New Tow Tug ,What to Buy?

[351LTD]

Be interesting if the prices do come down when the 300 comes out or the fact that there is no v8 option may keep the second hand price up,also will the faithful trade there v8 in for the new 6 or maybe 4 we will see ? My timing is all wrong with the dmax kms increasing along with the cost and availability of most things,maybe just keep driving it for ever!!!

[XR Martin]

Can't see the V8 cruiser losing desirability, look at the value of the old turbo 6s in the 100 series.
Still see the last ones advertised for $50k.

[gaz084]

We have just bought a ssangyong musso,it has 3500t towing and a 1t payload for the tub with the leaf springs,its 890kg rated for the 5 link coil suspension.

https://ssangyong.com.au/models/musso/

They are great value for what you get from the south korean car manufacturer and good owners reviews.

We paid $42,000 for the musso ultimate xlv,its a big ute 100mm shorter than the dodge ram.

The high strength steel that they use in there chassis is what gives it the 3.5t towing capabilities.

on the highway it sits on anywhere between 7.4l/100 to 9l/100 and around 10-11 in town.

we towed a 2.7t caravan back from ballina to sydney and it went very well the fuel economy was between 15-16l/100.

with the cruise control on,the biggest hill slowed the ute down 15km under set speed limit.

[gaz084]

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[351LTD]

Yes looked a them at the Iveco agent when I went there,they look ok ,not sure on the 120kw 2l ,ok I suspect for up to 2.7t towing but same problems as the other dualcabs when you get over that,may be a replacement for the Isuzu with the grey set now that's increased in price .

[XR Martin]

Interior is flash in the Ssangyong (probably best of all) , but their durability leaves alot to be desired. Dealer network is pretty thin on the ground also.

[Pis-ton broke]

go and get a company car, my dad used to say, company cars can do anything and go anywhere. its true.

[gaz084]

The 2.2l engine is 133kw and 420nm,I was impressed with how well it performed...plenty of power for overtaking and towing.and I would say it wouldn't have any problem with 3.5t on my experience with it towing 2.7t.
But no it isn't a sports car.

As for durability,they offer one of the best warranties in the market with 7 years unlimited km and fixed service pricing.

I agree with the dealer network,there are only 3 in Sydney which suits us,as we are only down the road...but if there is ever any problems with the vehicle ssangyong will back there product and search for a local mechanic to do the work under there warranty and parts.

We are happy with our purchase,my dad has owned 3 ssangyongs in the past and never had any troubles with them.
I was set on getting the ranger,they still look the best in my opinion but the price difference and warranty was hard to pass up...if anyone is still a bit skeptical,book in a test drive I think you would be impressed.

[351LTD]

I am sure it can tow 3.5t as my dmax can but not sure on safety or the legality of it doing so (have not checked its specs ,weights and size etc),did like the look of it with the Mags etc for the price,looked good and I am sure you will have No issues with it either.

[Bossxr8]

Ssangyong is in the middle of bankruptcy. Would you seriously consider buying a car from a company going bankrupt?

https://pulsenews.co.kr/view.php?year=2021&no=113600

[Tassie f100]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Ssangyong is in the middle of bankruptcy. Would you seriously consider buying a car from a company going bankrupt?

https://pulsenews.co.kr/view.php?year=2021&no=113600

Think some buyers use price as a guide and hope that the backup is there if needed.personally I question why people were so keen to buy Falcons when Ford said they were closing down.Manfacturers only have an obligation to supply spares for a limited amount of time, we are now hearing of some parts already N.L.A whilst the cars are still good and not really all that old.Who knows what Ford might think of the Oz market in years to come,they may do like GM and walk away.The threat of a $10m fine won’t worry them at all

[gaz084]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Ssangyong is in the middle of bankruptcy. Would you seriously consider buying a car from a company going bankrupt?

https://pulsenews.co.kr/view.php?year=2021&no=113600

They are in a receivership,I dought it will end in bankruptcy...but if it did,the warranty would still be valid threw the dealership.

[Tassie f100]

Originally Posted by gaz084

They are in a receivership,I dought it will end in bankruptcy...but if it did,the warranty would still be valid threw the dealership.

IF the dealer has access to parts!! i presume you mean through the dealer not threw.The problem with receivership is that the receiver will sell off everything, and often the parts stock gets sold to an independent party, which has no liablilty to supply parts to the dealer or the customer.Parts may be available but at your cost not the dealers.And prices will most likely double or triple the current list price

[gaz084]

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

IF the dealer has access to parts!! i presume you mean through the dealer not threw.The problem with receivership is that the receiver will sell off everything, and often the parts stock gets sold to an independent party, which has no liablilty to supply parts to the dealer or the customer.Parts may be available but at your cost not the dealers.And prices will most likely double or triple the current list price

Yes good point the parts are the big question mark....but with parts all you need to do is find the part number and the manufacturer of that part,most of the time the parts used are common parts used in a wide variety of different vehicles.

