Climate Control Conversion :)

InitialD · 05-04-2005, 10:33 PM

Well The First Part of the Climate Control Conversion started...

I have aquired :

EA2 Ghia Enginebay loom
EA2 Ghia Dash loom
All the Climate Control sensors, Climate Module, Heaterbox and EB Lighter Coloured Dash and interior plastics.

Big thanks to Dansedgli for all the good stuff (parts), If this all works its cause of you mate :sm_headba :king:

Now Before I start fitting all the parts I wanted to ask some questions
1. Will the Climate Control still work without the Coolant Temp Sensor? I dont indend on using it in AUTO mode
2. The ECU Wiring is the same for GL as for Ghia right?

Ill update this as I go along

InitialD · 05-04-2005, 10:34 PM

Ohh and Also, has anyone else tried this before?

Damo · 05-04-2005, 10:42 PM

climate control is overated IMO. Though it will look better.

Do the climate controls on Falcons tell ya the temp outside ?

Smoked · 06-04-2005, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Damo

climate control is overated IMO. Though it will look better.

Do the climate controls on Falcons tell ya the temp outside ?

Not the EA or EB series 1. the only tell you the temp setting desired. The unit was updated for EB2 and ED, it got more features, ie Ambient Temp, A/C on/off.

Psycho Chicken · 05-04-2005, 11:00 PM

I believe the temp sensor also tells it to switch between recirc and fresh, though you could set that manually. It should work, probably find some sort of code to throw at you. We'll unplug mine when I'm over and find out.

What's the point of putting it in if you aren't going to use the auto feature?

And yeah they tell you the outside temp and no they aren't over rated, you povo pack people are just jealous!

05-04-2005, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

What's the point of putting it in if you aren't going to use the auto feature?

And yeah they tell you the outside temp and no they aren't over rated, you povo pack people are just jealous!

i dont use the Auto feature in mine ever! same as the cruise control, i use it once every 3 months or so. I should have bought a GLi.....i just love my Electric windows.

Sundeep · 05-04-2005, 11:05 PM

Don't thank Dan. You'll be abusing him when it all doesn't work lol. My trans has ****ed up 3 times!

I'm only joking hehe. The trans is the grouse.

Good luck with ur project.

Sundeep

Psycho Chicken · 05-04-2005, 11:15 PM

Oh I would of killed for cruise on the way back from AFD!

I use auto all the time, just whack it on 22 in the mornings and go, it'll come on when it's ready.

EFFalcon · 06-04-2005, 08:02 AM

Cruise & power windows = BEST MOD EVER! :P

Damo · 06-04-2005, 05:28 PM

I still think it's overated. What benifits, other than showing you the supposed temp in car, does it have.. ?

My Pov pak has Climate control. It's just not digital.

Psycho Chicken · 06-04-2005, 06:40 PM

I can set the temp and forget about it. No fiddling with knobs, no cold air blowing when the car isn't heated up.

niko · 06-04-2005, 07:05 PM

u shoulda just bought a fairmont ghia... lol

LUXO_8 · 06-04-2005, 07:26 PM

climate is great, set at a temp and it keeps the car at that temp....... ingenious.

good luck with the conversion mick

niko · 06-04-2005, 07:34 PM

u could save alot of time an effort if u get a ghia/fairlane to start with

InitialD · 06-04-2005, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by niko

u could save alot of time an effort if u get a ghia/fairlane to start with

LOL but where is the fun in that? (Allthou a Pimped out Fairlane with Chromies would be nice [pimp my ride strikes again]

: )

EFFALCON - Yea it does, And Im intending to fit Cruise control next aswell since with all the ghia wiring there, it just plugs in

EFFalcon · 07-04-2005, 08:19 AM

exactly...
if i had an EF Ghia right now... my car wouldn't be as special as it is now :P
no one works up a GLi!

Kenaz · 07-04-2005, 09:08 AM

Climate is ok, I usually prefer to put the windows down though

spope · 07-04-2005, 12:30 PM

I was gonna do this conversion over easter... but i threw my back out and i'm still waiting to do it!
I'm hanging out, especially with the cold mornings, cause I have no heater whatsover at the moment.
I reckon it's heaps better because i spend half my time adjusting my fan speed and turning the a/c on/off anyways. Plus, it's good to have features in the car that weren't available. ;)

Oh, and according to the Ford manual, if the coolant temp sender isn't plugged in, the climate ecu assumes an engine temp of 92 degrees, which means that on cold starts you'll get cold air blowing on you and you won't have the emergency recirc mode if the car gets too hot.

