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25-07-2006, 11:27 PM | #1 | ||
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l think this topic hasnt been asked so here goes.
l was driving home the other day when l spotted a camera car with a motorist yelling and screaming at the operator thru the passengers window ,as l was driving past another motorist was bepping his horn and giving the operator a one finger salute and yelling out you f#c^n dogs. would like to know what other members think about this. my 2 cents- you speed you get caught its your own fault no-one told you to speed so why have a go at the camera operator ,he / she is just doing a job feeding his / her family paying there bills like all of us. or is it because they are on the front line to the public. |
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25-07-2006, 11:43 PM | #2 | ||
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The issue is not of getting fined for speeding, it's getting fined when you're barely a few kilometres over, which is rather ridiculous.
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25-07-2006, 11:43 PM | #3 | ||
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I don't know why you would ever abuse one? I've been driving 10 years and have never had a fine via a camera. They stand out like a bright yellow circle on a black back ground. Anyone that gets caught by one deserves it for being nieve.
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26-07-2006, 12:03 AM | #4 | |||
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26-07-2006, 12:15 AM | #5 | ||
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Why should they miss out???????Parasites
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26-07-2006, 08:31 AM | #6 | ||
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yeh you mexicans shouldnt be able to complain. you get warning signs and all sorts of crap. we get clapped out magnas hiding cams inside or sitting just after a speed change sign and booking you for 3 over.
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26-07-2006, 08:34 AM | #7 | |||
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26-07-2006, 08:42 AM | #8 | ||
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I personally do't abuse them, but what peeves me is that you have civillians doing the job of law enforcement. If I break the law I want to be pinged by a policer officer, not an overpaid private operator.
Just my 2 cents..... |
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26-07-2006, 08:48 AM | #9 | |||
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Like the rest of us they probably have a family and bills to pay and if it came to a choice of being a speed camera operator or being unemployed you have to do the right thing by your family don't you?? It's not like these poor buggers are taking pleasure in what they are doing. Noone in their right mind would enjoy a job where they are regularly abused by mindless, narrow-minded twits. |
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26-07-2006, 08:50 AM | #10 | ||
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Not something I'd do personally but why not if it makes them feel better about themselves, the people who take on the job know what it involves so I don't feel any pity for them.
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26-07-2006, 08:50 AM | #11 | |||
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26-07-2006, 08:54 AM | #12 | |||
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26-07-2006, 09:06 AM | #13 | ||
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Their beef rests with their government but they dont have the BALLS to take it to this level - they get much better endorphin releases by abusing the guy that's paid to guard the detection device.
It's pretty simple, really. If you abuse someone who is operating/supervising a photographic speed detection device, you are a neanderthal. If you had indeed evolved to a point where you are no longer a primate, you would realise that this person has nothing to do with traffic policy and is simply doing their job.
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26-07-2006, 09:55 AM | #14 | |||
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26-07-2006, 04:15 PM | #15 | ||||
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I agree with you there, but the camera operator has the free will to say "no I choose not to do your dirty work for you, I'll seek employment elsewhere." |
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26-07-2006, 05:08 PM | #16 | |||
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Down here they put cameras at the bottom of hills in 60 zones then book you for 3klm over and wonder why they get abused. I heard a story about a bloke talking to camera operator to distract him while his mate unscrewed the numberplate, they put it on their own car and went speeding past the camera car a heap of times, 30 plus over the limit. : |
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26-07-2006, 05:11 PM | #17 | |||
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26-07-2006, 05:36 PM | #18 | ||
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They chose to screw over people for a living, getting abuse is part of the job and they just have to accept it.
