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Old 25-09-2005, 11:19 PM   #1
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Default 3 Q's RE: g/box crossmember, tailshaft and brake booster

G'day,

Just 3 questions tonight that I havent been able to find info about.....

1) Is the gearbox crossmember used in the 6cyl EB with the BTR 4spd the same as that used by the EB V8 with the same gearbox?

2) Is the tailshaft of the EB 6cyl auto the same as the EB V8 auto?

3) What is a complete reconditioned EB2 XR6/XR8 brake booster worth?

Thanks a lot

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Twin 2.25 into Single 2.5in
17in x 8in BA XR8 Copies
235x45x17 Nankang NSII
Ultra Low King springs
Whiteline 30mm Swaybar
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Old 26-09-2005, 11:48 AM   #2
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1) may not be any use to you but in my manual conversion we just turned mine around and used the other set of bolt holes. Apart from that I don't know sorry

2) Tailshafts are secific lenghts to suit the body. So basically if the tailshaft is from a SWB it will fit if it goes back into a SWB regardless of transmission. Theres a lot of information around (some of it conflicting) as to what the tailshafts are made of for certain cars. The V8's usually have an alloy one, so if you are tryig to get the car up to scratch for the engineer it might pay to look for an alloy one. I don't know howfussy they are on that sort of thing

3) I have bought one for $50 and recently resold it for $50. was not reconditioned just 2nd hand. Up to $100 would be normal but pushing the high side.
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Old 27-09-2005, 07:31 PM   #3
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Great, thanks for that info NZ, it is quite helpful.
I'll try to stick to the 6 cyl tailshaft but I will be using safety loops, just to be sure anyway.

My other questions are as follows.....

1) Is the V8 starter motor on the BTR auto the same as the 6cyl?
If not, how much will I pay for a new/reco one?

2) How much is a V8 altenator? will it supploy enough power for the following electrical components........ 3 thermo fans, 1 electric water pump, 2 fuel pumps, EFI, Head lights, wind screen wipers?

How much is a high amperage model going to set me back?



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17in x 8in BA XR8 Copies
235x45x17 Nankang NSII
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Whiteline 30mm Swaybar
Nolathane box section trailing arms
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Old 27-09-2005, 07:47 PM   #4
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No the V8 and 6cyl are different. The V8 used 3 mount points, the 6cyl 2.

You'll need a 110 amp alternator for sure running the fans, electric water pump and an extra fuel pump. AN EF/EL one will fit with some mods to the bracket. I fitted one to my eb, it almost fits just needed a bit ground off the bracket. The ef/el alts only have a single plug where the eb has 2, one being a small one with a yellow wire from memory. Its just an external circuit of some sort thats been integrated into the ef/el alt so youd just tape up the extra plug.

Some cheap starter motors on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Brand-new-Gea...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-FORD-GEAR...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Ford-Windsor-...QQcmdZViewItem

That last one it states its for a manual only. I don't know why that is as When I converted my car i used the orginal starter motor. I also recenly bought a new one from ebay for around $170 its going great.
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Old 27-09-2005, 11:43 PM   #5
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No the V8 and 6cyl are different. The V8 used 3 mount points, the 6cyl 2.

You'll need a 110 amp alternator for sure running the fans, electric water pump and an extra fuel pump. AN EF/EL one will fit with some mods to the bracket. I fitted one to my eb, it almost fits just needed a bit ground off the bracket. The ef/el alts only have a single plug where the eb has 2, one being a small one with a yellow wire from memory. Its just an external circuit of some sort thats been integrated into the ef/el alt so youd just tape up the extra plug.

Some cheap starter motors on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Brand-new-Gea...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-FORD-GEAR...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Ford-Windsor-...QQcmdZViewItem

That last one it states its for a manual only. I don't know why that is as When I converted my car i used the orginal starter motor. I also recenly bought a new one from ebay for around $170 its going great.

Thanks again NZ,
Does the EL V8 type altenator use the same sort of plug as the 6 cyl? (single plug)

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Twin 2.25 into Single 2.5in
17in x 8in BA XR8 Copies
235x45x17 Nankang NSII
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Whiteline 30mm Swaybar
Nolathane box section trailing arms
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Old 28-09-2005, 12:17 AM   #6
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Yes they do. The outer casings however are different. A 6cyl alt will plug into an 8cyl loom but the alt won't bolt onto the motor
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Old 28-09-2005, 12:38 AM   #7
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Yes they do. The outer casings however are different. A 6cyl alt will plug into an 8cyl loom but the alt won't bolt onto the motor
Righto, Because I am running the old 6 cyl power loom with the new V8. Either way, it shouldnt need too much work to get going. I'll be on the hunt for a 110A altenator now, which by my calculations, should be ample. Bloody lot of power tho!
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Twin 2.25 into Single 2.5in
17in x 8in BA XR8 Copies
235x45x17 Nankang NSII
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Whiteline 30mm Swaybar
Nolathane box section trailing arms
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Old 28-09-2005, 06:42 PM   #8
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Well, I might as well add another question to the thread..........

* Is the O2 sensor on the EB2 I6 the same as two on the EB2 V8?


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Twin 2.25 into Single 2.5in
17in x 8in BA XR8 Copies
235x45x17 Nankang NSII
Ultra Low King springs
Whiteline 30mm Swaybar
Nolathane box section trailing arms
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Old 28-09-2005, 09:16 PM   #9
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Hell, why not another one......... Saves starting a new thread.....

Does the V8 auto gearbox have the same splined output shaft as the I6 Auto?



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17in x 8in BA XR8 Copies
235x45x17 Nankang NSII
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Whiteline 30mm Swaybar
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Old 29-09-2005, 05:54 PM   #10
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Wanted to buy,

EBV8 starter motor and EBV8 O2 sensors. QLD please


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Hi Tek Headers Tri Y
Twin 2.25 into Single 2.5in
17in x 8in BA XR8 Copies
235x45x17 Nankang NSII
Ultra Low King springs
Whiteline 30mm Swaybar
Nolathane box section trailing arms
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Well, I might as well add another question to the thread..........

* Is the O2 sensor on the EB2 I6 the same as two on the EB2 V8?


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In terms of voltage outputs it is. The plug may not be.
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Hell, why not another one......... Saves starting a new thread.....

Does the V8 auto gearbox have the same splined output shaft as the I6 Auto?



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Yes. the boxes are very similar. The input shaft is the big difference I6 -> V8
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Wanted to buy,

EBV8 starter motor and EBV8 O2 sensors. QLD please


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I can help you with the sensors. I have some spare from the donk I bought. theyre 150,000k old. If it were me I'd just be buying new. People have said on here they have got them for 80 - 90 bucks (non ford). Starter motor - can't help, I like to have spares on hand
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I can help you with the sensors. I have some spare from the donk I bought. theyre 150,000k old. If it were me I'd just be buying new. People have said on here they have got them for 80 - 90 bucks (non ford). Starter motor - can't help, I like to have spares on hand

Geez, thanks (yet again) for your responses, I should re-name it the "NZ and ScoopED chat room". Nah, seriously, much appreciated.

Do you know where these $90 O2 sensors were purchased from?


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351cu in Windsor Roller Cam
Valve Body "Shift Kitted" BTR 4spd Auto
Hi Tek Headers Tri Y
Twin 2.25 into Single 2.5in
17in x 8in BA XR8 Copies
235x45x17 Nankang NSII
Ultra Low King springs
Whiteline 30mm Swaybar
Nolathane box section trailing arms
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