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In an attempt to avoid the same threads coming up weekly, here's a few tips/answers/comments about the AU V8 range.
Q: How do I tell if my XR8 is a 200 or 220kw model? A: There is only one 100% foolproof way to do it, and that is to call ford with your vin and verify it. The number is 13FORD. The other ways are looking for the following features: * "220" Badge on rear bootlid * Tickford wings engraved into throttle body * Colour Coded Exterior Mirror Scalps As a general rule, 220kw motors were introduced into AU XR's from April 2001. This means late Series II models, and all Series III models got the 220kw donk. NOTE: This does NOT apply to XR8 Utes, where the maximum engine power available from factory was 200kw. No ute ever had the 220kw engine factory fitted. Again the April 2001 date is correct to identify your ute and determine whether it is a 185 or 200kw version, the 185kw utes also have a spacer between the throttlebody and the intake manifold. If your ute has the spacer there, it's a 185kW spec engine. If it doesnt, you've likely got a 200kw motor. Q: How much power does my XR8 have? Its a Series I. Power Outputs for the entire AU XR range were as follows: (from factory) AU Series I, Sedan and Ute: 185kw AU Series I, NON XR Sedan and Ute: 175kW AU Series II, Sedan: 200kw (late April onwards 220kw) AU Series II, Ute: 185kw (after introduction of Pursuit model, 200kw) AU Series II, NON XR Sedan and Ute: 175kW AU Series III, Sedan: 220kw AU Series III, Ute: 200kw AU Series III, NON XR Sedan and Ute: 175kW The exception to this is that the AUII onwards V8 LTD models did have 185kw, with the difference being made up primarily from a twin system exhaust fitted to that model. Q: What model got the 5.6L stroker engine? This engine went into Series III AU models known as T-Series. There were 4 models - TE50, TS50, TL50 and a ute model known as the Pursuit250 (although this was technically just an XR8 with a bigger engine). These models can be identified by their bodykits, bigger engines, 18" alloy wheels, brembo or tickford premium brakes (both were available), and in the case of the sedans, a build plate in the engine bay stating the model name and number (Utes did not get this). More info on the T-Series range can be found in the T-Series Room HERE Q: What's the difference between a "Pursuit" Ute, and the rest of the range? This is where it gets tricky. Ford released a model called the "Pursuit", which was an XR8 Ute (XR6 VCT utes were also available), with MOMO gear such as steering wheel and shifter, leather trim, Tickford Bodykit and Sports Bars on the back all included for an extra $1k. (The XR8 versions also had a 200kw motor as opposed to the 185kw regular offering, but after the introduction of Pursuit Utes the 200kw motor became the standard offering in all XR8 Utes). These were known and badged as Pursuit Utes, and are not to be confused with the Pursuit250 as described above. Q: I own a V8 AU but its not an XR. How much power does it make, and what is different on the engine compared to a XR model? For all non-XR V8 models the power remained at 175kw in all series except the AUII LTD as mentioned above. These engines have the same heads as the 200kw-spec motors (these heads are known as GT40Ps), same intake manifold (5.6L stroker has a specific manifold though, this is the only exception), but a smaller (65mm) throttle body and MAF sensor. Exhaust systems, particularly exhaust manifolds, also differed in design and were not as high-flowing as the XR types although the LTD models as mentioned got a twin exhaust system as standard. Q: My car has a Herrod/SVO badge on it. What does this mean? It means at some point the car has been worked on by an aftermarket company. Herrod and SVO are two of the biggest, and both did a lot of work on AU's. If you have the badges, best to call them and see what has been done. Q: Can the V8's in AU models be modified and if so what can I do to it? In a nutshell, yes they can be modified and you have a wealth of options seeing as the Windsor V8 has been in service for decades. Cylinder Heads, Cams, Manifolds and even Stroker Kits are all relatively easy modifications but they do require a bit of careful planning and a budget to work with. Exhaust systems and intakes are often the first mods that AU Windsor owners carry out and there's a wealth of info in these forums as well as the 'Workshop Builds' section. Also check out the Windsor V8 Forum HERE to see what other owners have done, and to get advice on what cam will be best for your car.
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Non XR V8s had 175kw engines.
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all other non XR models were 175kw. http://www.drive.com.au/buy/market_v...&body=4D+SEDAN |
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Ya i remenber V8 was a 175kw. a good write now i just need to get a V8 to compared it lol...unless... i'll have to use my house mate V8 lol.
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With the 200kw motor, the Left cylinder head will have '200' stamped on it.
As Austin has said, the easiest way to check is to call Ford. The t/b and badges can be put onto any car. Also the 220kw motor got an engine oil cooler and runs the smaller oil filter, as where the 200kw motor doesnt have the cooler and runs the standard Ford oil filter. |
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While we're picking, the XR8 utes on 200kw guise would have had the EGR spacer as well - all 200kw motors did. The 220 is the only one with a single solid TB/EGR setup.
Austin - as a moderator, can't you go back and edit your original post? I think it's worth doing because anyone that reads it will go, "Oh, OK, so that's the story", only to read further down and find all the corrections, which then makes people question the correctness of any info posted in a "one stop Q & A" type thread. I'd correct it with the right info, delete the below corrections, then close it so it's a one post thread (oh, and sticky it)!
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We'll get the right info going, then I'll re-write the lot and get rid of this thread, and sticky one up. After that I'll have a go at doing the 6 cyl models.
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i was just looking at this old thread, I just got a 11/01 xr8 ute, thimking it had the spacer it was a 185kw, but reading this it coild be a 200kw. I havent called ford yet, but is it possiable it is 200kw Thanks |
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All XR8 Utes from April 2001 had the 200kw engine as standard.
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Another way to tell if it is a 220kw is the 220s have an engine oil cooler mounted behind the grill.
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My utes a series 2 Au xr8. Hand built 200kw, not 185 ;)
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This thread should be a sticky.
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I've stuck this one and made a few edits but any more info that we can come up with will be added provided it's correct.
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i dunno if u wanna add this, but i had the issue with the wrong filter first time i went to service my 220. I did have the other brand part numbers but cant find them atm.
the K&N part# HP-2004 also this is the dimensions and stuff straight from their website. Height: 4.1 in (104 mm) Outside Diameter: 3.66 in (93 mm) Thread Inside Diameter: 0.75 Thread Number: 16 UNF-2B PSI Relief Valve: 8-11 Anti Drain Back Valve: Yes
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200 spec V8's take a Ryco Z9/Valvoline V01
220 spec take a Ryco Z89
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So the 220 au2 xr8 sedans didnt necessarily have the 220 insignia on the engine cover....?
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4.0 157kW inline 6 4.0 142kW inline 6 (LPG/DLPG) 5.0 175kW V8. The 5.0 V8 was a $3327 option on the AU III Forte. There was no option available to add the 185/200/220/250 V8's to a Forte. Hand built Tickford V8's had the engine builders signature applied to the drivers side rocker cover. IRS was not mandatory with the V8 engine, it was however a $1135 option available on Forte sedan, Futura sedan and Fairmont sedan. An LSD was a $350 option on Forte, Futura and XR6 HP. Get the seller to send a pic of the throttle body, there will be a Tickford logo on it if it has a "Tickford engine in it".
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Thanks for that, will do..
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The Tickford modified heads that were on 220 and 250KW engines had this T Stamp on the vertical surface just under the rocker covers: ![]() These had larger valves than the 175/185/200kw versions. Hope that helps Stu
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