The Stance

EFFalcon · 16-10-2005, 09:14 PM

At the recent cruise i'm sure you heard about the stupid behaviour from a few members, due to this reason, multiple members have been given formal warnings that will be followed up if they offend again.

and more importantly 2 members have been suspended from the forums all together.
DUMPT has been removed from a week for inciting burnouts at albert park, repeat offences on cruises will involve reports to police and immediate permanent ban from the forums.

dbaudio has been removed from the forums for good, after receiving a warning on the last cruise he has now been removed for good.

I hope from this other members can see we are taking a tough stance on these issues and any future problems will be dealt with in a similar or harsher manner.

Number plates of offenders will be recorded from now on and passed onto police.

I have found it necessary to name names as to show the seriousness.

svo347 · 16-10-2005, 09:17 PM

Fair enough too mate..

fairmont1998 · 16-10-2005, 09:33 PM

Good call.
I go to a cruise to see other members cars, meet up with mates, talk cars and enjoy a drive with a group of like cars. Speeding, burnouts and general stupid behaiviour ruin the atmosphere and tarnish the club for everyone.

Jason[98.EL] · 16-10-2005, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by fairmont1998

Good call.
I go to a cruise to see other members cars, meet up with mates, talk cars and enjoy a drive with a group of like cars. Speeding, burnouts and general stupid behaiviour ruin the atmosphere and tarnish the club for everyone.

im in the same boat i was thinking about taking my family to the great ocean road cruise ( yep wife daughter 4 yrs son 12 months )

but i dont know if i want to let my kids see the crap that went down on fri night

Dezza · 16-10-2005, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by heljas

im in the same boat i was thinking about taking my family to the great ocean road cruise ( yep wife daughter 4 yrs son 12 months )

but i dont know if i want to let my kids see the crap that went down on fri night

I've been on a couple of Sunday (not just e-series) cruises, and in both instances, all the people were generally very well behaved. Nothing like the e-series Friday night cruises. I'm guessing people will probably be well behaved on the great ocean road cruise.

AdzT3-146 · 16-10-2005, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ea_silver_ghia

. Nothing like the e-series Friday night cruises. I'm guessing people will probably be well behaved on the great ocean road cruise.

up until last friday behaviour was fantastic on the previous 2 friday night cruises as far as i'm concerned

Jason[98.EL] · 16-10-2005, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ef_classic

up until last friday behaviour was fantastic on the previous 2 friday night cruises as far as i'm concerned

yup thats what i was thinking

so what made this one so different

Dezza · 17-10-2005, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ef_classic

up until last friday behaviour was fantastic on the previous 2 friday night cruises as far as i'm concerned

Yeah, come to think of it, the previous one was pretty good.

CruizinEB · 16-10-2005, 09:41 PM

very good call,that doesn't help the club one bit

Damo · 16-10-2005, 09:45 PM

Sounds fair. Unfornunately giving numberplates to the police won't do squat except deter people from the meets, which I guess is a good thing if they're playing up. A Gold coin donation for maps would be a good idea too I reckon, you could use the money to paint your car and finish the turbo install John :P jk

I hope the club can move on from this and keep getting bigger.

EFFalcon · 16-10-2005, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Damo

Sounds fair. Unfornunately giving numberplates to the police won't do squat except deter people from the meets, which I guess is a good thing if they're playing up. A Gold coin donation for maps would be a good idea too I reckon, you could use the money to paint your car and finish the turbo install John :P jk

I hope the club can move on from this and keep getting bigger.

i honestly couldn't care less.
if people are worried about have their plates handed over, then they shouldn't come.
If they don't do anything stupid their plates won't be handed over.
I'm sick to death of dealing with people who don't care, we organise these cruises for everyone, and i won't hesitate to remove anyones access from here if they act up.

1TUFEA · 16-10-2005, 09:50 PM

Well to all out there who is known for participating in this kind of behaviour Wake up and smell the bacon ! these guys are serious and I dont want to see a perfectly good club have its reputation ruined by a couple of tools who think they are invincible in there metal cookoons and deem in necessary in show everyone just how dumb you really are !!!
leave it for the drag days or dont bother turning up !!!!!

niko · 16-10-2005, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 1TUFEA

invincible in there metal cookoons

this is almost a direct quote from something i watched on today tonight...

niko · 16-10-2005, 09:53 PM

tuffea u watch to much today tonight :p

cruise aim- not to be remembered by cops as hoon club, besides a few extremes, the cruise was pretty well behaved and was a pretty good night

neb · 16-10-2005, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by niko

tuffea u watch to much today tonight :p

what do you mean i agree with everything he said.. if you're going to speed or do burnouts don't bother showing up

1TUFEA · 16-10-2005, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by niko

tuffea u watch to much today tonight :p

Yes i did watch the hoons special on TT ! lol

But this is a serious topic and obviously action will be taken on offenders so lets keep up the numbers and keep everyone happy

Damo Got OWNED LOL !!!

