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22-04-2006, 03:18 AM | #1 | ||
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Aii guys/girls, as you may know, i drive the Blue EB GT mockup, ive come to several cruises and meets incl all ford day n that, and as you probly would know, it blows alot of blue smoke (oil), due to the rings being fried.
When we bought the motor, it had a ACL full kit(new gaskets + pistons n bearings n all) reground crank, high comp, but only one catch to it, the oil rings were cooked, (the previous owner had it turbo'd n fried em). He said to us that it will use roughly 1 litre of oil a month, (yea right, if it was idling), i go through about 5 litres in a month, regardless of wot grade oil i use, (15, 30, 50,) which is bad REAL bad...(Derr) Anyways, weve finally decided to deal with the rings and bearings, n get new ones, big job, so its gonna take awhile (the motor looks like a mess), a fairly long project as im also getting new valve stem seals too + new heavy duty clutch, gutting the lot...i thought id post the pictures n details of wen we took the motor out, my old man, hes 56 years old, but it only took him 2 hours to do it (started at 1030, was out 1230) with help from my friend Josh (blue overals) (94EDGhia) and me (yellow hat), not bad i say...so ill keep u's posted on how things go on this, weve given the block to my dads mechanics in lavo, to do new rings n bearings n timing seals n wot not. unfortunatly my car will be off the road for about 4 weeks+ but its worth it, to stop throwing oil n dissapearing in the distance with smoke! LOL Hope You Enjoy (Yes, The Motor Looks Like a Complete Pig Sty)
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22-04-2006, 07:51 AM | #2 | ||
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hey grechie, i hope it all goes well. im still lovin that body kit. (all in good time scott, just be patient ). good job kettin the motor out so quick. ill give u a tip, before u put the head back on, clean out the water sleeves/jackets/the bits that are full of crap. that doesnt let water through.
good luck mate. scott
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22-04-2006, 12:05 PM | #3 | ||
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some good progress there Grechie. Did you pull the motor with the gearbox attached or did you leave the box in there, if so how did you manage that ? Should be great once it's all back together, what clutch are you gunna put in it ?
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22-04-2006, 01:12 PM | #4 | ||
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we pulled the gearbox out and then the motor out with the bellhousing and s@#t still attached it was actually alot easier than i thought i remember we done an engine on a volvo at work and it took 2-3 days because i have to drop the subframe and engine all as one and there is a hell of alot more wires. but yeah should be realy good wen its finished.
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22-04-2006, 02:12 PM | #5 | ||
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yer its a ИИИИИ pulling a donk wen u got the tran's on it
took us about 3-4 hour's to get -JJM-'s donk out with the box on i no what im doing wen i rebuild my donk now;) |
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22-04-2006, 03:27 PM | #6 | ||
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aai guys thanxk for input, today, we cleaned aboslutly every single part, bolts, parts etc, will high pressure cleaner and some degreaser, so wen its time to go back in, its all nice n clean (well at least no oil/grease everywhere)... we even degreased and high pressure cleaned the whole engine bay, its sparking, u can actually see the sub frame now!
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22-04-2006, 09:18 PM | #7 | |||
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Just wait for a month or two when the blue mist paint reacts with the degreaser (I used strong stuff) and it goes a wierd blue colour :P
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22-04-2006, 04:01 PM | #8 | ||
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Si that a bit of coolant sitting in the end cylinder?
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22-04-2006, 05:33 PM | #9 | |||
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yepp the motor was leaking coolant as we were taking it to peices lol
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22-04-2006, 07:57 PM | #10 | ||
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so why did it take untill now to fix, Greenpeace didn't happen to sponcer this project did they?...
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22-04-2006, 08:09 PM | #11 | ||
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Looks like you are doing things pretty quickly mate hope all works out fine. No shortcuts!!
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23-04-2006, 01:25 AM | #12 | ||
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bout time! took me ages to clean all the oil you blew over my car on all ford day
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23-04-2006, 01:34 PM | #13 | ||
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LOL @ oil on paint
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23-04-2006, 07:11 PM | #14 | ||
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Grechie...r u gonna use a AU steel head gasket...might be a good idea.
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23-04-2006, 09:34 PM | #15 | ||
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come on man, surely its only worthy of a 2nd hand compound gasket ;)
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23-04-2006, 09:43 PM | #16 | ||
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whats the go with the 'marks' in the pistons on the exhaust side?
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23-04-2006, 09:51 PM | #17 | ||
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i think grechie used acl pistons
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23-04-2006, 10:30 PM | #18 | ||
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yeah i got some ACL race series pistons the other day and they didn't have those marks. but the standard pistons that came out had the same sorta marks but that was due to the cam stopping and the pistons smashing the valves.
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23-05-2006, 08:42 PM | #19 | ||
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aii guys! been a while i know! just a update on it, we got the motor back today, all cleaned up, new oil rings, compression rings, bearings, front timing seal, rear main seal, harmonic balancer seal, sup gasket, etc and she looking good, tommorow am goign to pick up the AU headgasket, got 94EDGHIA to price it from jefferson fords for me, as he gets it for trade discount, $47, thanks josh!, going to pick up headbolts, run in oil, sparkies, and new fuel line soon, then start on her, she will be appearing on the next e series cruise too!! will update with upcoming pics
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23-05-2006, 08:57 PM | #20 | ||
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you should have told me i wouldve got a price for genuine head bolts from ford today.
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24-05-2006, 12:26 AM | #21 | ||
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those marks on the pistons looks like the valves hitting it...
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24-05-2006, 12:59 AM | #22 | ||
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they where there when we got the motor, so i duno
EDIT: Found my piston on www.ACLPerformance.com.au and found this picture of my Piston... doesnt show that little mark, so its obviously a valve mark then...doesnt hurt nething does it?
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24-05-2006, 02:20 PM | #23 | ||
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those marks are normal. you'd know about it if the valves were hitting.
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Mate you have done well!
I started to take my motor out over three months ago... and I still have not finished! It started as a "cam" job, fitted the cam and noticed a loose bolt in the timing cover. Nipped it up and as it tightened it showed a huge crack in the cover. No worries... replace the cover! Removed the cover.... after having to drop the sump first. Then noticed two pieces of metal chain tensioner wedged in behind the oil pump drive..... Now it is a complete rebuild!! D:
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26-05-2006, 06:21 PM | #25 | |||
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Good job man. you got it moving along quite quickly! (makes me feel lazy) yeah i got the new acl series pistons aswell so yeah. um what exactly did you get done to the block? |
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26-05-2006, 06:22 PM | #26 | |||
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new bearings, and all rings done, compression oil etc
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24-05-2006, 02:42 PM | #27 | ||
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DJL351 sorry to hear that lol when do u expect to have it done by? i hope to get some photos today of the bits n post em up
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Mate I keep changing my mind. :
At first I was just going to change the chain and guides... then I thought... I've got the GT... lets go wild! So the head has been ported and polished, I've shaved a little off too to get the comp up. Now I was looking at throwing a turbo at it before I boughtthe GT... I think I'd like to leave the turbo now and see how far I can push the I6 as is. :sm_headba D:
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26-05-2006, 02:41 AM | #29 | ||
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UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
took some photos tonite of the engine, going to assemble it tommorow, cant wait, !, ENJOY!!! Au Headgasket Genuine Ford Head Bolts Random shot Without Motor/Bonnet It aint super low LOL! For when the rings are run in
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26-05-2006, 02:44 AM | #30 | ||
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n also a Comparison!
what it used to look like vs what it looks like now
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