Pedestrian Run Down By Cyclist

[LG17]

Originally Posted by tempted

I don't have to prove anything. Get out from underneath the rock you are living under and you will see it for yourself.

I reckon I know one thing you've proved but I'm not going there.

[burnz]

Originally Posted by LG17

I reckon I know one thing you've proved but I'm not going there.

I don't know if its a question of proof, but when local media (aca, tt, alan johns)
as well top gear start writing skits about the antic's of aforementioned riders..

it's getting there, wouldn't you agree?

[prydey]

Originally Posted by burnz

I don't know if its a question of proof, but when local media (aca, tt, alan johns)
as well top gear start writing skits about the antic's of aforementioned riders..

it's getting there, wouldn't you agree?

all those shows you mentioned rely solely on emotive topics and have very little in the way of facts. they are after ratings only and don't care what they do to get them.

anyone who starts quoting aca, tt or alan jones as evidence loses any credibility.

[burnz]

Originally Posted by prydey

all those shows you mentioned rely solely on emotive topics and have very little in the way of facts. they are after ratings only and don't care what they do to get them.

anyone who starts quoting aca, tt or alan jones as evidence loses any credibility.

the first word I wrote "I don't know if it's a question of proof"

so im not after cred, and I don't subscribe to those shows because they are not on the A.B.C...
but I still enjoy riding with my grand kids, but there getting faster or is it I'm getting slower,,, one of the two.

[LG17]

Originally Posted by burnz

I don't know if its a question of proof, but when local media (aca, tt, alan johns)
as well top gear start writing skits about the antic's of aforementioned riders..

it's getting there, wouldn't you agree?

Why is a cyclist doing the wrong thing more of a headline than a pedestrian, motorcycle rider, car driver, bus driver or truck driver doing the wrong thing?

There is no more justification for any above the other.

Maybe the stories are written by fat, unfit, fast food connoisseurs.

[burnz]

Originally Posted by LG17

Why is a cyclist doing the wrong thing more of a headline than a pedestrian, motorcycle rider, car driver, bus driver or truck driver doing the wrong thing?

There is no more justification for any above the other.

Maybe the stories are written by fat, unfit, fast food connoisseurs.

you might be right, ha ha..

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by tempted

............this only reinforces my views that cyclists should not be allowed to mix with motor vehicles on the road, full stop.......

............Hopefully one day this guy will become a transmission sump inspector..............

............The pencil pushers who dream up these laws giving cyclists rights should get out from behind their desks and out into the real world, where they will see that there is simply no place for cyclists on the roads............

............I don't have to prove anything. Get out from underneath the rock you are living under and you will see it for yourself.................

............Isn't it funny how cyclists whinge and moan about being stereotyped, but are happy to label anybody who doesn't ride a bike as a fat burger eating slob? Hypocrites...............

............It's because the ******** that wear lycra think they are in the Tour De France and ride like they are the only ones on the road.........

............Yeah close the thread when you can't handle the truth..............

............If your training and exercise is so important then go to a bloody velodrome instead of being a burden to those who pay to use the roads for what they were intended for........


............The roads were built for motorised transportation, they are not training tracks..............

............Cyclists have been abusing the roads and road laws, whinging and tarring motorists with the same brush for far too long.
The roads are getting more and more clogged and cyclist are demanding more and more space, yet don't contribute a cent towards it.
Its time to fight back against all this BS..............

............I don't confront, harrass, lecture or film them like cyclists think they have the god given right to do..............

I realise that this is a forum and everyone is entitled to their opinion, but it might be a good idea to cut back on the venom.

[Guzz226]

Ponder this

politicians are favouring cyclists - look at funding, laws etc - if the majority were against it why would the pollies be doing the opposite?

[aussiblue]

Maybe it is big city agro compared to country relaxed lifestyle at play?

Don't think so; Manila is one of the largest most gridlocked cities in the world but drivers there stay relaxed and courteous; perhaps just because they know they can do nothing but be patient. Or perhaps it is ingrained from previously being a US colony for so long and deliberately slowing things down to frustrate their then American masters. But they are generally a happy smiling people so perhaps it's just in their nature.

They however only see road rules and painted lines as "guidelines" that don't need to be complied with and they aren't even required by law to stop for pedestrians at marked pedestrian crossings or lights (pedestrians are not looked after at all - if your are walking you have too look after yourself). And the strictest part of the driving licence test is the drug test and body search (the answers to the written test questions are posted on the wall of the test room and the practical test is a slow drive around a small traffic free road marked on a car park type area). But despite the chaos, I think they are great drivers. Few accidents and the simply strategy seems to be you only have to avoid vehicles in front of you; what happens to your rear and each side is those drivers' responsibility. Toot regularly so everyone in front know you are there. Horn blowing is also seen as a friendly gesture unlike here.

