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Old 20-03-2021, 11:23 PM   #1
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Just reflecting on flooding currently around in NSW, will this result in another slight shortage of used cars, pushing up price?
Doubt it, more like a sudden rise in good quality definitely never been flooded second hand cars hitting the market..........
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Doubt it, more like a sudden rise in good quality definitely never been flooded second hand cars hitting the market..........
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LV Focus XR5 values are abnormally high, even pre COVID they were still holding better resale value than Fiesta ST for example.

Wonder if it's because the unique Volvo 5 cylinder engine is a bit special compared to run of the mill 4 cylinder engines.

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LV Focus XR5 values are abnormally high, even pre COVID they were still holding better resale value than Fiesta ST for example.

Wonder if it's because the unique Volvo 5 cylinder engine is a bit special compared to run of the mill 4 cylinder engines.
They're the P-Platers weapon of choice around here, a good one in the future may hold some value as a nostalgia piece to these kids. I'm seeing them from 10-15k at the moment.

Watching XR4's listed at 5k and taking a while to sell, might be time to pick up a track day beater me thinks
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They're the P-Platers weapon of choice around here, a good one in the future may hold some value as a nostalgia piece to these kids. I'm seeing them from 10-15k at the moment.

Watching XR4's listed at 5k and taking a while to sell, might be time to pick up a track day beater me thinks
Back in my day when I bought my LV TDCI Focus the XR5 was on the banned list for P platers

Thats the only reason I bought the TDCI instead

Bastards! The kids these days have it easy!

Theres a P plater working at my local Maccas with the hero colour XR5 in orange and there's two locally in white near my work.
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Bastards! The kids these days have it easy!
Tell me about it, with a few mods as they all do, they're spanking my Falcon and giving it the chop chop finger gesture out the window... no respect
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Tell me about it, with a few mods as they all do, they're spanking my Falcon and giving it the chop chop finger gesture out the window... no respect
They sound wicked too with an exhaust:

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Back in my day when I bought my LV TDCI Focus the XR5 was on the banned list for P platers

Thats the only reason I bought the TDCI instead

Bastards! The kids these days have it easy!

Theres a P plater working at my local Maccas with the hero colour XR5 in orange and there's two locally in white near my work.
He's in WA. They don't have these restrictions.

They are still banned in the nanny state. I have noticed a lot of P platers getting around in banned P plater vehicles lately though. Seen a Golf R, GTI, G6E Turbo and VE SS with P plates on recently. Obviously don't give a damn.
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Back in my day when I bought my LV TDCI Focus the XR5 was on the banned list for P platers

Thats the only reason I bought the TDCI instead

Bastards! The kids these days have it easy!

Theres a P plater working at my local Maccas with the hero colour XR5 in orange and there's two locally in white near my work.
I got my P's 3 months before they rolled out the bans on turbo petrols, high performance 6's and v8s and modified cars. So whilst my mates were stuck in v6 commodores and sss pulsars, i was able to do the v8 thing. Namely an hsv 304 efi swapped kingswood ute and a 308 swapped uc torana. Plus the alcho booze limit for a P plater for me was not 0. It was 0.02. Yeah i used to get pulled up all the time having p plates on a v8 for licence checks and they always did breathos, but i never lost a point. But i had a mate who got tboned in his subaru leone. He blew 0.0016 and ended up with a court ordered 7 year $55k loan to pay for the forester xt that hit him. And a driving ban.
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Here's a very similar, clean little VSIII ute to the one just up on this thread:

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/clay...ity/1268720316

Sure it looks shinier, but 13,900 as opposed to around 3,209?!

It's got 212K on the clock as opposed to 238K, but no bar or canopy - will someone pay the price?
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Also, the greatest survivor XH pannelly in the country:

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...-7122739/?Cr=0

(what an options combo! If only you could factory spec new something like this today...)

Sold!
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Looked at a 2018 Ford Escape st line with 30k on it for 32k + on roads. Then went and had a look at a brand new Escape for $36668 drive away.

