Holden to cut more jobs

[Jason[98.EL]]

Originally Posted by PHawk

Be a sad day to see both Falcon and Commodore gone within the next few years, we have all grown up with both, loved and hated both, christ how can we live with out them!!!

agreed

it is not looking good with Holden getting rid of their design engineers unfortunately the writing is on the wall we will not see an aussie designed and built car here in the not to distant future

[nstg8a]

Originally Posted by Silver Ghia

According to todays Herald Sun newspaper (can't find it on the net), the staff being made redundant are close to 45 design engineers.

Nothing to do with improving the efficiency of the present operation. They are winding down their engineering capabilities.

Which says to me there won't be any more locally designed Holdens.

Quite different to the Ford situation where they have actually been taking on more design engineers for Fords global engineering.

Holden Commodore as we have seen it, wont exist in a few years. Nor local engineering by Holden, except for maybe tweeking cars designed elsewhere.

Yah hard for even the staunchest of Holden supporters to deny there's an end coming for the locally built commodore if they are letting go their design staff.

Sad days are coming.

[olds]

All over for Holden after the election result and Toyota wont be far behind

[Rodge]

Originally Posted by PHawk

how can we live with out them!!!

End of an era is coming that's for sure mate and it is very, very sad, no question about it.

The answer to your question is that I believe people will take one of three options, and to be honest I'm undecided on which :-

1. Reserve their high performance FPV / HSV for special occasion and weekend use only and buy a cheap daily to avoid putting miles on their special car thereby significantly extending its lifespan.

2. Just keep driving it as usual and update with another brand when it suits them.

3. React to this landmark change in the market, AKA spitting the dummy, and buy something else sooner rather than later, (see my thread on the Jaguar XFR where around 75% of poeple would either sign up no questions asked if they had access to one at a fair price and could afford it, or compare it to their high powered Australian performance car).

Huge change coming in the motoring landscape in Australasia...it just won't be the same...

[zilo]

Originally Posted by olds

All over for Holden after the election result and Toyota wont be far behind

Absolutely spot on.

[stazza]

Good riddance. Dole out the government money they received most recently, give it to all the workers they ****** over, and shut up shop once and for all.

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by stazza

Good riddance. Dole out the government money they received most recently, give it to all the workers they ****** over, and shut up shop once and for all.

I expected nothing less...

[stazza]

Originally Posted by Nikked

I expected nothing less...

I'm not one to disappoint.

[BHDOGS]

[stazza]

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[Rodge]

Some of you guys just don't seem to get it...If Holden fail, Ford will close even earlier than would otherwise be the case. I would have thought it's pretty obvious that's a lose-lose for everyone...

[stazza]

I already own my last modern falcon.

[Bent8]

Originally Posted by Rodge

Some of you guys just don't seem to get it...If Holden fail, Ford will close even earlier than would otherwise be the case. I would have thought it's pretty obvious that's a lose-lose for everyone...

I can tell you right now mate, the Falcon will not make it to 2016, regardless of what happens to Holden in the meantime.

Economic conditions are a LOT worse than the media is reporting and it will continue to get worse at an expontential rate.

We can't blame Ford or Holden for what they are doing in order to survive in todays marketplace... what's happening is part of a much larger agenda which I won't go into here.

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by Bent8

I can tell you right now mate, the Falcon will not make it to 2016, regardless of what happens to Holden in the meantime.

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Where is this "not making it" crap coming from, the 2014 falcon is happening. Its been paid for, the upgrades are done, there are still employees who still have jobs.


When the last falcon actually rolls down the line you can cheer...

[Rodge]

Originally Posted by stazza

I already own my last modern falcon.

And mine is probably my last one too but there's other people who might want the opportunity to buy one of the last Australian made performance cars so who wins if they close down early...nobody.

Why beat up on Holden for trying to make their business as viable as possible ?

[Gobes32]

Originally Posted by Bent8

I can tell you right now mate, the Falcon will not make it to 2016, regardless of what happens to Holden in the meantime.

There is a tooling manager going overseas to sign off on a couple of million dollars worth of new dies who may disagree, but alas, I am sure you know best.........

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Nikked

When the last falcon actually rolls down the line you can cheer...

Maybe it might just get a better reception than the last Fairlane to roll off the line.