Can you pass the NAPLAN test?

Syndrome · 11-05-2015, 10:28 PM

http://www.news.com.au/national/napl...-1227350034105

22 from 24. One I clearly got wrong, one I made a simple mistake.

Trump · 11-05-2015, 10:44 PM

24/24.

That was a cakewalk. Are kids so dumb these days that they would struggle with such a test?

Syndrome · 11-05-2015, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

24/24.

That was a cakewalk. Are kids so dumb these days that they would struggle with such a test?

sup wif u? kids r to smrt four skool dees dayz.

chrisandsharon · 11-05-2015, 11:04 PM

....ah - the one who always finished his tests/exams first immediately followed by the slamming down of the mighty pen to sound victory over all around him.........pin a medal on your chest

Smoke Pursuit · 12-05-2015, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

24/24.

That was a cakewalk. Are kids so dumb these days that they would struggle with such a test?

Are you serious??

We are talking predominantly grade 3 and 5 questions on that test, and you think you did well because you got 24/24?

JC · 12-05-2015, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

Are you serious??

We are talking predominantly grade 3 and 5 questions on that test, and you think you did well because you got 24/24?

Unfortunately, not everyone can get 24, but those that can't have skills elsewhere that help make our society what it is....a mix of abilities, skills, and intelligence.

Smoke Pursuit · 12-05-2015, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JC

Unfortunately, not everyone can get 24, but those that can't have skills elsewhere that help make our society what it is....a mix of abilities, skills, and intelligence.

I was more questioning why he thought it was so easy given that it was set for grade 3 / 5'ers and that kids must be dumb if they struggle with such test.

Trump · 12-05-2015, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

Are you serious??

We are talking predominantly grade 3 and 5 questions on that test, and you think you did well because you got 24/24?

Quite. The missus is a teacher (grade 3) and the stuff that is considered year 7 level was being taught to grade 3 kids not that long ago. To her and her colleagues frustration, the standards keep dropping every year. It is why I said what I said.

Oh and it is a rare teacher indeed that likes NAPLAN.

uniacidz · 11-05-2015, 10:59 PM

24/24

Woohoooo

Yellow_Festiva · 11-05-2015, 11:03 PM

Yep... supervising my yr7 class tomorrow morning ;-)

**data_mine** · 11-05-2015, 11:09 PM

24/24

I don't know about primary school children (no contact with them really), but I see more and more uni grads that can't spell or construct a sentence, and can't do basic math - even with a calculator.

2011G6E · 12-05-2015, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by data_mine

24/24

I don't know about primary school children (no contact with them really), but I see more and more uni grads that can't spell or construct a sentence, and can't do basic math - even with a calculator.

You wouldn't believe how often I hear this. Universities too have (quietly) bemoaned the fact that a lot of people coming there can't spell and have no sense of basic grammar...even those who want to become teachers themselves...

Far too many kids...more accurately parents of kids...think all that stuff and hard book learnin' is old fashioned and not needed these days. We see more and more stories about kids taken out of school to go on family holidays (not during school holidays, just any old time), and parents claiming kids learn more from "life skills" whole away from school than at actual school.

That's OK...I pay plenty of taxes so your kids will be safe claiming the dole when they leave school if that's how you think the world works.

As the old saying goes..."If you think your teachers were hard on you, wait until you have a boss..."
Although...to be blunt...some kids will never have to worry much about that....

Trek · 13-05-2015, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011G6E

You wouldn't believe how often I hear this. Universities too have (quietly) bemoaned the fact that a lot of people coming there can't spell and have no sense of basic grammar...even those who want to become teachers themselves...

As the old saying goes..."If you think your teachers were hard on you, wait until you have a boss..."

As someone who happens to be a University student studying teaching, I can definitely tell you that in my cohort, those who cannot spell and have poor grammar are the minority.

There also appears to be some disparity between the expectations that is AusVELS and what is assessed in NAPLAN. I've spoken to many proficient, highly accomplished and leader teachers already and they all agree that it is not truly indicative measurement of students in relation to what is taught. Furthermore, it serves as a distraction to the flow of teaching itself and acts as a deterrent to the desire of students to learn. While NAPLAN holds great implications for schools that reap flattering results, it is not without its issues.

Lastly, bosses are fun to drive

Work Horse · 13-05-2015, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Trek

As someone who happens to be a University student studying teaching, I can definitely tell you that in my cohort, those who cannot spell and have poor grammar are the minority.

There also appears to be some disparity between the expectations that is AusVELS and what is assessed in NAPLAN. I've spoken to many proficient, highly accomplished and leader teachers already and they all agree that it is not truly indicative measurement of students in relation to what is taught. Furthermore, it serves as a distraction to the flow of teaching itself and acts as a deterrent to the desire of students to learn. While NAPLAN holds great implications for schools that reap flattering results, it is not without its issues.

Lastly, bosses are fun to drive

Just wait until politicians work out there are votes in linking Naplan results to what teachers are paid....

Trek · 13-05-2015, 12:18 PM

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Just wait until politicians work out there are votes in linking Naplan results to what teachers are paid....

A very lazy comment by you here. There would be strong opposition to such a thing and this also highlights yet again why politicians are too heavily involved in the decision making surrounding education already as is. I'll let you figure out why such an idea would fail if implemented...

Franco Cozzo · 12-05-2015, 01:08 AM

17/24

I'm real bad with maths unless I have a calculator, last one of these NAPLAN tests (2006) I think, I was 4 or 5 years below what I should be and the last literacy and numeracy tests I did (this year) I was still behind the same so I haven't really improved.

I got myself a CAS calculator in Year 11, it can solve algebraic expressions, it got me through year 11 physics and year 11/12 maths.

I don't do numbers, I do words

TheSneakiness · 12-05-2015, 08:22 AM

22/24

Got the math inequality wrong (****in hated maths) and the last one with the punctuation.

Can I ask is NAPLAN a direct relation to the child's education or is it a push by the schools to say yes we are this good and has no bearing on what the child knows?

I overheard a parent this morning saying you'll be fine sweetheart to her year 3 child this morning and it made me think of above.

Yellow_Festiva · 12-05-2015, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapid_Axe

Can I ask is NAPLAN a direct relation to the child's education or is it a push by the schools to say yes we are this good and has no bearing on what the child knows?

I overheard a parent this morning saying you'll be fine sweetheart to her year 3 child this morning and it made me think of above.

Bit of both really. Results are used in a variety of ways which may include rankings of schools and where there needs greater support (ie more funding).

Questions are based on syllabus documents which all schools should be using as the basis of their teaching program.

TheSneakiness · 12-05-2015, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

Bit of both really. Results are used in a variety of ways which may include rankings of schools and where there needs greater support (ie more funding).

Questions are based on syllabus documents which all schools should be using as the basis of their teaching program.

Thanks for that.

LG17 · 12-05-2015, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapid_Axe

22/24

Got the math inequality wrong (****in hated maths) and the last one with the punctuation.

Can I ask is NAPLAN a direct relation to the child's education or is it a push by the schools to say yes we are this good and has no bearing on what the child knows?

I overheard a parent this morning saying you'll be fine sweetheart to her year 3 child this morning and it made me think of above.

Naplan is one of the biggest frauds perpetrated on our education system for the way the powers that be utilise it. There's nothing wrong as such with a standardised test at a given point in time though.