EFFalcon · 16-10-2005, 10:21 PM

hey damo... with the idea of taking plates down...
will it stop u doing burnouts or stop u coming to meets?

Jason[98.EL] · 16-10-2005, 10:41 PM

all i can say is

im glad i broke a promise to my 4 yr old daughter that she could come to the meet
i dont want her to see that

yup i got in the s*%t with my wife for not taking her ( daughter ) but after this thats only the good part

EDXR6T · 16-10-2005, 10:42 PM

yer maby just a few to many random's showed up to this one last few were awsome behaviore wize ur bown to atracted ppl that dont care for the rules or the name of the club

LUXO_8 · 16-10-2005, 11:01 PM

agree with EVERYTHING suggested..
its a shame that its come to this but it's now needed before the club gets a bad name

Stevo · 17-10-2005, 09:01 AM

The way I see it, If your dying to do a burnout, go away from the cruize, somewhere by yourself and let one rip. I cant stand the assholes that rip a huge one then leave and we have to cop the crap for it.

I didnt go on this cruise, but it is dissapointing to hear that police were involved. They shouldnt have to be, because we arent a Commodore cruise..

When i first joined a few years ago, I was shocked that everyone was doing the speed limit , but I soon realized we were out to have LEGAL fun, and It was a joy to go on a cruize without seeing a single nabber.

I suppose you have to expect these types of things happen, especially once you start getting large numbers, but as long as you keep the rules consistent. Ie, if your going to ban/suspend 1 person, make sure you do the same to all the others.

The EL is legal, but hearing about the police presence does deter me from coming to other cruises, and not just that, I dont really like the idea of some hyped up eseries driver slamming into the side of our rides because of silly behaviour in a car park.

I would also like to point out that I do notice alot of the time it is non-eseries club cars that are the worst. Maybe not last friday night, but other cruises I have noticed this.

gozza · 17-10-2005, 09:25 AM

well i have yet to be on a forum cruise yet
i think its great the way its controlled and how everyone is being responsible except for a few...i agree with the ideas on getting up them and inter club punishment....but i slightly don't agree with the cop issues....theres enough cops tagerting repsonble drivers just cos of there car....kick the offending members out of the forum...ban them etc etc and let them find out the hard way

i forgoet what the gold coin donations for but if everyone who went on a cruise night every month donoted $1-5.....it could pay for a burnout...drift/drag day...bbq...bar tab ...watevas clever

Leah · 17-10-2005, 09:31 AM

ok well im going to add my 2 cents worth. As steve said, we didnt go to this cruise, but have been to the others. We've enjoyed all of them!

I honestly believe that 50-60+ e-series cars out cruising on a Friday night is going to attract police attention whether your mucking up or not, so it amazes me that some morons are stupid enough to rip a burnout whilst around the rest of the club. Why ruin the reputation of the club just to look good ?

I will however point out that we never really had any problems on the Monday night mini meets, becuase they were just that "mini" .

Anyways, Im glad to see that something is being done to stop those morons ruining it for all of us. Cheers!

Kaddis · 17-10-2005, 11:00 AM

im 100% with Ghia5L's idea's i would be more than happy to give my details..

ilsautomotive · 17-10-2005, 11:34 AM

I was considering a radical restructure and downsizing of the Club, but I think John's ideas do deserve a few chances. If there are any more repeats of October 14, though, we will be left with no choice.

Requiring rego numbers as part of the sign-up procedure was one of the points the restructure would have covered and we are in discussion about this now. It would require modification to the web site form, as well as existing members being asked to provide the rego details or else have their membership removed.

We are thankful for the suggestions and, in advance, for your cooperation while we phase in changes.

mcflux · 17-10-2005, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Trouty

Requiring rego numbers ... would require modification to the web site form, as well as existing members being asked to provide the rego details or else have their membership removed.

What an excellent way to deal with this! That would safely cover both future and existing members.

gozza · 17-10-2005, 11:37 AM

bring back capital punishment

Kenaz · 17-10-2005, 11:54 AM

I agree with all of the proposed changes and am more than willing to go along with them all

1TUFEA · 17-10-2005, 12:11 PM

yep im keen to give you guys my details thats no problem here !

frost · 17-10-2005, 12:28 PM

good work on this guys, im from ballarat, i come down to a couple of meet points then headed home, but id be happy to give my details, we get like this all the time in ballarat on the cruises, as i run my own cruise forum www.wvcruiseclub.com for the western half of the state, and i got to the point where, i took a photo of a certan VL doing a skid with his number plate fully visable and sent it to the police that night, only bad thing is i dunno what its like in melbourne the first time I did it the cops didnt give a , then i sent it to my mate whos a copper in ballarat and straight away they turned up and pulled the guy over

it gives forums a bad name, and the thing is u **** off the public and they said a white EL or white falcon, and the cops go well thats a white falcon lets get that and u acutally havnt done anything but it was the other white falcon if u get what i mean