Ford Ranger - milking the cow for every last drop..

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Life is full of choices and it clear that Ford has made them for our market but intersting
that Ranger has been given a pass until about 2028, maybe ford is hoping to be off diesel by then…

Diesel is trash for light vehicles - fragile because of all their emissions bullshit, expensive to maintain, NVH issues with their clattery idle and rough characteristics.

Compared to the Ecoboost range, Ford's own diesel engines are junk.

It started out as a technology that could run on multiple fuels and it's turned into this picky fragile piece of shit that shits the bed the moment it doesn't get pristine diesel, the failures all cost four figures starting with a five and above to fix,

Not only does it need mint condition fuel, you now need to operate them in a very specific way or the emissions gear shits the bed.

Should be left for heavy commercial vehicles, ships and that sort of thing where you need that benefit a diesel engine suppliees

Anything 4500kg GVM and under doesn't need diesel and I'd also bet that sub 8000kg GVM doesn't need it either.

PHEV Ranger is going to be interesting with the 2.3 Ecoboost, if it does sub 10L/100km then diesel should be buried.

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Looking forward to Ranger ST

I know you jest, but ST Badges on anything other than Focus/Fiesta is just whoring out the brand. But i guess now with the ST brand now pretty much gone they may aswell.


I agree re a street performance based ranger as you also posted, but dont put a bloody ST badge on it. But even with some decent suspension they'll be junk when turning but go like shit off a shovel in a straight line (much like XR6T/F6 utes ) but thats also what mericans love.

See so many pretty quick late model F trucks with either a V8 or the turbo 6.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by DJM83

I know you jest, but ST Badges on anything other than Focus/Fiesta is just whoring out the brand. But i guess now with the ST brand now pretty much gone they may aswell.


I agree re a street performance based ranger as you also posted, but dont put a bloody ST badge on it. But even with some decent suspension they'll be junk when turning but go like shit off a shovel in a straight line (much like XR6T/F6 utes ) but thats also what mericans love.

See so many pretty quick late model F trucks with either a V8 or the turbo 6.

It's a crime for sure to use the ST badge on a body on frame commercial vehicle that steers like the Costa Concordia

If you were digging through the archives of names to recycle, you could probably wheel our 'XR6 Turbo' for this concept but it wouldn't be appropriate for the 2.3L variant.

Maybe wheel out typhoon/tornado again eliminating the reference to 'F6'

As much as I lament the death of Ford Europe and their majestic hatches, I can appreciate a Ranger singl/dual cab that is a street/strip weapon, blue collar working class man supercar type job.

The Raptor kind of fits the bill but it's got a lot of compromises to be that off road focused weapon.

We've got this really popular class of vehicle we can justify spending some coin on and we're letting the opportunity pass by under our noses.

[.:4:.]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

It's a crime for sure to use the ST badge on a body on frame commercial vehicle that steers like the Costa Concordia

If you were digging through the archives of names to recycle, you could probably wheel our 'XR6 Turbo' for this concept but it wouldn't be appropriate for the 2.3L variant.

Maybe wheel out typhoon/tornado again eliminating the reference to 'F6'

As much as I lament the death of Ford Europe and their majestic hatches, I can appreciate a Ranger single cab that is a street/strip weapon, blue collar working class man supercar type job.

We've got this really popular class of vehicle we can justify spending some coin on and we're letting the opportunity pass by under our noses.

Nah, if ford did make performance street ute they'd probably name it some make you think your a big man name like what toyota did with there hi lux rugged x.
Ford ranger testicle rolls off the tongue.....

[Franco Cozzo]

I like to think we could knock up a pretty good parts bin special Ranger with what we know is available across the entire T6 platform globally

Might have to source it out of South Africa instead of Thailand though because there's something to do with the Thailand plant not having access to 4 cylinder Ecoboost engines or something - the VW Amaranger Ecoboost comes out of South Africa for our market.

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by prydey

According to the website that makes 9 models of Ranger, not including the different engine configurations.

XL, XLS, XLT, SPORT, WILDTRAK, TREMOR, BLACK, RAPTOR and PLATINUM.

So Ford Australia sells 9 different cars? That's impressive!

[EBSXR6]

Ford should have dropped a Godzilla into the Raptor instead of the horrible sounding V6.

[nibble]

Originally Posted by EBSXR6

Ford should have dropped a Godzilla into the Raptor instead of the horrible sounding V6.

Have you driven one? No, didn't think so.

[DFB FGXR6]

My desired Ranger variant doesn't yet exist, and never will. Probably because there aren't many nut jobs like me who would want such a beast.