[CoupeKing]

Could be they're considered as pests. When I see a cyclist, I take extra special care when I pass them etc. Then I'm like ''eat ^%$#, have fun on your bike''. 45 minutes later while I'm sitting in traffic thinking how many Quarter Pounders I will have for lunch, the same dude just zooms past me. I punch the steering wheel a couple of times, probably out of jealousy.

[aussiblue]

Let's lighten up:







Hope the cartoons are evenly balanced with no driver or rider bias.

[Guzz226]

Originally Posted by tempted

Isn't it funny how some cyclists whinge and moan about being stereotyped

Fixed it for you.

newsflash! Not all cyclists are the same!!!!! Some cyclists are as you would believe yet many, many, many are not! I know 100s - we get bulk buy discounts on lycra! Keeping the "boys" loose helps me remain stress free.

In fact many of cycling comrades are actually triathletes which has its own set of dynamics within the cycling world (along with roadies, MTBers, BMXers, commuters, hippies, kids etc etc).

The thing is, you don't even get the irony of your post - complaining about cyclists stereotyping by actually stereotyping cyclists.

If it wasn't for so many of your previous posts I would have though you were taking the ****.......

[LG17]

Originally Posted by tempted

Isn't it funny how cyclists whinge and moan about being stereotyped

Terrible and dangerous I know but I'm going to make an assumption here that you are referring to my post even though you didn't actually directly reply to it.

I have a question.

Did you see the word "MAYBE" at the beginning of the sentence?

Didn't think so...

[Guzz226]

Simply GOLD AussiBlue - love your work (all of it).

Well done

[Xauterus]

That is true. Car enthusiasts have the same issues with anti hoon laws. Someone has a modified car and they are labelled as a hoon. Lots of generalisations happening here.

I would prefer idiots are removed from the road, whatever method of transport they control.

[Guzz226]

If I ever see a cyclist break the law eg run a red light, my default question I yell to them is ' would you do that in a car'? So get agro, some just ignore.

And I ask this every time whether I am riding, driving or walking when see it.

Like the hoon example for drivers, the minority can give the rest a bad name - the idea the the rest should demand the minority pull their heads in is admirable but flawed as it will work for some but not all.

Some people just believe they are a law unto themselves no matter what they are doing or who else it in endangers.

[aussiblue]

Jaguar have an answer http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/n...20-12u00v.html

[blueoval]

Originally Posted by aussiblue

Jaguar have an answer http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/n...20-12u00v.html

post #423 bloke

[blueoval]

SMH - close this thread already

[blueoval]

Originally Posted by tempted

Yeah close the thread when you can't handle the truth.

go home and cry to mummy sunshine.

You need to seek professional help with that big chip on your shoulder.

[ratter]

It's scary that we have people in society like that!

[DBourne]

You're an idiot Tempted. I know we aren't meant to say such things, but honestly mate, you're a dead set idiot.

We (cyclists) would LOVE to contribute to the roads.. Oh wait.. our taxes already do! So you can shut up about that.

We've heard you crap on and on and on and on about the bad cyclists that "abuse" the road rules a million times. Gee you've caught us! we are all secretly anarchists.

Oh wait, that's complete rubbish too.

Yes you've come across some bad cyclists, but jesus mate, let it go. You come across bad drivers all the time, yet you don't seem to have such a big chip on your shoulder about them..

Did a bike bite you once? Is that why you're so irrationally upset about it?

You want me to have a licence plate on my bike? No problems mate! Let's do it! I feel sorry for you when you follow me around 24/7 waiting for me to slip up and all you get is footage of my licence plate abiding by the road rules.

But wait.. you can't handle the truth that the VAST MAJORITY of cyclists are law abiding riders.

You can't handle the fact that some simple courtesy from BOTH PARTIES (you reading this mate? You seeing that I said BOTH PARTIES) would result in a much better road system.

I'm not lobbying for cyclists to get everything their way, that is completely stupid as well.

I'm simply saying, if cyclists can ride to the law, and with courtesy (which I practice EVERY.SINGLE.RIDE)

and

Drivers can drive to the law, and with courtesy (which I admit, I probably do a lot less than I should)

all would be well.

Now, did I space that out enough for you?? Were you able to keep up?

PS. I'm just about to head out for a ride, I'm sure that'll annoy you, knowing that I'm out, enjoying life on Sydney roads..

[Guzz226]

Originally Posted by SgtBourne

You're an idiot Tempted. I know we aren't meant to say such things, but honestly mate, you're a dead set idiot.

