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I admire your ability to admit it and fight it but as usual I'm not crapping on sick people or there battles...but been judged as such by over precious knobs is all. |
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As soon as I saw this I thought another Stan Zemanek. He did not believe in stress either.
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Your all breeding softness.Not that I car about what any of you think of me or my words but you are all been blinded like the churches blind people into thinking there is a god. Sick people are among us and they do need help but there not getting it most times as fakers are stealing there chances by been sooky little kids. |
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That's the problem with society, we are forced to be pigeon holed and categorised and it should be everyone's business to know. Boys should like blue and girls pink. Everyone should be married or have a partner. Religion. Sexuality............................. I thinks many problems of the world would be solved if people were left to be themselves, free from judgement and stereotypical categories.
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I accept and understand your feelings but if I'm to honest I will offend those less than realistic then gain more warning points based on the fact I don't believe most men are been honest,just sooky? Not really a open forum when I get warnings but others like can threaten me and not receive sanction.Its a forum after all but watching people suffer thru depression is serious stuff and not to be taken lightly but most think to argue instead of read the true msg I said. I'm not gunna hide from my feelings or thoughts from anyone. Nor did my mate tonight who battles depression daily and understands and supports my point of view after spending 6 hrs with him this evening. My feeling on how a man should act is be what ever his family or surroundings need him to be and how he chose to place him self. Meaning if he choose to be with a girl and gets a kid as a result he should be the or part provider for that unit if he chooses to move on or not but he has his purpose to up hold. Nothing more or less based on his choices.Choices...not adding or leaving any out his or partners choices. None of this I slept with 3 girls got em all preggers cos I was depressed even though they were mates wives. My whole point they were not depressed just depressed the got caught out for bad choices. FYI we celebrated a mates pregnancy to this mrs tonight.Big step and life style change for a man but apparently after my 2 kids I don't know any thing about that or stress or been a adult or the struggle that is depression after helping family and friends thru it like Will. Maybe I should of stayed home instead of supported there great news ? Just a chip on the shoulder carrier instead of a friend...but Will doesn't think so either doe's Mel my SIL but hey some on the internet know not me who has to deal with it everyday via helping them along.Neither never complain or judge me but I must be wrong even though both told me otherwise today without pointing it out? Who would of thought but again how would I know right ??? I'll say it again...men need to be proud men again not be allowed to have angles to push into soft whimpy sooks with blame in there eyes instead of pride and commitment based on there choices and no fakes.My whole point all along,nothing more or less and my view will not change cos some say I should.If I make a mistake I'll wear it if not I stand up for what I believe in cos I'm honest. Thats it and all it will be and there will be no replies or judging just my view on it with no hang up's from me. Have a nice day all or do what ever you want cos I just don't care ![]() Last edited by mex351; 10-04-2016 at 01:14 AM. |
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Can we all get back on topic now.
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So we missread this post do we? Well most depressed men have a medical cert. What do you have my learned friend?
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I never cease to be amazed at just how prevalent this kind of human behaviour is in our decadent Western societies, dealing with our 'First World problems'.
I have just spent the last 18 months living in the 'Third World' in and around people dealing with poverty on a scale that most Westerners just could NEVER become accustomed to. What has amazed me is the resilience of these people who have NOTHING ... next to NO money, NO proper accommodation & for the most part ... are ALWAYS hungry ... BUT you never hear them complaining ! They just 'suck it up' & get on because there is NO assistance from Government. There is NO Centrelink to hand out free money, there is NO Medicare to provide free medical treatment, there is NO 'subsidised' rentals for low income earners ... there is just a daily struggle to stay ALIVE !!! I have rationalised that these people living in the most attrocious conditions where there is no care from the government whether you live or die ... these people just simply do NOT have the 'Luxury' of being 'Depressed' ... and believe me, they have GOOD reasons to be anxious & depressed ! Instead what I see in them is they just accept .. and make the best of what they have. Would love to take my kids there and show them how nice their life is ... instead of whining about not getting a new $100 Xbox game, they could see people including their kids living on the side of a 6x lane highway in a packing crate built humpy with a leaky tarp for a roof. NO running water, NO bathroom, NO toilet, NO electricity ... absolute, abject POVERTY !!! Depression seems to be a luxury that us decadent Westerners are afforded ... something that people who really do it tough in life, don't have the luxury of 'suffering' from ! For me, the last 18 months has helped me see the world in perspective and understand what a PARADISE we live in, here in the luckiest country in the world ! Just my 5c worth ! |
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Wow...awesome and honest reply. First world problems. A mate said to me once, depression the new virus. I agree cos many do not do that hard yet complain about feeling down for a day or 2.I have mates who do strugle and feel for them but they did grow up in a hard life styles but they always talk and just move on. |
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Oh I read it, and can vouch for the author's description of third world life 100%. Where we differ though is that I reckon (and I'm not the only one) that the so-called decadent Western lifestyle is the cause of the depression endemic being experienced. There will always be a small group of whingers that will never be happy with anything and will be forever complaining about something or other. However, you seem to tar far too many people with the same brush when all they need is some help.
