About to buy a new V8 manual Mustang.

Outbackjack · 28-09-2017, 08:33 PM

I have been trawling through the carsales web sights. There are plenty to choose from these days. Lots with less than 5k on them. Can anyone tell me why there are so many low kilo vehicles out there. Are they x demo cars? Ex executive cars? I'm talking cars from dealers here. Any info greatly appreciated.

qdda5 · 28-09-2017, 08:38 PM

Coz the original owners found out they have a 2 star ancap rating and got rid of them .

Outbackjack · 28-09-2017, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by qdda5

Coz the original owners found out they have a 2 star ancap rating and got rid of them .

Really? I heard something about the safety rating but didn't take a lot of notice. I'll get one regardless of the safety rating.

qdda5 · 28-09-2017, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Outbackjack

Really? I heard something about the safety rating but didn't take a lot of notice. I'll get one regardless of the safety rating.

Long as you dont get T Boned by a daihatsu Charade you will be fine lol.

Ben73 · 28-09-2017, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by qdda5

Coz the original owners found out they have a 2 star ancap rating and got rid of them .

Why because it doesn't have auto braking and blind spot monitoring and all the other passive safety things?
Oh and not great for backseat passengers. Who buys a Mustang to carry more than 1 person around.

**GO FURTHER** · 28-09-2017, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by qdda5

Coz the original owners found out they have a 2 star ancap rating and got rid of them .

I doubt that any Mustang produced in it's 52 year history would ever have had more than 2 stars if they were rated by today's standards.

Yet that has not stopped the Mustang becoming the best-selling sports car of all time.

Lunch · 29-09-2017, 06:17 AM

what was 1 of the Mustangs most appealing traits was you only saw maybe 1 on the road per month and only on a weekend, since the release of the new 1, I honestly see at least 8 everyday and I'm only on the road for 40 mins, don't get me wrong they're a great looking car but I've seen less turbo Falcons lately than I've seen mustangs, you want something quick and rare, buy a Sprint 8, seen maybe 1 of those in the past 4 months

Lunch · 29-09-2017, 06:42 AM

Although if I had to, I could quite easily park this 1 in my garage

Currently for sale on carsales
( sorry about the size )

roKWiz · 29-09-2017, 06:54 AM

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what was 1 of the Mustangs most appealing traits was you only saw maybe 1 on the road per month and only on a weekend, since the release of the new 1,

Ford's flooded the market with these things along with the Ranger.
I wonder how many are for sale around the Hunter Valley with all the mine job losses ?

qdda5 · 29-09-2017, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by GO FURTHER

I doubt that any Mustang produced in it's 52 year history would ever have had more than 2 stars if they were rated by today's standards.

Yet that has not stopped the Mustang becoming the best-selling sports car of all time.

So your saying in 52 years they havent learnt how to make the current Mustang a safer car on the road.?
Pretty poor effort really. Which is another factor as to the flood if them on the market no doubt.

ozrunner · 29-09-2017, 10:57 AM

Give it a rest mate. It's well known the Stang was tested on new criteria and would have been a 4/5 if tested against the same criteria as most other makes were such as the Falcon.

The Stang lost out on issues such as not having such things as lane departure warning yet nor did any Falcon but it got higher due to different criteria, which the Stang should also have been tested against.

But IMHO many current safety inclusions are BS gimmicks. If you need your dash to buzz to advise you're drifting into another lane then maybe you should really be considering handing in your licence.

GTLEGEND · 29-09-2017, 11:23 AM

I think many people who ordered originally did not think they would be as popular and thought the numbers coming in would not be so high, so they bought one trying to make a quick buck, borrowed money to do so, but now because there are so many, their plan backfired, have to sell as they cannot afford the loan when they have not made quick cash over night.

Once you drive one of these, the 2 star rating quickly vanishes into thin air as you drive with the biggest smile you have had from a car in a long time!! If you like to drive something a little special and fun, don't wait just buy it, if not hold on a buy an autonomous vehicle (boring) and let the car drive you or buy a Camry lol

I may be wrong but the Mustang is one of the only two door cars tested, if you look at the ANCAP site, Porsche does not even get a mention.

Joe5619 · 29-09-2017, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ozrunner

Give it a rest mate. It's well known the Stang was tested on new criteria and would have been a 4/5 if tested against the same criteria as most other makes were such as the Falcon.

The Stang lost out on issues such as not having such things as lane departure warning yet nor did any Falcon but it got higher due to different criteria, which the Stang should also have been tested against.

