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Old 24-02-2007, 12:49 AM   #31
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That is just stupid. I think some people just enjoy complaining to the media about things like that. Have they never heard of "advertising puff" which is a concept, funnily enough, derived in law, where there is no real obligation to be totally truthful and literal in advertisements, because it is generally accepted that the public/consumer who sees it can distinguish between reality and fantasy/joke etc...

Like, we KNOW camels and childrren cannot drive. We know that ducks do not do burnouts in toilet bowls. We know that Commodores do not make crop circles in paddocks of wheat.

By removing those kinds of ads, it is basically admitting that we have no common sense and do not have the intelligence of a 5 year old. We lose the responsibility to judge with our own minds on what to think.... the thinking is being done for us.

Dont get me started about school zones though, after the other day, seeing some old guy drive through one doing 60 in the 25 zone, the little girl at the crossing thinking he might stop (she was maybe 6) and with the old guy going way to fast, before he realised she was there and was about to cross at the crossing (which had orange flashing light) and skidded all the way through the crossing. The girl had the sense to hang back on the footpath, but if she HAD crossed as she had a right to do, she would have been clean up by the stupid old guy.

Incidentally, that old guy was up my backside and carrying on behind me as I was doing 25 in the school zone, before I turned off, and saw him overtake me and do that!

Oh yeah, and the idiot in the Skyline who lives in our somewhat windy, peaceful street who thought he would try and drift around the corner, lose it and nearly fly into the front yard of an old couple tending their garden.... but that is off topic... LOL.

Point being, there are other, more important things to worry about IMO, than ads on friggin tv!!!
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Old 24-02-2007, 12:57 AM   #32
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Have they never heard of "advertising puff" which is a concept, funnily enough, derived in law, where there is no real obligation to be totally truthful and literal in advertisements, because it is generally accepted that the public/consumer who sees it can distinguish between reality and fantasy/joke etc...!!!
Would agree about the add in question , but whats your call on 7 advertising a lap in a v8 supercar everynight , when the prize infact a lap in a run of the mill street car with sirens ( the course car ), a winner could say wheres my supercar ride as was promoted.

There has to be a line just not sure where it is ?
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Old 24-02-2007, 10:24 AM   #33
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Political correctness is one of the worst blights imposed on society. It's so beyond a joke, it's not funny.
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Old 24-02-2007, 12:11 PM   #34
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Whats next, they're gonna ban the Toilet Duck ad because of the risk of farm animals crashing their NASCAR while doing burnouts in the toilet bowl!
Well done mate, you made it worth reading this thread!
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Old 24-02-2007, 12:24 PM   #35
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Some things just make ya wanna chuck it all in and go live on a yacht on the high seas.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21270460-2,00.html

Is it just me??
The world is going crazy with PC and all types of 'sabre rattling' at the media. Look if you don't like it turn off the TV. I honestly didn't see anything wrong with the ad.

Car ad's need a bit of humour (this one was ok), the manufacturers can't show the cars going fast or drivers having "the smallest amount of fun".
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Old 24-02-2007, 12:36 PM   #36
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Some people just need to get a life..
My exact thoughts.

OMG that toilet bowl duck joke , what a ripper , I nearly fell of my chair laughing .
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Old 24-02-2007, 02:48 PM   #37
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I complained about the ad that had the Holden ute doing circle work in a paddock to the tune of AC/DC, but only because it was a Holden.
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Old 24-02-2007, 09:32 PM   #38
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How about teaching the kids it's not right.. If they TV is more of a teacher to the child than the parent, doesn't say much about their parenting skills.
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Old 24-02-2007, 09:43 PM   #39
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I complained about the ad that had the Holden ute doing circle work in a paddock to the tune of AC/DC, but only because it was a Holden.

