Pod Or Panel

[5.4 GT]

Which is the best to fit in the air filter box of an EFII Ghia, either a pod or a panel (K&N or BMC filter)? Furthermore how much would you expect to pay for one and where can i get it from?... I was quoted $170 for K&N filter at supercheap auto.

Thanks,
Dave

[-jjM-]

LOL shop around mate, ur gettin ripped, last i checked 80 at repco

as well, go pod man, im goin pod soon with somemoney, need it too

air filters are a ****, pods are a ****. Just get a decent paper filter, or if you want to put a sticker on your car saying 'i have a fulli sk k and n' then buy a k and n

[geckoGT]

Originally Posted by woodstock_rocks

air filters are a ****, pods are a ****. Just get a decent paper filter, or if you want to put a sticker on your car saying 'i have a fulli sk k and n' then buy a k and n

Thats what I like to see, broad statements with no justification. I can tell you that I can definately notice a difference with my 4" pod filter. Tried it at willowbank, 3 runs with pod, 3 runs without filter at all and ran slower but .2 without the filter. Wish I could put a panel in to give it a go but BA XR8's never had panel filters. Obviously ford believe pods are **** too, as they went to the added development expense to put them in all BOSS powered cars yet the 220 gets a panel

[geckoGT]

Sorry, accidental double post.

[stockstandard]

I wouldn’t go as far as to say aftermarket filters are a complete ****, but I would say they are VERY overrated. They might make a difference on a modified Boss, but on your average e-series which puts out less that 120rwkw, the reality of it is there are bugger all gains to be had unless the filter you are replacing is rooted.

There are a lot of better ways to spend $170 (like a $120 cam from wade and a handful of shims).

[5.4 GT]

ah k thanks for your replies guys... pod it is and i thought the $170 price tag on the filter was a bit steep...

Originally Posted by geckoxr8

Thats what I like to see, broad statements with no justification. I can tell you that I can definately notice a difference with my 4" pod filter. Tried it at willowbank, 3 runs with pod, 3 runs without filter at all and ran slower but .2 without the filter. Wish I could put a panel in to give it a go but BA XR8's never had panel filters. Obviously ford believe pods are **** too, as they went to the added development expense to put them in all BOSS powered cars yet the 220 gets a panel

That's what I like to see, narrow statements that carry no factual evidence.

I can, and now will add justification.

The reason you ran slower without the filter has got to do with the million other factors involved in drag racing. It had nothing to do with your filter being in or out. In fact, if anything, you should have run faster with the filter out rather than in.

Dyno proven results show, that no form of filter on an engine (in an environment where no nasty's can enter the engine), will increase air flow and hence increase power output. A filter is, and always will be a restriction on the amount of air that will flow into an engine. What does the basic engineering principle tell us? The more air that can be sucked or blown into an engine, the more power. (Obviously upto the engines limit and also other factors, such as fuel delivery, ignition, etc)

The reason we use filters, though, is because we drive everyday driven cars, and don't want nasty aliens :alien2: entering our engines and causing damage. They are merely a form of protection for our engines. Hence why i said, and will continue to say that any type of 'high performance/high flowing' filter, such as a K and N, BMC, etc, are a ****. The reason people buy them is because they are durable and long lasting. I'd probably change a paper air filter once a year. (Check and clean it out when i felt it was necessary) For $10 a filter, i could change my filter 17 times, over 17 years, and only just pay for a high performance filter. The K and N filters also have to be washed, oiled, etc. Which is an added expense to buy the cleaning equipment, etc.

Why is the fact that Ford used a POD filter on the BOSS engines an added development expense? They would have just checked that the POD would flow enough air to feed the engine, made a POD box, and attached it to the intake tubing. Not exactly millions of dollars out of pocket. I guess maybe they wanted a 'sporty/performance' stereotype filter as the choice of filter for their 'sporty/performance' model?

[jjj]

I have a new 3.5inch(90mm) pod filter kit on my EL, quite happy with it compared to au xr8 snorkel, K&N panel filter.

cost was $104.50 inc gst which included polished alloy pipe, 3.5inch necked Oiled pod filter and all the mounting brackets and clamps.

cheers Luke.

[EDXR8]

Originally Posted by woodstock_rocks

I guess maybe they wanted a 'sporty/performance' stereotype filter as the choice of filter for their 'sporty/performance' model?

Or maybe they calculated that a pod could offer greater surface area for the size.

Originally Posted by woodstock_rocks

Dyno proven results show, that no form of filter on an engine (in an environment where no nasty's can enter the engine), will increase air flow and hence increase power output.

Correct no airfilter will increase the airflow potential of the engien, however filters like K&N or BMC often reduce the restriction therefore will allow the potential for greater power.

I agree, pods are a **** for most engines out there. The panel filter setup for the faclons is capable of around 180rwkw so until you get there there is no real reason to go for a pod setup, they will even reduce power if you don't shield the pod properly. But once you are making more than 180rwkw or so, a pod filter will generally give greater surface area therefore flow more air before becoming a restriction.