into the mess.

Cheers

Adamz Ghia · 03-07-2011, 11:38 PM

Stronger than I would have worded it, but agreed. People would have noticed the extra cash and said nothing, theft, pure and simple.

cheap · 04-07-2011, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MYVYSS

OK I shall bite into this discussion..

The problem stems from the lack of testing that was for the new payroll system in QLD. The SAP system that was put in place was effectively implemented and signed off by QLD Health with less than .05% actually tested. It is not the implementation partners or SAP's fault at all. It was in fact delivered exactly to specifications provided by QLD Health.

For everyone complaining and setting up facebook groups...You are PATHETIC...You have taken money you have not EARNT, you have spent or pocketed something that was made in ERROR and never meant for you. YOU knew exactly how much you should/would receive and yet when there is XXX thousands of dollars too much you either banked it or spent it on stuff, you did not earn it, you KNEW you were NOT entitiled to it...... YOU are a THIEF!!!!..

You complain about not seeing a payslip... at least the money is in your accounts. You know as a (insert level of paygrade here) that if you worked a standard fortnight at lets say 20 bucks an hour then 80 times that would be 1600 bucks give or take a small allowance and or tax when between 3 and say 5 grand is deposited, seriously YOU KNOW that you have been overpaid yet you now jump up and down demanding to keep money that is not lawfully yours.... and run to the union to complain.... You are weak you are pathetic and I honestly think that you should lose your jobs. I guarantee you that if you were short 50 bucks, you would be on the phone quicker than anyone DEMANDING that it be paid into your account within 3 nano seconds......

Why are they having to spend millions on consultants to fix the issue, Why did they have to spend millions on Security for the payroll teams.... because you are rabid dogs, that have less than a clue when it comes to understanding the complexity of running a large scale payroll system.

They are spending more and more because of these reasons YOU cannot be trusted to do the right bloody thing if something goes wrong..... They know that given the chance you will STEAL 50 cents and or 50 thousand dollars....

All I will say is its so sad that given the increases in the cost of living, and given that the extra funding that could be available, you leeches continue to suck extra money out of the health care system by claiming monies that do not belong to you.... You keep blaming the government for the mess up....sure its not perfect and sure it has cost a heap of dollars to fix.....but maybe a bigger piece of pie is being lost in theft or monies that some are not entitled to... its so sad that you choose to bite the exact hand that feeds you.

I think a more appropriate Facebook page would be...

"Why dont the Qld Health System SACK the dishonest B@stards that have stolen money from them"

If you are walking down the street and find 50000 dollars and pocket it, and are caught at a later date...You realise there is a charge of Theft by finding..... Thats exactly what all of these scumbags should be charged with...

Disclaimer : I am not talking about those that have a small over payment...But when you are talking between 5 and 20 grand.....innocence was lost long ago...

YES I work in Payroll, Yes I work with SAP and NO I have had nothing to do with the Implementation for Queensland Health. But I have read the Auditor Generals report into the mess.

Cheers

And of course you know with total certainty that everyone overpaid has not made an attempt to pay the overpayment back - don't you?

And of course you're fully aware of all the awards, shift loadings and other bizarre complexities of Qld Health that make running this payroll system as simple as falling out of bed - don't you?

And of course you know with total certainty that given the turmoil that did (and still currently exists) with the Qld Health pay system - the caught thieves have had their illicit gains accepted and properly recorded in the fully functioning and omnipotent Qld Health payroll system - don't you?

And of course, if it turns out that 98% of the Qld Health staff (what were some of your words "scumbags, thieves and so on") were overpaid , I'm sure the authorities will take your advice and "sack them all", I sure hope the patients quickly learn to self medicate - don't you?

Here are a couple of suggestions, why don't you tone down you expert opinion, go back to reading the auditors report and let the Qld Health payroll people (if they can) sort their way through this fine mess. Or, feel free to telephone Qld Health and offer you expert services/assistance in cleaning the mess.

Have you ever considered a change of career as a radio shock jock or left wing politics?

And yes I have worked for Qld Health and the system is "hopeless" and despite this, there are thousands of people "scumbags and thieves as you say" who work tirelessly and save lives, perhaps they'll save your life one day (maybe not).

MYVYSS · 04-07-2011, 08:57 AM

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