Yeah I agree it was faulse advertising a holden can't really spin the wheels even if it is dirt.
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Old 24-02-2007, 09:46 PM   #40
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Policitcal Correctness is destroying this country, we are afraid to say what we think and we don't think what we say. I blame giving women the vote, but thats just me.
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Old 24-02-2007, 10:40 PM   #41
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There have been plenty of instances where kids left alone in cars have caused trouble. We don't want to make the little kiddies think they can play around in the driver's seat.
You're right. We have to teach 3 year old children to act responsibly. Nevermind teaching their parents to do it.
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Old 26-02-2007, 08:56 AM   #42
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Would agree about the add in question , but whats your call on 7 advertising a lap in a v8 supercar everynight , when the prize infact a lap in a run of the mill street car with sirens ( the course car ), a winner could say wheres my supercar ride as was promoted.
Im certainly not a judge or a lawyer but there's a clear distinction in law between "puffery" (a concept of common law IIRC) and false/misleading/deceptive conduct (under statute... i.e. Trade Practices Act). The former being that one of those mythical "reasonable persons" should be able to tell the difference between nonsense ads and genuine claims, the latter where the claim being made is reasonable and one could expect it to be delivered.

I know most comps like that have an associated licence number, so there may be other legislation/regulators for draws/competitions.

PS. Still cant beleive the overreactions in this thread Destroying the country??? You guys study drama or does it just come naturally??
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Old 26-02-2007, 09:16 AM   #43
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PS. Still cant beleive the overreactions in this thread Destroying the country??? You guys study drama or does it just come naturally??
Yeah, well, OK...maybe not destroying it as such, but definitely making it a less fun and good place to be in. Sure, there are other bigger issues in the world. There always is. We'll leave the problem of solving world poverty and climate change for you to sort out then, whilst we deal with the issues of the impact of political correctness on society...... :

The whinge really isn't that these things cause the world to end, its just that it seems increasingly fashionable to bend over backwards for the loud minority groups in life, virtually no matter how illogical or extreme their views.

Just a bit of a whinge, that's all.
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Old 26-02-2007, 09:56 AM   #44
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Just a bit of a whinge, that's all.
Lol, well considering our head of state is a pom i think there's plenty of scope for whinging

All im saying is that we're free to say whatever we want amoungst our friends and family, which is all i really care about. So i cant speak my mind on national TV... no big deal. Or more the point, i CAN say what i want on national TV, but will be forced to cop the brunt from the "do gooders".

Is this what people REALLY dislike about "PC"?? That someone might dare question their views/opinions? That, should you choose to go around saying and doing what you see fit, someone might actually.... voice their opposition?? In this, a free country??? How dare they?!?!?!?!?

In the TV example, well... someone has the freedom to depict a todler driving a car. People have the freedom to complain if they think it's inappropriate. If the advertising standards people buckle after a handful of complaints... who should your frustrations be directed towards... the do gooders who complain or the ASB that pulls an add after a small number of disgruntled do gooders?

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Political correctness is one of the worst blights imposed on society. It's so beyond a joke, it's not funny.
Political correctness (if you must give it a name) is a by product of any society where people have the level of freedom that we do. Ive got the freedom to call an indigenous person an "abbo" if i really want to... anyone else has the freedom to tell me i sound like a racist pr*ck for doing so, if they want to.

It's not imposed - it's inherent. And for crying out loud, it's not the end of the world lol.
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Old 26-02-2007, 11:02 AM   #45
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Well I am going to buck the populast trend here:
1) When I first saw the ad, I though it was funny yet slightly irresponsible, why the hell would you show toddlers driving a car? Monkey see, monkey do.
2) It isn't the end of the free world like some of you drama queens are making it out to be...Do I think it should have been pulled? Yes. Would I have bothered complaining about it? No.
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Old 26-02-2007, 11:24 AM   #46
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Two year olds can & have driven cars/utes ..... my eldest drove Dad's right through the back of the shed !!!!!!!!! OK yes dad wasnt in the ute, the choke was on and he was warming it ..... column shift auto & a two yr old who loved cars even back then & off he went .........

Im by no way a do-gooder as most would know & no I didnt complain about the ad ..... It was that stupid it wasnt worth the cost of the call ........
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Old 26-02-2007, 11:29 AM   #47
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So, 80 complaints can get something you don't like off the telly?