Add stamp duty and rego to the used one and its $34k vs $36668 for new. Different model levels but the new one is specced every bit as well.

Who in their right mind would buy the used one, yet the used dealer wouldn't budge on price. When he rang the next day to pester me further I gladly informed him we'd bought new. He asked on the wait time and I said I'd found a dealer with one in stock. He was quite surprised.

I think the used guys are very much aware of the supply issues with new cars and hoping that people won't want to endure the wait times to order a new one.
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Also, the greatest survivor XH pannelly in the country:

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...-7122739/?Cr=0

(what an options combo! If only you could factory spec new something like this today...)

Sold!

Yep, already gone.
Do you recall what they were asking for it?
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Also, the greatest survivor XH pannelly in the country:

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...-7122739/?Cr=0

(what an options combo! If only you could factory spec new something like this today...)

Sold!
I only just saw this, what money was on it?

Disregard, I just read further through the thread.
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LV Focus XR5 values are abnormally high, even pre COVID they were still holding better resale value than Fiesta ST for example.

Wonder if it's because the unique Volvo 5 cylinder engine is a bit special compared to run of the mill 4 cylinder engines.
They are hit and miss.

Some high kms.
Others low.
I'm aware of one where a dude will be asking 26k.

30k odd kms
Leather.
I know I'd rather an XR5 than an ST.
Sadly they are now in the grasp of a p plater fitting stupid crackle maps to them.

I definitely miss mine


Not being biased.
But various turbo falcons seem to be sort after too now for some reason.
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They are hit and miss.

Some high kms.
Others low.
I'm aware of one where a dude will be asking 26k.

30k odd kms
Leather.
I know I'd rather an XR5 than an ST.
Sadly they are now in the grasp of a p plater fitting stupid crackle maps to them.

I definitely miss mine


Not being biased.
But various turbo falcons seem to be sort after too now for some reason.
Yeah, same here XR5 is unique compared to the others.

I notice Mondeo XR5 is significantly cheaper, as in to the tune of $5000, I guess if you want the same engine but don't mind the extra car you get for less money that's a good option, plus more likely to be owned/driven by stale old man.

There's some other interesting JDM stuff that's now poor value - JZS161 Toyota Aristo is circa $20K-$25K which are up $7K-$10K on 2019 prices.

That particular car, you'd be better off buying a BA-BF XR6T which is better value because you get the Barra turbo instead of the 2JZGTE, an extra 1000cc and already has a single turbo instead of the compound twins.

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Yeah, same here XR5 is unique compared to the others.

I notice Mondeo XR5 is significantly cheaper, as in to the tune of $5000, I guess if you want the same engine but don't mind the extra car that's a good option.

There's some other interesting JDM stuff that's now poor value - JZS161 Toyota Aristo is circa $20K-$25K which are up $7K-$10K on 2019 prices.

That particular car, you'd be better off buying a BA-BF XR6T which is better value because you get the Barra turbo instead of the 2JZGTE.
Might just be luck but I have noticed a lot of information on I5T head gaskets? Not sure if owners are winding them up to far?
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Might just be luck but I have noticed a lot of information on I5T head gaskets? Not sure if owners are winding them up to far?
Papier-mâché rods, head gaskets and open deck block dramas once you go to bigger turbo and supporting mods to go circa 300KW/wheels mark.

I don't think it would be too much of a problem with just the typical intake, exhaust, intercooler and tune which puts them around that 160-170KW at the fronts point - that factory turbo Borgwarner K03/K04 is used across a couple of other Ford Ecoboost engines, it's a bit small but that's why it has peak torque at 1500 RPM and power tops out at 5500 RPM.

To put it into perspective it makes the same torque as my diesel Focus in stock trim but 500RPM earlier, holds it for much longer and is up 60KW to boot too - it's a pretty sweet setup that 2.5L Volvo engine.

Colleague at work has a modified Volvo 850R wagon and it will blaze the fronts like no one's business

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