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07-08-2024, 11:03 AM | #3211 | ||
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I discovered recently in the 'car care' section of the forum there are a number of threads dealing with specific areas of the car and a couple giving a general overview of which products are most recommended for each job. Well worth reading.
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07-08-2024, 06:51 PM | #3212 | ||
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That section of the forum seems to go unnoticed by many, and for that reason I wanted to keep this thread in the Pub and not be moved to the Car Care sub-forum. Most of what I have put in that section is to create a data base of information, which I can refer people from here to it when needed. This thread on the other hand is about answering questions or highlighting new products and techniques.
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Paint Hardness - This can vary widely from car company to car company, or even within a car company. Every paint system will respond differently, so its hard to make blanket statements. So, take the following with as a lose guide - Japanese paint is typically soft, especially Mazda and Honda. German paint is typically hard as a rock, especially Mercedes and BMW. Australian and American cars seem to sit in the middle, they correct easily but balance that with higher scratch/marring resistance than the Japanese stuff. That said, there was a period where black GM vehicles had very soft clear coat. Again, it can vary. Korean paint? I've never dealt with it, but consensus seems to favor the softer side. Product Recommendations - Glass Cleaner - Gyeon Q2M Glass Cleaner, P&S True Vue, Stoner Invisible Glass. True Vue seems better in winter conditions, especially if you buy it in concentrate form and mix it yourself. https://autobuff.com.au/search?q=tru...e&_ss=e&_v=1.0 https://autobuff.com.au/products/gye...s&_ss=e&_v=1.0 Wheel Cleaner - for heavy duty cleaning, you want NV Pure. I could list a bunch of alternatives, but none come close. This is an iron-remover product, so it turns purple when it reacts with iron, but also stinks............although not as bad as most. https://www.waxit.com.au/products/nv...e&_ss=e&_v=1.0 I would then have P&S Brake Buster as maintenance wheel cleaner, which can also be your tyre cleaner. Use it undiluted for heavy duty cleaning, or dilute for regular use. Always undiluted on tyres. https://autobuff.com.au/search?q=brake+buster Iron Remover - frankly, these are mostly the same thing, I often shop for who has it on sale. Having said that, I think the best on the market is NV Purify, again it doesn't smell as bad and is decent value being noticeable cheaper than the usual suspects. Ignore the "clay lubricant" in the name, its works as both. I would avoid P&S Iron Buster, from what I have been told they have watered it down in recent years. https://www.waxit.com.au/products/nv...nt=17821329412 "Flash Prep" / Panel Prep - there are so many options here, but do yourself a favor and buy a 4-litre bottle of Carpro Eraser. This could easily be your glass cleaner too, which means more opportunity to enjoy that gorgeous scent. I've tried a bunch of these products back to back, but I kept coming back to Eraser. https://www.waxit.com.au/products/ca...iant=702159621 Cut/Polish - Scholls S20 Black is on many peoples list for a reason. If you wanted to try something new, Sonax Perfect Finish is a similar product in that its a diminishing polish, ie cut and finish in one step. https://autobuff.com.au/products/son...t&_ss=e&_v=1.0 Wax - Collinite 845 would still get my vote. Spray Detailer - P&S Bead Maker is such a joy to use, so it would be hard to recommend something else that has the same gloss, slickness and scent. But..................I've fallen in love with Armour Detail Supply Adapt and Amplify. In this case, Amplify would be closer to Bead Maker, but way easier to use. Adapt is more of a quick detailer and gloss enhancer. I'd favor Amplify as it seems to be a touch easier to use. https://autobuff.com.au/products/arm...t&_ss=e&_v=1.0 https://autobuff.com.au/products/arm...y&_ss=e&_v=1.0 Protectant - 303 is hard to go past for ease of use and the natural finish it leaves. For exterior work, you could also look at Carpro Perl, but 303 is better. https://www.waxit.com.au/products/ca...l&_ss=e&_v=1.0 If you are using 303 for the interior, I would suggest having a look at P&S Swift. This is a combined light duty cleaner and dressing, it's great for a quick wipe over/refresh of the interior and basically renders the need for a dedicated protectant redundant. Perfect for your needs then. It won't add gloss or greasiness, just like 303, it can actually be lathered up with a brush if needed, I also use it on rubber floor mats. Smells amazing too! (I can't remember the last time I used 303 or a dedicated protectant on an interior.) https://autobuff.com.au/products/p-s...t&_ss=e&_v=1.0 After a sh.t day, this was my pleasure!
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And I loved reading it - perfect, thanks mate.
Been a while since I cut/polished - still using a very old DAS6 Pro, but last time the bastard would only work when the power cord was at a certain angle or tension. Very frustrating, started playing up halfway through on a Sunday so had to limp through as had done all the prep I did not want to repeat most of that prep on the remaining panels the following weekend. Being a time-poor tight ****, I only use it every 12-18 months, will probably see if a local sparky can fix the cord for a cheap cashie <$100, as can't justify many 100s of $ for a new machine when I use it so infrequently. Last edited by Mulva; 07-08-2024 at 10:45 PM. |
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Great video showing Sidney's standard operating procedure when dealing with customer cars. Granted, most of here aren't going to do all of this in one hit, but there are some great tips and techniques to be had here when dealing with specific areas.
Sidney is a brand ambassador for P&S and The Rag Company, hence the choice of products here.
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Before YouTube, how did people learn this sort of thing? From an employer? A training course? A family member? Reading forums? Trial and error? I suspect for most of us it was the later. Personally, I got none of my detailing skill from my father, his idea of a clean car is to leave it in the rain. YouTube was not a thing when I started detailing in my mid-teens. I also wouldn't have had the confidence to attend a training session, let alone find one being offered. I think the first time I sought further information beyond what I had fumbled through myself was back in early 2008 at age 21 and waiting for my brand-new car to arrive. After searching the internet, I stumbled across the detailing section of this very forum, reading posts written by a semi-pro level detailer (Dave_Obsession). Combined with YouTube in the over the last decade, my knowledge only built and built from there. As it happens, I'm now that semi-pro providing information to others.
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What is this internet you speak of? I think we had Turtle Wax, Armor All and mums dish washing liquid I was lucky in that mum and dad owned a 'car accessory' store way back then. I love everything you offer up here on the forum - your passion definitely 'shines' through. Perhaps pro level I reckon mate.
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I was just going to have a quick look at the video but ended up watching the full hour.
Loved the vacuum cleaner setup. Loved the round brush used for the interior too. I recently was recommended that for my wheels (the maxshine version) but I liked her use of it for the interior. I think I just like the look of the actual brush.
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I remember Dave_Obsession's thread's back then.
Very informative indeed. I am also a fan of Sandro's videos under his CCAD business as well. Yes he had favoured products ... but does review a lot of them head to head. But shows more around technique and what to look for if things are not providing the results you are after.
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