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19-08-2024, 02:10 PM | #1 | ||
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Hi Guys.
Just wanted to know when was the first single-rail BW 4-speed was fitted to a Falcon. I believe it was sometime during XA, but what month & year ? Dr Terry |
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21-08-2024, 09:25 PM | #2 | ||
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Anyone ?
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21-08-2024, 10:25 PM | #3 | ||
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The first Falcon i ever knew a single rail was XB but i guess very late XA may have been a possibility.
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22-08-2024, 07:53 AM | #4 | ||
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Hi. No mention of it in the workshop manual till the XB but it still could have been released before that. Cheers MD
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27-08-2024, 06:12 AM | #5 | |||
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But, as FERG has mentioned, there may have been the odd one right at the end of production that had a single rail if they ran out of top loaders, which I doubt, as they would have had some as spares, for the spares department / warranty etc. I had a book called how to modify your Holden, and it was like a bible... on Holdens. Just wondering if Ford had an equivalent bible. Rare spares would know for sure, as they are the knowledge bank on such things... or used to be. One Man.
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27-08-2024, 07:31 AM | #6 | |||
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Here's what I know. It appears the first Aussie car to get the BW single rail 4-speed was the E49 Charger which was released in August 1972. The P76 also got this gearbox & that was released in June 1973. Now the XB wasn't released until November 1973 & the TD Cortina in Nov 1974, so it would be reasonable to suggest that late XA & TC would have got the BW box as well. A small number of XB GTs got US built 4V Cleveland V8s, so they could be homologated for racing, so those cars would have got Top-Loader 4-speeds as well, so it could be assumed that virtually all other XB 4-speeds were BW single rails. The BW gearbox replaced the Top-Loader to reduce costs & to increase local build content %, so Ford Aust would've done it soon as possible & would've planned with Borg Warner on a fairly precise timeframe for its introduction. There must be other nerds like me out there who would know these things. Dr Terry Last edited by Dr Terry; 27-08-2024 at 07:52 AM. |
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27-08-2024, 07:38 AM | #7 | ||
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Speaking of local content, were the HK-HG steering boxes wholly Oz made, or did they have US components?
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27-08-2024, 07:40 AM | #8 | ||
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27-08-2024, 07:48 AM | #9 | ||
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Thanks - had noticed the castings looked different to US products but wasn’t sure on the guts.
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27-08-2024, 10:12 PM | #10 | ||
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I just did a 10 second search out of curiosity and found this..
Looks like that may answer your question... and suspicions as well. Web page can be found here: https://www.rarespares.net.au/raresp...74-on-xb-xc-tc One Man.
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28-08-2024, 07:58 AM | #11 | ||
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Later than I would have thought, but still fits the timeframe.
Working with that date, it appears that the first 5 months of XB & the last 7 months production of TC 6-cyl 4-speeds were still fitted with Top-Loaders. Dr Terry |
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