Covid 19 -

[FairmontGS]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

*It has not been confirmed that the 2 VIC cases were women. Please ignore.

Martians


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[Citroënbender]

Don’t say that, Chairman Dan will impose Martianal Law next.

[xxx000]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

Don’t say that, Chairman Dan will impose Martianal Law next.

Newscorp would like to tbank you for obediently using their childish title for the Victorian Premier.

[russellw]

Data valid as at 23:59 GMT November 10th, 2020.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting except for the Victorian 14 day moving averages.

10 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR drops to 3.277% while active cases rise to 1,314. NSW recorded 5, SA, WA, Queensland and the NT recorded 1 case each. Victoria reported no new cases for the last 24 hours for the 11th consecutive day.

1 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.258% and active cases rise to 52.

The UK had a lower 20,412 new cases yesterday. We know they are now not counting their mortalities by the WHO guidelines so we are going to ignore the CMR but even using their method they recorded 532 deaths.

Just over 127k new cases in the USA yesterday and 647 deaths sees CMR drop to 2.345% and active cases rise to 34.8% with the raw numbers rising and now over 3.6M. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
Europe passes 300k deaths;
The USA completes 160M, India 119M, South Africa 5M, Singapore 4M and Iraq 3M tests.

Albania (563) - for the 8th consecutive day;
Algeria (753) - the previous high on July 24th;
Belarus (1,038);
Serbia (2,823);
Georgia (2,970) - for the 8th consecutive day;
Bulgaria (4,390);
Jordan (5,996); and
Russia (21,798) on 9/11;


... all recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive days.

[russellw]

Sorry about yesterday's data - I had written it at 12.30 pm but forgot to actually post it.

[Trevor 57]

Another good day for Victoria - what is it now 13 or 14 days?

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

Another good day for Victoria - what is it now 13 or 14 days?

Thirteen 👍

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

Another good day for Victoria - what is it now 13 or 14 days?

ran out of test kits

[FairmontGS]

Originally Posted by prydey

ran out of test kits

I wasn't going to say that

Testing is steady and increasing slightly.

https://covidlive.com.au/report/daily-tests/vic

[Trevor 57]

I am surprised by how the testing numbers still are - a credit to the people showing up and a bigger credit to the tireless workers doing the testing, it must get so monotonous

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

I am surprised by how the testing numbers still are - a credit to the people showing up and a bigger credit to the tireless workers doing the testing, it must get so monotonous

Getting tested for the sake of it seems like a waste of time and resources. Sure, asymptomatic cases will be caught but a negative result is only relative to that day you got tested.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by prydey

Getting tested for the sake of it seems like a waste of time and resources. Sure, asymptomatic cases will be caught but a negative result is only relative to that day you got tested.

In Sydney they are testing the poo water and still finding traces of the virus.

I'm wondering if the traces are residual from past positives that are now virus free? Considering that it was (still is??) believed that the virus stays in your system after you are cleared and provides some immunity?

I heard 26,000 tests were done around the Hills district after the sewer findings were announced but no word on if there were any positives.

[Trevor 57]

Exactly, but if they are screening tens of thousands randomly then some positive will show up eventually, if they are out there

If people show up to a hospital ED with cold or flu like symptoms they will be tested, same as if they show up to their local GP, they won't need to be going to a testing station

[Polyal]

No testing needs to trend up, its about the only way you can try and predict anything.

So we are planning to come to VIC for Christmas, guess we will have to buy some masks? Whats the limit on groups?

[russellw]

Originally Posted by Polyal

No testing needs to trend up, its about the only way you can try and predict anything.

So we are planning to come to VIC for Christmas, guess we will have to buy some masks? Whats the limit on groups?

At the moment masks are still mandatory (not that you'd know it from the media coverage). Groups in private homes are still limited to 2 adult visitors in metro and 10 in regional areas and from 22/11 it will be 10 visitors for metro as well.

From that date (22/11) hospitality venues can increase to 100 indoors and 200 outdoors and there are also increases in the size of other public gatherings (wedding, funerals etc.). Public gatherings will go up to 50 people. Indoor gatherings will still have caps dependant on venue type and a density limit of one person per 4m².

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by russellw

At the moment masks are still mandatory (not that you'd know it from the media coverage). Groups in private homes are still limited to 2 adult visitors in metro and 10 in regional areas and from 22/11 it will be 10 visitors for metro as well.

From that date (22/11) hospitality venues can increase to 100 indoors and 200 outdoors and there are also increases in the size of other public gatherings (wedding, funerals etc.). Public gatherings will go up to 50 people. Indoor gatherings will still have caps dependant on venue type and a density limit of one person per 4m².