But IMHO many current safety inclusions are BS gimmicks. If you need your dash to buzz to advise you're drifting into another lane then maybe you should really be considering handing in your licence.

l guess airbags deploying incorrectly, doors opening, poor rear seat ratings (yes there is 4 seats so people can & do sit there) are just gimmick? Why people defend this rating is beyond me.. Cars using the current system are getting 5 stars, 2 stars is a joke.. Its the #1 reason lm waiting for the next all new Mustang before l buy one.

qdda5 · 29-09-2017, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ozrunner

Give it a rest mate. It's well known the Stang was tested on new criteria and would have been a 4/5 if tested against the same criteria as most other makes were such as the Falcon.

The Stang lost out on issues such as not having such things as lane departure warning yet nor did any Falcon but it got higher due to different criteria, which the Stang should also have been tested against.

But IMHO many current safety inclusions are BS gimmicks. If you need your dash to buzz to advise you're drifting into another lane then maybe you should really be considering handing in your licence.

Its still 2 star?. Seriously. Give it a rest ... .lol

ivorya · 30-09-2017, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by qdda5

Coz the original owners found out they have a 2 star ancap rating and got rid of them .

So a car manufactured under 2014-2015 design regulations and safety standards fails/ obtains a 2 star rating using the new European 2018 standards?

I must be missing something here!!!

Is there any manufacturer willing to put their vehicle under this same tests 4 yrs on? Didn't think so!!

**solarite_guy** · 30-09-2017, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ivorya

So a car manufactured under 2014-2015 design regulations and safety standards fails/ obtains a 2 star rating using the new European 2018 standards?

I must be missing something here!!!

Is there any manufacturer willing to put their vehicle under this same tests 4 yrs on? Didn't think so!!

In the US lane change avoidance and self braking play no roll in the safety tests, as of now. In Australia, it appears these items are heavily weighted in the testing.

The US testing considers several different collision tests and a roll over. Both the Mustang and Camaro received mostly "GOOD" ratings (highest rating) and 1 "ACCEPTABLE" rating (mid rating).

However for the 2017 model year the Mustang does not have lane change avoidance or self braking. I don't know about the Camaro yet.

The 2018 Mustang will have both of these features.

PooDog · 01-10-2017, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by solarite_guy

In the US lane change avoidance and self braking play no roll in the safety tests, as of now. In Australia, it appears these items are heavily weighted in the testing.

The US testing considers several different collision tests and a roll over. Both the Mustang and Camaro received mostly "GOOD" ratings (highest rating) and 1 "ACCEPTABLE" rating (mid rating).

However for the 2017 model year the Mustang does not have lane change avoidance or self braking. I don't know about the Camaro yet.

The 2018 Mustang will have both of these features.

So snap up the 2017,s so you can continue to DRIVE! .....rather than steer some gimmick ridden thing with alarms constantly chirping away at you, and be proud that you still have the ability to operate a mustang in the way it was designed to be

Vesper Martini · 02-10-2017, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by qdda5

Coz the original owners found out they have a 2 star ancap rating and got rid of them .

You do realise your G6E would only get 2 stars too if it had todays testing.

qdda5 · 02-10-2017, 05:28 PM

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You do realise your G6E would only get 2 stars too if it had todays testing.

Havent had that car for years.lol. Just havent updated photo.
You base that on what data?

**DFB FGXR6** · 02-10-2017, 06:08 PM

One thing I question about the rear seat aspect that contributed to the poor safety rating for the Mustang is how many people fold up their children an stuff them in what is effectively the boot of a 7 seat SUV? In rear end collision that puts the occupant of those 3rd row seats far closer to the impact than the back seat of a Mustang, seats that will rarely ever be used. Dose ANCAP assess and score the 6th and 7th seats of SUV's?

**Fordman1** · 02-10-2017, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

One thing I question about the rear seat aspect that contributed to the poor safety rating for the Mustang is how many people fold up their children an stuff them in what is effectively the boot of a 7 seat SUV? In rear end collision that puts the occupant of those 3rd row seats far closer to the impact than the back seat of a Mustang, seats that will rarely ever be used. Dose ANCAP assess and score the 6th and 7th seats of SUV's?

Nope.

They didn't test one of the latest Chinese SUV's (was it HAVAL ?) to the latest standards either - because the manufacturers didn't want that.

