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Just watching the local Brisbane news and low and behold Scruby was on there on his banter about the 40kmh school zones being too fast and he wants all of Australia to follow the Adelaide speed limit of 25kmh for all school zones - fair enough we have to protect the kiddies and some idiot parents as well BUT he wants it to be 25kmh for all of the school hours plus an hour or so either side ie from 630am to 630pm inclusive Australia wide so there is no confusion
I personally find the 40 kmh between 7-9 and 2-4 to be adequate as the kids should be in school between the times not running around out side the school grounds with out a parent or teacher
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25km? ИИИИin hell, as if 40 isnt slow enough. If you cant brake and stop within like a second doing 40, your a bloody idiot. 25km, may as well get out and walk faster then the car.
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Next you will be walking the school zones not driving.And I thought we had issues with our school speed zones.
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That's the exact speed of our school zones here in Florida. Believe me I know how you feel. |
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does it really matter.......
these are children zones, personally i dont care
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Who cares what he meant. He's entitled to his opinion.
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An emotive thread. One must balance what is workable to what is safest for each situation. I think for school roads, where people park and pick up kids at beginning and end of school is fine to have fairly low speed limits, I think 40kmph is fine, although in some situations a lesser speed may be appropriate. But to have them hours before or after these times is stupid. I mean do they wish to slow all cars down to 5kmph or have no cars at all.
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Dont tell me, you have an AK47 in the house and know how to use it. I couldnt care less if the speeds were 25 km/hr in school zones, afterall they are where children frequent quiet often, and where kids do run across the roads, so for me not really a bad idea. Any dip$hit that would think by my comment being about not caring for kids especially in kid zones needs to re assess where his head would be better off suited.....
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You know the Dip$hit comment really is not needed all I wanted was for you to clarify what you said earlier the namecalling is not needed. If I said anything harsh I apologize up front but again the Dip$hit comment was not needed.I'm done with it and you. HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND. |
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Wouldn't Darwins theory of evolution apply here?
Basically if you're too stupid to walk or run onto a road without looking you're gonna face the inevitable? Seriously though, I believe instead of making us all Nanny states, we should focus on educating the children more than forcing drivers to go below 40kph. For instance, I remember when I was a child we were taught by our school teachers and parents how to cross the road. There were also ads on during the hours that kids would normally be watching tv to reiterate to them with witty jingles the rules for crossing the road. This was by far more effective than any speed zones and quite frankly, it was almost unheard of at the time, that kids were struck down crossing the road. Now, it's all about shifting responsibility to a third party ie the drivers. And Ford Guy I think you coming from an american perspective need to appreciate that in Oz we have a number of police radar, fixed speed cameras and time shifting speed cameras that patrol our school zones. Fine you say, well the problem is that we have no warning lights for the school zones, just a sign on the side of the road which is often obscured by growth of trees and shrubs and a sign painted on the road surface. You are not alerted within the zone just at the beginning. With the variable speed cameras it is up to us drivers to set our cars time to GMT in order to avoid possibly losing 6 points off our licences for doing 60 in a 60 zone that is temporarily 40. The problem here is that most school zones are so poorly identified that you don't realise you are in one until halfway through. If the speed in a school zone were to move to 25kmh that would mean that not realising you are in a school zone could cost you your licence. This is not down to inattentiveness either, this is because quite often there will be traffic, and you will be focussing your attention on the conditions ie somebody trying to turn right in front of you.
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Are we all forgeting something...........at all schools there is a school crossing with a "lollypop person" to stop traffic and get the kids across the road safely and all the kids and parents should use it...!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The NSW government has been stuffing around "evaluating" the effectiveness of flashing lights at school zones since 2003/4. Guess what? The results are still "inconclusive" and further research is needed. FFS!! I defy anyone to explain to me how having orange flashing warning lights would not increase driver awareness and reduce average speeds. Then you get speeding fines being given out on things like pupil fee days! WTF?? Surely it makes sense to make people aware that they are entering a school zone, and inform them whether or not speed restrictions are in place at that precise time. After all, its the safety of the children thats important, not the revenue........right? |
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A speed limit of 25km/h is OK by me at primary schools. You only have to put up with it for 400m or so and that adds only ~20 seconds to your trip. It is not about shifting responsibility to drivers, more about the fact that young kids just don't really get the big picture at that age. I certainly don't see the need to drop speeds below 40km/h at high schools. If you are of that age, it is time you started to understand the consequences of your actions. Personally, I want to know why kids have to be driven to school every day? I used to walk or ride my pushbike! Any wonder the kids are so fat and the traffic so bad! |
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As for school zones being clearly marked, why not take a drive down the boulevarde in strathfield where there are 3 school zones in the space of 1.5klm? then you have more once you get around the corner near redmyre road. Thats 4 in the space of 2 klm so by your calculation that would add 1 minute 20 to a 2klm trip. I'm not suggesting that anyone would like to hit a child, and its something that I pay particular attention to when I see the kids, but the arguement still stands; why penalise drivers further particularly where fine revenue is concerned when a more effective approach would be to educate children nationally - backed up by public service advertising on television during the hours kids watch tv. This isn't a new untried approach, it has happened before to great effect.
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we live in a state where the speed for school zones varies from 40 - 80 in rural area's (no im not lieing) and times that vary from area' to area so it makes it confusing for drivers when faced with varying options with school area's in just qld let alone people traveling interstate. Scooby can go ИИИИ himself, im over that pompus pricks remarks about redicilous road safey scheems, he must wake up in the morning and think, how can i really ИИИИ off australia today... ohh i know ill just open my mouth, his oppinions are held with a grain of salt by most, and i feel sorry for those that belive the bullИИИИ that dribbles from this guys mouth. All this comming from a guy last year wanting to ban tint as he belived it had links to terriorism... ![]() making speeds slower will increase the impatiance of motorists and i belive have the reverse effects of what they are trying to acheave, once out of the speed zone or once the '25km/h car is out of the way they will drive like a mad man to make up lost time, and make people extremely frustrated as their will be morning joggers passing them, if you cannot consintrate at 40km/h and bring your car to a stop with in a few meters then i would be concerned as to why you have a licance in the first place, hell does ABS even effectivly work at 40km/h? ![]()
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No, I don't need flashing stimuli every time I come across a stop sign, but then again I don't know of too many stop signs that only operate at certain times of the day and certain days of the year either! |
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I refer you to the latest TAC commercial where the girl gets hit. They change one fact of 5klms and she only gets bruses. How about you look both ways and get no injuries at all! This makes me soo angry. Look Left and right. No injury then!
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