Thanks, so looks like we will be OK, most of the family is in Metro. Shall wait and see what the 22/11 brings and whether work classes any of those area's as hot spots.

That's the catch at the moment, travelling is one thing, its the return quarantining that may make it not viable.

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Russ has done a great job of summarising the relevant details, but if you want more info, here's the best page for that

https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/victoria...evels-covid-19

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Originally Posted by russellw

Groups in private homes are still limited to 2 adult visitors in metro and 10 in regional areas

You sure about that one, Russ? The page I linked above says that Vic metro and regional are on the same restrictions and the cap of 2 visitors per day per household applies to both?

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0

You sure about that one, Russ? The page I linked above says that Vic metro and regional are on the same restrictions and the cap of 2 visitors per day per household applies to both?

correct, we are limited to 2 adults per day per household at the moment, but will increase to 10 as of 22/11


https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/sites...rd%20Steps.pdf

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

correct, we are limited to 2 adults per day per household at the moment, but will increase to 10 as of 22/11


https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/sites...rd%20Steps.pdf

OK, so if I am reading this correctly then people over Christmas can only have 10 in a house at once? And this is from the 22/11.

[russellw]

Data valid as at 23:59 GMT November 11th, 2020.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting except for the Victorian 14 day moving averages.

8 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR drops to 3.276% while active cases rise to 1,320. NSW recorded 4, WA 2, Queensland and SA recorded 1 case each. Victoria reported no new cases for the last 24 hours for the 12th consecutive day.

1 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.258% and active cases remain at 52.

The UK had a higher 22,950 new cases yesterday. We know they are now not counting their mortalities by the WHO guidelines so we are going to ignore the CMR but even using their method they recorded 595 deaths.

Just over 142k new cases (a new record) in the USA yesterday and 1,465 deaths (the highest since August 7th) sees CMR drop to 2.327% and active cases rise to 35.2% with the raw numbers rising and now over 3.7M. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
Global cases pass 52M with the last 1M taking 2 days;
Global deaths set a new daily high of 10,007;
The UK passes 50k deaths;
Italy passes 1M cases;
North America sets a new daily high of 155,826 (10/11);
The USA completes 161M, India 120M, Russia 61M, UK 37M, Turkey 15M, Canada 10M, Poland 5M and Egypt 1M tests.

Latvia (453);
Algeria (811) - the previous high on July 24th;
Belarus (1,057);
North Macedonia (1,318);
Serbia (3,536) - 25% above the high yesterday;
Iran (11,780);
Russia (21,798) on 9/11; and
the USA (142,995) on 10/11;

... all recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive days.

[FairmontGS]

They gotta catch you though... We're driving from Sydney to the family Christmas in remote South East Gippsland on a large, remote property and there will be way more than 10 people there I can guarantee you

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

They gotta catch you though... We're driving from Sydney to the family Christmas in remote South East Gippsland on a large, remote property and there will be way more than 10 people there I can guarantee you

But we can have 50 outside? they have no hope with people complying over Christmas.

[Citroënbender]

Faraday bags for phones will be the “must-have” pre Christmas endowment.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by Polyal

But we can have 50 outside? they have no hope with people complying over Christmas.

serious question, so we go to my son's place who lives on 2.5 acres and we don't go inside, we sit around outside, in the pool etc, can we have 50, what is the definition of 'home' and 'outside'

[tweeked]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

serious question, so we go to my son's place who lives on 2.5 acres and we don't go inside, we sit around outside, in the pool etc, can we have 50, what is the definition of 'home' and 'outside'

I believe "outside" is also explained as having to be in a public place, so not on someones property

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by tweeked

I believe "outside" is also explained as having to be in a public place, so not on someones property

That is my understanding too, because that is our scenario for Xmas, there is 16 of us, just immediate family

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

serious question, so we go to my son's place who lives on 2.5 acres and we don't go inside, we sit around outside, in the pool etc, can we have 50, what is the definition of 'home' and 'outside'

I thought outside is still reference to parks etc not your home, I'm sure someone here will correct me on this.
It will be interesting to see what Danny boy allows for Xmas day gatherings the number of people allowed in homes.
Remember Dan did say this will be a Covid Xmas so don't hold your breath for large numbers.

[Trevor 57]

Outdoor religious gatherings can occur with up to 50 people and a faith leader.

Looks like I will have to break out the white collar - it is Xmas Day so it is a 'religious gathering'

A public place means an area that everyone can access, for example a local park or the beach.

https://www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au/c...-step-victoria

They are calling the 22/11 as the LAST step - bull-****, there is more to go than that ol' mate

[FairmontGS]

Another scalp. Getting nearer to Dan

Health Department boss Kym Peake resigns

https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...12-p56e5f.html