Go figure, they got 5 stars to the old rating

PooDog · 02-10-2017, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

One thing I question about the rear seat aspect that contributed to the poor safety rating for the Mustang is how many people fold up their children an stuff them in what is effectively the boot of a 7 seat SUV? In rear end collision that puts the occupant of those 3rd row seats far closer to the impact than the back seat of a Mustang, seats that will rarely ever be used. Dose ANCAP assess and score the 6th and 7th seats of SUV's?

Good points , also wonder how the ride height cornering stability and weight centre of gravity is with 7 people on board is and how it can be so much safer than a Mustang

4stanger · 05-10-2017, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

One thing I question about the rear seat aspect that contributed to the poor safety rating for the Mustang is how many people fold up their children an stuff them in what is effectively the boot of a 7 seat SUV? In rear end collision that puts the occupant of those 3rd row seats far closer to the impact than the back seat of a Mustang, seats that will rarely ever be used. Dose ANCAP assess and score the 6th and 7th seats of SUV's?

Agreed, there would definitely a lot more people and especially children, ride in the "3rd row" seating of these SUVs, than the amount that ride in the back seat of the Mustang.

So how come in the interest of public safety, there is no headlines or specific crash testing of these areas of seating, of these types of vehicles?

Its nice to know that there are some members that come on to this forum to remind us of the safety rating (not crash rating) of the Mustangs, but they are only doing half a job, like mentioned above, there are more passengers out there at risk in other makes of vehicles, why aren't they warning them?

**Fordman1** · 02-10-2017, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by qdda5

Havent had that car for years.lol. Just havent updated photo.
You base that on what data?

No crash avoidance technology

roddy1960 · 06-10-2017, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fordman1

No crash avoidance technology

Yep , wouldn't it be odd if the driver had to actually use his eyes and common sense. Perish the thought...

Vesper Martini · 03-10-2017, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by qdda5

Havent had that car for years.lol. Just havent updated photo.
You base that on what data?

I shouldn't need to explain... but look at the points where the Mustang failed and see if the G6E would pass.

So what car are you driving now? would it pass the same test the Mustang was subjected to?

Point being the Ancap rating is a Guide, it advances as safety technology does.

I drive a Territory with a 5 star rating, but that test was done in 2014.
As DFB FGXR6 mentions if they start looking at 3rd Rows more closely it would probably fail miserably.

qdda5 · 05-10-2017, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bevsta007

I shouldn't need to explain... but look at the points where the Mustang failed and see if the G6E would pass.

So what car are you driving now? would it pass the same test the Mustang was subjected to?

Point being the Ancap rating is a Guide, it advances as safety technology does.

I drive a Territory with a 5 star rating, but that test was done in 2014.
As DFB FGXR6 mentions if they start looking at 3rd Rows more closely it would probably fail miserably.

I shouldnt need to explain??. Well if you cant support you comment why comment at all.
At the end of the day the Mustang rated a 2 star. Thats it.
I dont really care as i wont be buying one.
My drive is an Audi SQ5 btw. Now THATS car. Lol

bungarra · 28-09-2017, 09:20 PM

A friend who works for a used car dealer has said, a lot of the low KM vehicles in WA are due to the FIFO's losing their jobs and had the cars ordered and many paid for before they lost their jobs and also some have had the cheese and kisses tell them it is not suited to their situation. Apparently a lot of guys with kids bought them and found you can barely fit older kids in the back.

anto · 28-09-2017, 10:21 PM

I bought my red manual gt with 5000 km on it from bayford in vic and saved over 10k. Later found that chaz mostert was the original owner listed in the owners manual....go figure.
At least I know it was run in properly.
A lot have lowkms on them , my theory is a lot of people impulse bought them. They're quite a firm bumpy ride, maybe too much for some people. Not the most practical car.

BPXR6T · 29-09-2017, 11:18 AM

I've been wondering the same. Talked to the local dealer service manager the other day whilst getting some stuff sorted on my ranger. I mentioned I was getting a mustang in the next six months. I was surprised when he tried talking me out of it, he really stressed that I drive one before buying. He hates the manual especially and said he hates the long bonnet and blind spots. So I went and had a chat to the sales guy and he reckons they can't sell them. They've had two sitting there for months and have recently dropped another $5K off and were thinking of dropping them further.

I'm not deterred. Work sent me to hawaii a couple of years back and stuck me in a mustang for a week, previous model. I loved the thing. I've been wanting one since. I plan on picking up one of the last 2017 when the new model is released. I wonder if they're not the most practical car. People buy them and use them as a daily and get the ****s putting the golf clubs, kids, or shopping in the back. Those long doors in skinny car parks might be a problem too. For me its a toy to replace my porsche. It can't be any less practical than a porsche surely.