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Old 11-02-2006, 10:22 PM   #1
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How much would you be prepared to spend to buy a race car that has lap times as fast as a V8Supercar? What it was also capable of doing 10 second quarters?


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Old 11-02-2006, 10:40 PM   #2
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What type af car are we talking about first.......... If it was an older model car, I wouldn't pay a hell of a lot, But if it was like a DJR with the times your talking about, I would hand over $100'000.oo..... But that is off coarse if I had the money.
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I'd go for an open wheeler and spend no more than 30k and be a happy chappy
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I don't want to bias peoples comments by saying what the car actually is.
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How much would you be prepared to spend to buy a race car that has lap times as fast as a V8Supercar? What it was also capable of doing 10 second quarters?


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Hmmm... the latest v8 radical that holds the Nurburgring record? I'd sell my firstborn!
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:27 PM   #6
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How much for a 250 twin Supercart? I think you can get a decent one for around $8000 - $10000 new.
P.S Knowing you also have a liking for F5000, what's a good original worth? I'm not sure....
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:42 PM   #7
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How much for a 250 twin Supercart? I think you can get a decent one for around $8000 - $10000 new.
P.S Knowing you also have a liking for F5000, what's a good original worth? I'm not sure....
F5000 - around $180,000 for a restored car. You wouldn't drive one that hadn't been restored.
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Hmmm... the latest v8 radical that holds the Nurburgring record? I'd sell my firstborn!
Me too. Mmmmmmm, Powertec "Hyabusa" V8....i'll race you :P
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Hmmm... the latest v8 radical that holds the Nurburgring record? I'd sell my firstborn!
WHAT! did you say an aussie v8 supercar holds the nurburgring record?
if this is true..im lost for words...
better not be gettting my hopes up
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WHAT! did you say an aussie v8 supercar holds the nurburgring record?
if this is true..im lost for words...
better not be gettting my hopes up
I think he means these cars:
www.radical.net.au
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WHAT! did you say an aussie v8 supercar holds the nurburgring record?
if this is true..im lost for words...
better not be gettting my hopes up
No. God no. so far off the pace.
www.radicalmotorsports.com
they hold the record for the fastest road registered car around the ring in the SR8. not bad for only 360hp.
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Whats the point, you can only travel 60-100km/hr on public roads..
Or are you just talking about a race car...
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Yes a race car, not for public roads.
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That open wheeler on Top Gear, it had a supercharged civic type R engine and beat a CBR600 around a racetrack, was 30,000 pounds.
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That open wheeler on Top Gear, it had a supercharged civic type R engine and beat a CBR600 around a racetrack, was 30,000 pounds.
Atom Ariel I think their called.
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Atom Ariel I think their called.
Ariel Atom actually, and yes I'd have one of those in an instant. I wouldn't bother driving it on a public road though.
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Yep, Ariel Atom...best value high speed machine!
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Well most people have been intelligent enough to realise that an open wheeler is the best way of achieving these results.

I'm extremely close to making up my mind to buy a historic open wheeler rolling chassis. I'm not particulary worried about the cost of the chassis, as the Hewland alone is worth 2/3rds of the chassis value and I figure if I sell it a few years down the track I will more than get my money back.

What am concerned about is the cost of the motor. Presently looking at $30,000 to $50,000 and as time wears on they will only get rarer and more expensive. They are also a highly stressed motor (piston speeds not far off F1), so ongoing running costs will be high.

Decision decisions.
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Well most people have been intelligent enough to realise that an open wheeler is the best way of achieving these results.

I'm extremely close to making up my mind to buy a historic open wheeler rolling chassis. I'm not particulary worried about the cost of the chassis, as the Hewland alone is worth 2/3rds of the chassis value and I figure if I sell it a few years down the track I will more than get my money back.

What am concerned about is the cost of the motor. Presently looking at $30,000 to $50,000 and as time wears on they will only get rarer and more expensive. They are also a highly stressed motor (piston speeds not far off F1), so ongoing running costs will be high.

Decision decisions.
What engine is it running?
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What engine is it running?
BDA. Basically a Ford Kent with Cosworth twincam head.
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Is it worth doing an engine conversion?
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An engine conversion would be simple and cheap, but then the car wouldn't be eligible for historics. It may however be good for seat time and hill climbs.
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You might find they have a diversity of classes now for the historic open wheelers.. I know of two friends that have just bought into this category.. One has a circa 1960's spec car and races in the same field (although not trophy class) as the other that has a 1990's engine bolted to the same frame
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You might find they have a diversity of classes now for the historic open wheelers.. I know of two friends that have just bought into this category.. One has a circa 1960's spec car and races in the same field (although not trophy class) as the other that has a 1990's engine bolted to the same frame
Would that be regularity?

Here are the categories that I am aware of:
http://www.vhrr.com/groups.htm
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Would that be regularity?

Here are the categories that I am aware of:
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Sort of OT, I know, but does anyone know how fast the new Elfin Clubman is?
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hmmm v8supercar fastness ay

hows about GTR twin turbo'd all rebuilt to push 600+hp with 4wd and big brakes
all that from either R32 or R33-34 about 150K max
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hmmm v8supercar fastness ay

hows about GTR twin turbo'd all rebuilt to push 600+hp with 4wd and big brakes
all that from either R32 or R33-34 about 150K max
Having ridden in a v8 super, i can say you ain't going to match the lap times in one of them... the amount of downforce they have means that they can pull 2G lateral, and 1.5g longitudinal... 1-1.1G is roughly the limits of what you can do with just the tires.. The single seaters xbgs351 is getting into are a wings and slicks class, and the BDA powered F2s(F3s??) weigh in the 400kg region (i seem to recall anyway).
To Quote Colin Chapman, "Adding more power makes you faster in a straight line, adding more lightness makes you faster everywhere"
Even though its not a F5000, it'll still be tremendously rapid, and it'll be outright surgical in its precision to carve corners...

Oh, and if anyone wants a historic Formula V, PM me, I know of one for sale in Adelaide.
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