My God, armed with this knowledge, members of this forum, we can:-
1. Get rid of Deal or no Deal
2. Ban all TV interviews with Julia Gillard
3. Remove the Kelly brothers & Skaife from V8 Supercars
4. Make all political broadcasts allowable between the hours of midnight and 12.01am
5. Free up more telly time for car racing by banning all coverage of Britney Spears/Robbie Williams (insert next celebrity here)or anyone that has admitted themselves for "rehab"
6. Make it a criminal offence to have those midnight "phone now to win 14 cents" game shows hosted by that Hotdogs peanut.
7. Immediate scrapping of all Datsun 120Y's, Holden Camiras and Leyland Marinas that belch more oil smoke than the Exxon Valdez.
8. Make old fashioned avgas available for all to enjoy!
9. Ban all singing/dancing talent shows, and put the judges in celebrity boxing matches. Now that I'd watch...
10. Actually spend petrol taxes on roads cigarette taxes on health to help save lives...

Oops, back to work....and the real world
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Old 26-02-2007, 12:47 PM   #48
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Is this what people REALLY dislike about "PC"?? That someone might dare question their views/opinions? That, should you choose to go around saying and doing what you see fit, someone might actually.... voice their opposition?? In this, a free country??? How dare they?!?!?!?!?

It's not imposed - it's inherent. And for crying out loud, it's not the end of the world lol.
Righteo, that's fine, but the difference is that I (and many others) don't go around effectively forcing our attitudes/opionions on others. So, I disagree with you to an extent that you say it isn't imposed, because we're progressively finding out that it is. Whether its a school telling all the parents that Christian Christmas decorations can't be used, or that kids aren't allowed to play cowboys & indians or play poison ball anymore etc......that's 'imposed' in my book.

No, not the end of the world I agree. But does it have to be in order to warrant a bit of discussion?

PS. Regarding your example, you'd be had up for racial vilification in Victoria at least (under law), so I'd argue that you're not free to say that at all actually.
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Old 26-02-2007, 01:01 PM   #49
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I thought that commercial was very clever and oh so cute...

I can't blame them for taking it off the air....There must be so many male toddlers must want the car now so they can go pick up toddler chicks n take em to the beach....

Sante Fe's need a sticker saying "Don't laugh..your toddler could be driving this car"

OK Seriously what we have here is ANOTHER exmaple of:

The minority ruling the majority
Do gooders getting off on imposing b/s rules on the rest of society
Common sense disapearing and being replaced with....well....rules

Question: What in the hell did we used to do BEFORE the do-gooders got so much power and protected us all from such evils as TV ads??

Is this agism? If the male toddler had been 21 and the female toddler 21 would there be such an outcry? No....so it must be agism.

They should reshoot the add using 80 year olds...just to make a point.
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Old 26-02-2007, 01:54 PM   #50
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The 1st time i saw that add on tv i knew a whole bunch of idiots would complain *shakes head*
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Old 27-02-2007, 11:27 AM   #51
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I must admit, when I first saw the ad I just knew there was going to be some serial whingers mounting their high horse over it.

I dont agree with them though at all, and I reckon there is at least 80 people that need to be de-sexed asap. Whilst also fun, this ad is BLATANT fantasy, and is utterly unreproducable. Where are these sooks for the Captiva ad which shows a guy driving up the side of a building and free falling through a roof and all manner of other bulls*it? (just for example, not an attack on the Holden ad itself)

These people need to reassess their lives and consider if complaining about a farfetched 15 second TV ad is really worth the 25 cents.

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From memory there were 2 (? possibly more I think) young children who died in separate instances in Melbourne over summer. They crawled into unlocked cars left in the sun and inadvertantly locked themselves in.

My understanding is the ad's were pulled mainly due to the risk of further children doing this.

In this respect, I have compassion for the parents of those children. These ad's came out after the events. It would be a horrible reminder of an appalling accident.
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Old 27-02-2007, 02:53 PM   #53
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exactly !! its a stupid ad, not clever at all.
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