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I read it and it is all subjective. He says that because he comes from a place like we have. To those people, it may be paradise. Not saying it cannot be improved, but to whose standards? theirs or ours? Whole new argument.
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We are lucky enough to live in a decadent western society that's capable of affording the help people need. It's not as simple as buying material items as a cure. You too are confusing diagnosed depression with the 'I'm sad because mummy didn't buy me an XBox' set. |
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The two are quickly becoming one in the same. The DSM is expanded almost every year. More and more behaviours are being classified as syndromes or dysfunctions, anti-depressants are wildly over-prescribed, etc. Even former contributors to the DSM say its getting a bit ridiculous....
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But, people are inherently no different. Fact is in Australia, with the secure life we generally have, many people are socially dissociated, and many are pressured by technology, work and lifestyles. Those people living in 3rd world countries, transplant them into a lifestyle in Australia subject to depression stressors and likely they will fall to the black dog. Likewise, take a person who is depressed in Australia, say due to pressures of running a regional farm with limited social contact and economic pressures, and parachute that person into a 3rd world village where it is a struggle to survive, that person would have a different mental focus and mental health. People are not different, thing is like cancer, depression in Australia has multiple and sometimes multi factorial causes, and things like social isolation, economic pressures, disempowerment in workplace, shell shock work pressures, technology in the form of e-mails sms, 24 hour phone calls sure as heck do not help.
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As bad as the people in third world countries lives are and everything they go through to survive. this doesn't mean the problems we have are not important. Just because our society has moved further and we experience different problems doesn't mean out problems are not important. especially health ones
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Read the papers or follow the news and you will soon understand. Breeding a new era of sooks who don't want to be accountable for doing dumb stuff so they blame a condition they don't have but some actually do struggle with on a daily basis.
No need to tissue that,it's common knowledge and soft as IMO. |
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Tell me doc. Where did you earn your medical degree? You seem to have the all answers and a strong idea what causes it so why not market a cure? Plenty of suckers out there are willing to pay for your expert guidance and vast experience. Guarantee you'll make more money than driving a truck. I once had the same opinion. I thought people who suffer depression sit around all day feeling sorry for themselves blaming other people for their bad choices. Wrong. You want to hope you never suffer it. Try reading the whole thread instead of leaping in with zero idea of what depression actually is. You might learn something. Then again, you probably won't. |
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Grow up you lot. Your all way to precious and not really reading whats written just acting like ACA instead. |
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If you have nothing worthwhile to contribute in here please don't jump in after 14 pages with inflammatory comments.
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Again with ACA? Again your still basing your professional opinion by what the media tells you? ![]() It's going to be hard to enter an 'internet argument' over the 'real' problem when you don't even know how to identify the problem in the first place. |
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Reading the papers or following the news is a recipe for disaster, one would rather be uninformed than misinformed. But I digress.
There is a vast difference between the stupidity you may have come across in the mainstream media and the massive struggle many depressed people face on a daily basis. For many, simply getting up in the morning is an ordeal, let alone doing anything else. Their mind is so mired in fog, they can't see past it and aren't able to function in a meaningful capacity. And there are more genuinely depressed people than you realise. So stop casting aspersions. |
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You are making assumptions on me based on my txt trying to portray me as a non believer in mental health. Again breeding soft.I don't care what you say or think but it's the facts.Most need a kick in the back side not a cuddle.
You need a tissue for that do you ? Or better yet go see a doctor cos I disagree with you. |
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But as txt can be mis-understood I'll take you just assumed cos my words were not as per the rest I must be hated and wrong. Again need to make our people loud and strong and help those that need it not turn everyone into a bunch of mitten wearing gooses who can't help our selves when 1 thing goe's wrong so instantly the claim is depression. Yes we all feel down but honestly Gary Lyon and co didn't appear depressed but I bet there were made out to be afterwards. Soft,when they know right form wrong but don't take responsibility for there actions,instead blame a sickness. |
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The fact that you have referred to the incident is telling. I agree and the general concensus was that the drama surrounding the situation has not helped the genuine cause. Most people believe GL used mental illness to lessen his responsibility in the situation, given, but that doesnt mean that depression isnt a real problem for many. Is male depression on the rise, yes. Is that rise a result of societies acceptance that men can be depressed, no doubt. Does that mean that we are all becoming sook's, no, just means those who suffered in silence before can now be heard and helped. Where's the problem. |
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Yes you do,cos I don't agree that most that say they did this action because they were depressed.
Don't need cert to tell right form wrong so why do I need to prove my self to any one just to have my say. Never did I say I think all depressed people are fakes and never did I put crap on any depressed people but I did say there's waaaaaaay to many fakes out there. Now as fr certs I bet most on hear are not happy about our refugee program in Aust atm and have said so but where is there certs ? But you don't need a cert do you cos you can have that opinion cos it's peoples lives right? Again we are breeding soft era of men taking a easy way out for there actions. That has nothing to do with depressed people it has to do with fakes. I suggest everyone learn to read first not judge. |
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