Lets call it the Ranger DC (Daily Comfort) or Ranger XL P (Premium or Plus) -

- Single cab chassis
- 2WD
- Low ride height (all current gen Rangers are high riders regardless of cab or drivetrain layout)
- EcoBoost 2.3, or EcoBoost 2.7 V6 (don't care which, I'm just sick of diesel)
- 10 speed auto

- XLS exterior package, as in alloy wheels and less black plastic
- XL interior spec, as in vinyl floors
- Leather steering wheel, just because
- Please allow me to choose a colour other than white, black or grey.

For me, I don't daily drive a XL Single Cab Chassis because I'm cheap, but because it's the only model in the range that comes close to fulfilling my requirements. As in, two seats, a huge tray and secure driving dynamics that comes from the low ride height spec.

I have no need for a dual cab and the token gesture tray. I don't need carpet, or leather trim, or automated parking assist. I don't need high ride height to make the vehicle handle like its about to tip over at any moment. I don't want a noisy, all-or-nothing power/torque delivery. And I don't want to buy it for tax evasion purposes.

So, for those who need the single cab/large tray option, well it's a take it or leave it proposition. There is virtually no way of getting a better engine or for it to look like something other than a rental vehicle. Funny, that spec once existed.............it was called the Falcon Ute.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by nibble

Have you driven one? No, didn't think so.

Tell me you own a Raptor without telling me you own a Raptor

Its like people who live in Goonawarra in Sunbury, the moment someone has something critical to say all the Goonies come out of the woodwork to defend Goonawarra's honor.

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

My desired Ranger variant doesn't yet exist, and never will. Probably because there aren't many nut jobs like me who would want such a beast.

Lets call it the Ranger DC (Daily Comfort) or Ranger XL P (Premium or Plus) -

- Single cab chassis
- 2WD
- Low ride height (all current gen Rangers are high riders regardless of cab or drivetrain layout)
- EcoBoost 2.3, or EcoBoost 2.7 V6 (don't care which, I'm just sick of diesel)
- 10 speed auto

- XLS exterior package, as in alloy wheels and less black plastic
- XL interior spec, as in vinyl floors
- Leather steering wheel, just because
- Please allow me to choose a colour other than white, black or grey.

For me, I don't daily drive a XL Single Cab Chassis because I'm cheap, but because it's the only model in the range that comes close to fulfilling my requirements. As in, two seats, a huge tray and secure driving dynamics that comes from the low ride height spec.

I have no need for a dual cab and the token gesture tray. I don't need carpet, or leather trim, or automated parking assist. I don't need high ride height to make the vehicle handle like its about to tip over at any moment. I don't want a noisy, all-or-nothing power/torque delivery. And I don't want to buy it for tax evasion purposes.

So, for those who need the single cab/large tray option, well it's a take it or leave it proposition. There is virtually no way of getting a better engine or for it to look like something other than a rental vehicle. Funny, that spec once existed.............it was called the Falcon Ute.

Nutjob, or enlightened?

We're similar in our tastes in music and work vehicles - practicality doesn't mean it has to be a clattery, smelly, noisy and slow piece of shit (see small capacity diesel engines)

I'm also keen on the vinyl floors, I walk across various paddocks, fields and trod in all sorts of excrement as part of my work, which immediately ends up smooshed into the carpet of the vehicle I'm driving.

Love a good dog turd in my carpet, earlier this week it was the human variety from a sewage lagoon, and later this week it was from a horse.

I'm not fussed about povvo spec though, steel wheels are a bit more robust which suits me and my lack of mechanical sympathy.

[.:4:.]

Its probably redundant now, but a few years back there was a mob in queensland that would do coyote conversions on the then bi turbo ranger raptors. Customer had to supply the raptor and a known running mustang coyote. It was not a cheap conversion in the slightest and with the new 3L v6 making a tad less but still comparable power it makes no financial sense.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by .:4:.

Its probably redundant now, but a few years back there was a mob in queensland that would do coyote conversions on the then bi turbo ranger raptors. Customer had to supply the raptor and a known running mustang coyote. It was not a cheap conversion in the slightest and with the new 3L v6 making a tad less but still comparable power it makes no financial sense.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100064636451660

You'll have people who want 8 cylinders and who have the ability to pay for it, they've got a pretty successful business converting Thailand Specials to 8 cylinders.

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100064636451660

You'll have people who want 8 cylinders and who have the ability to pay for it, they've got a pretty successful business converting Thailand Specials to 8 cylinders.

I would assume the RAM and Chev options would have killed V8 conversions.