InitialD · 07-04-2005, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by spope

Oh, and according to the Ford manual, if the coolant temp sender isn't plugged in, the climate ecu assumes an engine temp of 92 degrees, which means that on cold starts you'll get cold air blowing on you and you won't have the emergency recirc mode if the car gets too hot.

So without it, if i turn the heater on, it wont work untill the water heats up?
What in the heck is emergency recirc mode? :togo: lol
I will postpone fitting it today and get a Coolant Temp Sender for it.

My Next question is, as i dont have SLS and never want it, If i simply dont put the SLS relay in and the SLS Fuse, that means the car will still work fine? I think Dellboy mentioned to me once that the trip computer or cluster would allert me that SLS isnt working? I dont want that

dansedgli · 07-04-2005, 12:35 PM

ghia'd up gli's are the best! I have power front windows, non functional rears, no winders or electric motors! ( who uses the back windows anyway!) ghia interior, ghia cluster with non functioning oil pressure and water level switches.

Its awesome.... no really its awesome!

EFFalcon · 07-04-2005, 12:37 PM

agreed Dan..
half arsed ghia's are the way to go!

Gunns · 07-04-2005, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by EFFalcon

half arsed ghia's are the way to go!

I 2nd that!

InitialD · 07-04-2005, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by EFFalcon

half arsed ghia's are the way to go!

I 3rd that, Hell yea they rock, Everything is about to be GHIA in mine cept for SLS that i dont care for

AUII_Forte · 07-04-2005, 03:30 PM

My EA Ghia had the SLS fuse pulled out and I never had a problem.

InitialD · 07-04-2005, 03:36 PM

Thanks AUII_Forte

santoitaliano · 07-04-2005, 03:47 PM

is power window mod a pain in the ***?

cheers,

dansedgli · 08-04-2005, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by santoitaliano

is power window mod a pain in the ***?

cheers,

nah its easy, takes about 20 minutes a door to swap the window mechanisms(undo 6 bolts, drill out 3 rivets, then reverse for installation), the rest is just laying a wiring loom.

InitialD · 14-04-2005, 12:35 AM

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After Changing the engine bay loom over to a Ghia one, along with Ghia Heaterbox and Dash loom, IT WORKS :king:

Its not Too hard to fit this to a GL, but you have to definitly have a low CBF Factor lol

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Just to let anyone interested in doing this what you have to do
Swap GL enginebay loom over to GHIA
This just plugs straight in
Swap Dash loom over to the GHIA one
Means dash removal, and pulling apart

out:
Fit new Climate Control Style Heater box
This is a fun one, especially when your old one decides to leak about 2ltrs of COOLANT INTO YOUR INTERIOR!!! This is the worst part of the conversion as its a pain in the *** to bolt it back in.

I will post up some pictures tomorrow of what its like.
Big thanks for Gunns with helping me get my *** into gear and doing this mod (Im sure you just wanted the SVO cluster

: j/k)

MintEAFalcon · 14-04-2005, 10:55 AM

Hi guys,

Good to see there are some other guinea pigs out there doing this mod before me.

I have an EA II S Pack and am curious as to the reason behind the engine bay loom change. Is this the loom that runs through the firewall on the passenger side and if so, what deos the Ghia engine bay loom have that the GL or S pack looms dont? I have a connector for the ambient temperature sensor at the front of the car (under the lip of metal in front of the radiator).

Cant wait to see pictures!

Thanks for the heads-up on the ED controllers not working on Pre-ED cars too. There is one on Ebay I had my eye on!

Cheers,

Mark.

InitialD · 14-04-2005, 02:57 PM

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Good to see there are some other guinea pigs out there doing this mod before me.

Thats what Im here for :P

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I have an EA II S Pack and am curious as to the reason behind the engine bay loom change. Is this the loom that runs through the firewall on the passenger side and if so, what deos the Ghia engine bay loom have that the GL or S pack looms dont?

The Ghia loom has provision for Cruise Control, Air Temp Sensor and SLS if you want that (I didnt :P)

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I have a connector for the ambient temperature sensor at the front of the car (under the lip of metal in front of the radiator)

You have WHAT NOW? You sure its the ATS connector???