Im one of the people that abuses them every time i go past, sure it doesnt do much but if it ruins their day, then hopefully one day they will quit scamming the public for a living and that will create more hastle for steve tax and his goons. In WWII the SS were "just" doing their job too. |
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26-07-2006, 05:43 PM | #19 | |||
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The effect that speed limits have on the road toll are absolutely minuscule compared to all the other contributing factors - people failing to give way, unroadworthy vehicles, inattention, poor road conditions or visibility (i.e. big-a55 bushes planted on roundabouts and traffic islands so you cant see cars that are coming) poor driver training etc etc etc. Normal, sane motorists with some idea of the real causes of accidents/crashes who take care when driving are rightfully outraged at being called an 'unsafe' driver for exceeding the (often rediculous) speed limit, while people who fail to give way, fail to indicate, or just plain old fail to care aren't penalised in the slightest. "lex injusta non est lex" Don't remember who has that as their user text, but it's damn good. |
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26-07-2006, 06:07 PM | #20 | ||
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ive been flashed by 4 cameras and two red lights cameras for being just over or just clipped the red and they never followed those up anyway. friends and family have all experienced this as well so in reality they only follow ones up that are really doing that **** on purpose.
I also wwas walking home from the pub the other night and being slightly tipsy i was talking to everyone who i came across and one of them happened to be a camera man. He kindly informed me after trying to get my question right that usually they dont even set the cameras to go off unless the drivers are 10k's over the limit. And those who say that they are screwing people over to make a living: - they are simply being paid by the government, this means that if these people are screwing people because they work for the government, then surely EVERY person who works for the government would be classified as doing this. |
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26-07-2006, 06:12 PM | #21 | |||
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http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/snaptrap.asp This is another amusing but untrue one. http://www.snopes.com/katrina/photos/speedcam.asp
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26-07-2006, 06:21 PM | #22 | ||
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In the words of Homer Simpson "cause its fun, derr". If they don't like being yelled at for being government revenue raising stooges then they shouldn't be doing it for a living. I couldn't live with myself knowing I was ripping off people who make a small mistake. Even police officers and parlimentarians have been caught speeding. Everybody makes mistakes.
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26-07-2006, 06:31 PM | #23 | ||
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up here near noosa the fun police sometimes take stupidity to a new level its been known for them to stand with radar at the end of impossible short overtaking lanes and to look to get a guy a few clicks over just for trying to get safley past and dont worry all of these laww enforcers believe in what there doing if you get my drift
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26-07-2006, 07:01 PM | #24 | |||
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A statement was issued by QPOL about how naughty it was and all the other charges that will be issued when they catch the baddies and how the hi-def piccies are helping them identify the vehicle and driver etc..... Just goes to show eh.... ya can't always trust the internet.... |
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26-07-2006, 08:00 PM | #25 | ||
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If it's morally wrong for a government to be making money from speed cameras, it is also morally wrong for an individual to be making money from speed cameras (whether you own them, contract to work for them, or rake it in through fines - makes no difference) if the view is that its wrong then stick to it,
abusing people might be going a little far though, but i dont agree with the government OR individuals making money from these things, but I can see the good they do for our roads, but i think it was a simple solution, that didnt create efficiency on our roads |
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26-07-2006, 08:08 PM | #26 | |||
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in south aus some camera cars have side mounted cameras on the roof, just to catch abusive "customers". not sure of the fine etc, but there must have been a need. |
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26-07-2006, 09:01 PM | #27 | |||
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Im sure none of their victims personally offended them but the government told them to do it so they did. THanks for the tip. Ive yet to see any herein Vic, if i do ill give them a thumbs up while im screaming lol. |
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26-07-2006, 09:19 PM | #28 | ||
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Its quite simple really everybody leaves 15mins before they have to and sit 10ks under the speed limit all the time...they'll be out of a job in no time!
Or everybody can carry a can of black or whatever colour you like of spray paint..pull up in front of the camera car and paint the windscreen and flash unit...problem solvered!! Or just resort to anarchy and trash the car and beat the crap out of the operator....whats the worst they can do to you...shoot you and they won't do that!!!!!!!!
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26-07-2006, 10:06 PM | #29 | ||
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I wouldnt blame the poor operator. Its the job he's got, to pay off his mortgage and feed and clothe his family. Someone will still be operating these regardless.
The reason we have these cameras is government policy. I remember during the last Victorian Govt election, the speed limit tolerance on speed cameras was a big issue with the opposition opposing the tight tolerances that they introduced. The govt was still re-elected. People have bad memories. |
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26-07-2006, 10:50 PM | #30 | |||
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