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Would be interesting to actually know whether that reduction is because the new car market in total has reduced or whether it is more or less in the case of EV's - in isolation, the information is really not much use as it stands.
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I feel that the uptake model for EV's will be very different to other new technologies, and therefore harder to predict.
The other "feeling" I get, is that people wanted EVs are much less attached to brand loyalty. So China is likely to make faster inroads in that segment.
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The car industry world wide is seeing sales dropping, not just EVs. EV sales are not as clear cut as some would think. OEMs selling EVs have priced them too high and turned a lot of buyers away (to recoup the R&D costs). Price reductions for some models reflect this. Just look at how many BYD cars are out there. They're cheaper, decent enough and have a variety of vehicles, not just shitty SUVs. In addition, there are people out there wanting to get into an EV but due to restricted access to home charging makes it a difficult proposition. Governments put in the policy and then just washed their hands of it, leaving manufacturers to deal with the mess. This is why hybrids, in particular PHEVs are gaining popularity.
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Well said, particularly for highlighting the lack of real access to home charging for many. There are quite a lot of flats in my area with a surfeit of cars spreading 400-500m from the high rise fringe. These owners have no practical, dependable access to home charging for a dedicated EV.
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Re: total worldwide market sales, here is global car sales 1990-2023 (requires sub but you get a quick glimpse when loading - 2023 was up)
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...es-since-1990/ here's ING's global car market outlook for 2024: their forecast is for a bigger 2024 than 2023, but sales growth rate slowing https://think.ing.com/articles/globa...-outlook-0824/ "Vehicle inventory levels have increased in the important US market and due to a stalling of electric vehicle (EV) uptake in the Western world this year." as far as themes go, subheadings are: "Major regional markets maintained growth in the first half of 2024 Sales growth set to slow Production volumes to trail the auto sales dynamic Auto sector peers feeling the heat Electrification slows in Western world while China pushes forward Lower battery prices could support EV uptake into 2025 Hybrid cars are enjoying a comeback"
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But yes. Those that think they're saving the planet by running their electric car on Brown Coal, are more likely to be sucked in by cheap crap from China.
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Constant price increases and no discounts. Now its our (consumers) turn. Its a market -was the sellers time-now its the buyers time. |
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