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Old 12-09-2010, 05:34 PM   #61
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Yeah as if ford are going to bring the engine into play with max power output on the table from day 1

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Holden not worried why should they be the SC 5.0 is an FPV vehicle not Ford so it isnt any competition
Holden are worried about their ancient pushrod V8 so they are trying to round off their 'package' to compensate by offering brake packages


Yeah right, lets see how many buyers take up the option of this package, Ford tried it and it never worked this will be like
I noticed you didn't bring my comment about fuel consumption into play which is what I was really talking about.... For their power, engine size, new design and fantastic 6 speed zf (which is crap in buses however lol) their fuel consumption its quite on the poor size. This is where I meant they could have done better. I'm sure there's a lot more left in them. No doubt in fact.

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Old 12-09-2010, 07:55 PM   #62
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I noticed you didn't bring my comment about fuel consumption into play which is what I was really talking about.... For their power, engine size, new design and fantastic 6 speed zf (which is crap in buses however lol) their fuel consumption its quite on the poor size. This is where I meant they could have done better. I'm sure there's a lot more left in them. No doubt in fact.

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And buyers of these cars consider fuel economy when?
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Old 12-09-2010, 08:22 PM   #63
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And buyers of these cars consider fuel economy when?
Usually when you are filling up, then once you start the car again, you forget about it.

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Old 12-09-2010, 08:57 PM   #64
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Usually when you are filling up, then once you start the car again, you forget about it.

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Spot on mate they dont care
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Old 12-09-2010, 10:08 PM   #65
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So what about the people that don't buy them because of running expenses but really want one.....

What a bucket of **** comment that is. People buy V8's for performance yes, sound.. not to mention towing or simply because they can. You Seriousley think none of the people that drive V8's care about fuel consumption. Your seriously mistaken.

But you missed my point all over again, they could have done better with consumption, if this was a new engine HSV was bringing out everyone would be saying it's not better enough.

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So what about the people that don't buy them because of running expenses but really want one.....

What a bucket of **** comment that is. People buy V8's for performance yes, sound.. not to mention towing or simply because they can. You Seriousley think none of the people that drive V8's care about fuel consumption. Your seriously mistaken.

But you missed my point all over again, they could have done better with consumption, if this was a new engine HSV was bringing out everyone would be saying it's not better enough.

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You cant make power without burning fuel... not withstanding gains in efficiency you still need to burn more fuel to make more power...
AFM shows just that with the corresponding loss of power with the improvement of 0.1l/100k's...



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So what about the people that don't buy them because of running expenses but really want one.....
Well that is just stupid, if they dont buy one because they cant afford running costs well that takes them out of the equation.

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What a bucket of **** comment that is. People buy V8's for performance yes, sound.. not to mention towing or simply because they can. You Seriousley think none of the people that drive V8's care about fuel consumption. Your seriously mistaken.
This is getting off topic.

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But you missed my point all over again, they could have done better with consumption, if this was a new engine HSV was bringing out everyone would be saying it's not better enough.Stoney!
See 4Vmans point above, but once again this isnt about fuel economy its about suspension and brake upgrades being offered.
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Old 12-09-2010, 10:53 PM   #68
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Bah, no point fighting the one eyed monsters. As a Car industry enthusiast as a whole, and not supporting any one brand, except maybe VWAG. There's nothing clouding my judgment that the ford inline six is a brilliant engine, and the ZF is spectacular (to be expected) but I just don't see anything overly superior or spectacular in the design of the V8 for a brand new donk...... sorry.

Carry on convincing yourselves, I'm outta here for now.

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Bah, no point fighting the one eyed monsters. As a Car industry enthusiast as a whole, and not supporting any one brand, except maybe VWAG. There's nothing clouding my judgment that the ford inline six is a brilliant engine, and the ZF is spectacular (to be expected) but I just don't see anything overly superior or spectacular in the design of the V8 for a brand new donk...... sorry.

Carry on convincing yourselves, I'm outta here for now.

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i have nothing clouding my judgement i dont even have a RWD car . Im not one eyed either
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Thumbs up on the cheap brakes. Not sure on the 19" wheels though. All the talk of being 19 inch looks to be marketing spin. If i was in the market i'd be trying to ditch them for the standard 18's if they still fit over the bigger brakes.
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i have nothing clouding my judgement i dont even have a RWD car . Im not one eyed either
So the T series is gone?

You were the last mod with a T so is it ok to start picking on them again?
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Old 13-09-2010, 01:26 PM   #72
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So the T series is gone?

You were the last mod with a T so is it ok to start picking on them again?
no

We wont go there but yes its gone
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You forgot Tasmania.


tasmania is a state of the commonwealth of australia, idiot
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tasmania is a state of the commonwealth of australia, idiot
Your not good with humor are you?
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Your not good with humor are you?
i enjoy comedy movies now and again
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Your not good with humor are you?
Humour is often lost on those that can not read between the lines
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Old 13-09-2010, 06:55 PM   #78
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Humour is often lost on those that can not read between the lines
Which would be hard to read with a one liner? (I get what ya mean..hehe) I reckon blind freddy could have seen that one.
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Gee thank's for that little bit of info mate, I can sleep better tonight
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Anyway moving on
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Gee thank's for that little bit of info mate, I can sleep better tonight
then why would you even bother writting it? i could say oh canberra is not the capital city of australia but we all know it is so why would i say its not? or the falcon is not made in australia? why state what is obviously wrong? that is not humor just stupidity. come on mate think!!!!
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then why would you even bother writting it? i could say oh canberra is not the capital city of australia but we all know it is so why would i say its not? or the falcon is not made in australia? why state what is obviously wrong? that is not humor just stupidity. come on mate think!!!!
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then why would you even bother writting it? i could say oh canberra is not the capital city of australia but we all know it is so why would i say its not? or the falcon is not made in australia? why state what is obviously wrong? that is not humor just stupidity. come on mate think!!!!
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