We (cyclists) would LOVE to contribute to the roads.. Oh wait.. our taxes already do! So you can shut up about that.

We've heard you crap on and on and on and on about the bad cyclists that "abuse" the road rules a million times. Gee you've caught us! we are all secretly anarchists.

Oh wait, that's complete rubbish too.

Yes you've come across some bad cyclists, but jesus mate, let it go. You come across bad drivers all the time, yet you don't seem to have such a big chip on your shoulder about them..

Did a bike bite you once? Is that why you're so irrationally upset about it?

You want me to have a licence plate on my bike? No problems mate! Let's do it! I feel sorry for you when you follow me around 24/7 waiting for me to slip up and all you get is footage of my licence plate abiding by the road rules.

But wait.. you can't handle the truth that the VAST MAJORITY of cyclists are law abiding riders.

You can't handle the fact that some simple courtesy from BOTH PARTIES (you reading this mate? You seeing that I said BOTH PARTIES) would result in a much better road system.

I'm not lobbying for cyclists to get everything their way, that is completely stupid as well.

I'm simply saying, if cyclists can ride to the law, and with courtesy (which I practice EVERY.SINGLE.RIDE)

and

Drivers can drive to the law, and with courtesy (which I admit, I probably do a lot less than I should)

all would be well.

Now, did I space that out enough for you?? Were you able to keep up?

PS. I'm just about to head out for a ride, I'm sure that'll annoy you, knowing that I'm out, enjoying life on Sydney roads..

You need to be banned for being so logical - no place for that here!

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by Guzz226

You need to be banned for being so logical - no place for that here!

Bourney has a habit of ruining a perfectly good thread (?) with logic

[Guzz226]

I already have Bicycle Vic and Tri Vic cover as I don't have the same coverage available to me as a motorist

[Guzz226]

Maybe we need a run of 'I drive and I ride.....and I vote' stickers for both our cars and our bike number plates?

Something they could invoke fairly quickly would be to make riding with your drivers licence mandatory

Won't be an issue for most cyclists given they are drivers as well

Bit of an issue for old mate who lost his licence driving like a hoon or drunk that is now forced to get to work on his old MTB though - perhaps such cases could be covered with a special permit?

Reduces the cost and overhead for the masses or taxpayers

No more or less fool proof than driver licence and rego though given the number of repay offenders that just don't comply

The main issue here is a selfish minority that just do what they want in life - rules basically keep the honest majority honest

It's the same people that date take 9 or more items thru the Woolies express checkout!!

[Guzz226]

We haven't covered off the role of Kangaroos in all this yet!

youtube linky

So should Australian natives pay rego too to use 'our' roads?

Good to see the drivers stop and render assistance though.

[LG17]

Oh no Skip!

[ratter]

thank god there has never been any confrontations from motorist towards other users



oh wait, there is it even has a name called road rage.

makes the news quite often and has actually led to deaths.

Must mean that all car drivers are road ragers and murderers if we want to go by tempteds logic, but thank god, most people like him are just keyboard warriors and can keep their attitudes in control when actually facing another human being

[LTDHO]

FYI

For those who prefer to ride on the footpath.

Originally Posted by rules

250 Riding on a footpath or shared path

(1) The rider of a bicycle who is 12 years old or older must not ride on a footpath unless:
(a) if the rider is an adult—the rider is accompanying a child under 12 years of age who is riding on the footpath and the child is under the rider’s supervision, or
(b) if the rider is not an adult—the rider is under the supervision of an accompanying adult as referred to in paragraph (a), or
(c) the rider is a postal worker who is riding the bicycle in the course of his or her duties as a postal worker, or
(d) the rider is carrying a person who is under 10 years old as a passenger on the bicycle or in or on a bicycle trailer towed by the bicycle and the bicycle is not a pedicab.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.

Note 1. Bicycle trailer is defined in rule 257 and footpath and postal worker are defined in the Dictionary.
Note 2. Subrule (1) is not uniform with the corresponding subrule in rule 250 of the Australian Road Rules. However, the corresponding subrule in the Australian Road Rules allows another law of this jurisdiction to prohibit a rider of a bicycle who is 12 years old or older from riding on a footpath. Different rules may apply in other Australian jurisdictions.
Note 3. A rider of a bicycle who is under 12 years of age may ride on a footpath unless such a rider is prohibited from doing so under rule 250–1 or rule 252.
(2) The rider of a bicycle riding on a footpath or shared path must:
(a) keep to the left of the footpath or shared path unless it is impracticable to do so, and
(b) give way to any pedestrian on the footpath or shared path.