Now i feel like a ssangyong salesman lol,my main point here before this gets into a debate and leads of topic,is that we are happy with our purchase and would recommend this vehicle to others,and from personal experience with this vehicle i would back the 3500kg towing capability.

[Tassie f100]

Originally Posted by gaz084

Yes good point the parts are the big question mark....but with parts all you need to do is find the part number and the manufacturer of that part,most of the time the parts used are common parts used in a wide variety of different vehicles.

Now i feel like a ssangyong salesman lol,my main point here before this gets into a debate and leads of topic,is that we are happy with our purchase and would recommend this vehicle to others,and from personal experience with this vehicle i would back the 3500kg towing capability.

The main thing is that you are happy with your purchase and I sincerely hope you don’t have any warranty experiences like I outlined

[XR Martin]

Knew someone who bought a JMC ute, engine died inside warranty. But the company doesn't exist here anymore!
Original selling dealer ended up helping them out, but took 6 months for it to be back on the road.

[smoo]

Have you seen 4xoverland YouTube channel? A WA based Pom who from memory has done a few videos on the 4x4 Daily.
180hp and 430nm is around the same as a 70 series. The Iveco will probably use half the fuel and go just as well.

[351LTD]

Looking at the van version ,the 4x 4 s dollar wise get up there real quick .Vans payload is 1.9t and tows 3.5t ,as we live in the caravan full time .space for stuff is always a problem hence the van idea and they drive real nice.Years gone by had a transit for the boys mx and we went all over in that and loved it so we will see.

[Tassie f100]

Buy one hell of a lot of petrol for the difference in cost of the Patrol compared to a 200.I presume somewhere around $80k compared to well over $100 for a Cruiser.The Patrol might use a bit more fuel but diesel seems to be dearer than petrol so your $/km might not be a lot different

[Gumboot]

Have a watch of this, it shows there is basically no difference in fuel consumption between the Toyota Landcrusier 200 and the Nissan Patrol Y62. I have mates with both that we 4wd with and this is what we see as well. Too many ill-informed fanboys out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQvlTzMXvdo

[351LTD]

I will just enjoy my 300kws of petrol v8 rather than worry about dirty diesels!!!!

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by 351LTD

I will just enjoy my 300kws of petrol v8 rather than worry about dirty diesels!!!!

One DPF replacement could buy you enough fuel to drive around the country. Almost.
I can't see myself in a diesel at the moment. Petrol is the way to go. I would love a y62 as my next car.

[Swordie]

We need some pics now. Congratulation on your purchase and enjoy.

[wodahs]

the main things i liked my diesel above my petrol v8 4wds
is i can get diesel in more out the way places when i go touring (even to the fact that ive needed to borrow from a station and the odd truckie when under estimating where i went off road
and the off road soft sand or hard surface soft under (when you break thru the surface layer) 4wd'ing is i dont have to rev the petrol in fear of it stalling as apposed to lower reving more torque diesel same situation
other wise i was more than happy with the f truck and explorer v8 4wds ive had

[janddbone]

Good choice.

[Hemihunter]

My 2014 6.2 Raptor F-150 S/C -S/E is for sale ....



https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...gType=showcase

[351LTD]

Was a little hopeful of having it before Easter but not to be ,working anyhow so did not try to hard.Can look at y62 exhaust and supercharger vidios instead!!

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by 351LTD

Was a little hopeful of having it before Easter but not to be ,working anyhow so did not try to hard.Can look at y62 exhaust and supercharger vidios instead!!

Local company here Manta Performance does some stuff for Y62

https://www.mantapro.com.au/product/...-petrol-wagon/

https://www.mantapro.com.au/video-gallery/

Couple videos down - 20hp gain?

Also Harrop if you don't mind getting your cheeks clapped with their pricing.

[351LTD]

Found a old school exhaust guy awhile back who does a good job and charges you what he told you before he starts.

[smoo]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Local company here Manta Performance does some stuff for Y62

https://www.mantapro.com.au/product/...-petrol-wagon/

https://www.mantapro.com.au/video-gallery/

Couple videos down - 20hp gain?

Also Harrop if you don't mind getting your cheeks clapped with their pricing.

20 hp gain in one of them, will be like those obese women who order a trim latte or trim flat white while buying a muffin or slice to have with it.
They have the illusion it's making a difference. Reality says otherwise.

OP, have you seen what 200 series are selling for...
If you bought when you started this thread you could cash in and upgrade/side step to a Ram 2500.