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Old 16-11-2010, 10:39 PM   #31
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I had a mate with one that was only a few years old. He could not give it away back then. I think he sold it for around 20k after trying for 6 months to sell it.
I thought it looked ugly.
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Old 16-11-2010, 10:40 PM   #32
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Didn't Brock have a race or two in a ford after that. Seirra I think?

Yeah he raced BMW's and Fords at some point before eventually returning to Holden.
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Old 16-11-2010, 10:48 PM   #33
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Forget the car itself, it is simply a tarted up VL.

However it is a piece of Automotive history. The HDT thing was huge, and this caused it to fall apart. So it's worth money to a collector for that. Also the red car was used at the Melbourne Motorshow.

They look better when not red.




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Old 16-11-2010, 10:53 PM   #34
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Peter Brock went through a bit of a hippie stage in his life, and teamed up with some wacky doctor and developed the energy polarizer. Its nothing more than what the article states - "a somewhat mysterious box under the bonnet containing crystals and magnets, claimed to improve performance and handling of the vehicles by aligning certain molecules."
So far as I'm aware the whackjob behind the Polarizer was one Mrs Bev Brock, and I think she still sells them to this day.
Nowadays we just fill our tyres with nitrogen instead.
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Old 16-11-2010, 11:03 PM   #35
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There are far more desirable Brocks out there than this thing, the owner has been pulling himself for years. For similar money you could put away Brock/Richards M3 (in either livery) or a couple of Blue Meanies, a Black VC man, the Black VK Director and Brocks Ultimate Car with enough left over to build a shed to house them.

The reason this car is going to auction is because he can't sell it for what he wants, simple.
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Old 16-11-2010, 11:39 PM   #36
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The reason this car is going to auction is because he can't sell it for what he wants, simple.
Bingo. It's like people pushing Brock ea's for $15k+
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Old 17-11-2010, 02:39 AM   #37
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I'm interested in the irs, was it any different to the opel sourced irs fitted to the commodores from vn onwards?
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Just out of interest how much do those blue VK Brock Commodores sell for, I remember seeing one that had been wrapped around power pole at the Ballarat Swap back in the early 90s. Pretty sure it had about $20k on it.
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Just out of interest how much do those blue VK Brock Commodores sell for, I remember seeing one that had been wrapped around power pole at the Ballarat Swap back in the early 90s. Pretty sure it had about $20k on it.
In the past few years, anywhere from $40k through to [reported] $200k. They did seem to settle at an advertised price around $120k for a little while but now pop up upwards of $60k.
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Old 17-11-2010, 10:19 AM   #40
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Not a big fan, i like the Walkie better but thats my opinion...300k is massive for the Director though!
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Old 17-11-2010, 10:34 AM   #41
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the polarizer is a poorly marketed/developed negative ion gernerator, one wonders what if ferther development could yeald..
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Burnz, I think more development would have yielded more ridicule.
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Old 17-11-2010, 10:48 AM   #43
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the polarizer is a poorly marketed/developed negative ion gernerator, one wonders what if ferther development could yeald..
They did, they call them power balance bands now.
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Old 17-11-2010, 01:20 PM   #44
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Just out of interest how much do those blue VK Brock Commodores sell for, I remember seeing one that had been wrapped around power pole at the Ballarat Swap back in the early 90s. Pretty sure it had about $20k on it.
Interestingly - there is a lot of interest in VK Group A Group 3 Cars...

They are actually rarer than a Phase III Falcon... and are constantly confused with the VK Group A blue meanie...

They are the highest priced Commodore that I can think of... and there is a couple out there at the moment at the $120k + mark...

Personally I think $300,000 is a high point to ask for... but having said that, Brocky Commodores are starting to increase in demand... and the true/original cars with stories/books/history are always going to pull the biggest numbers...

Never know - this might just be what the collectable car market needs to start heading back north....

Time will tell....

PS: I think that this particular car was belted so hard with the ugly stick - that the stick broke...
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Interestingly - there is a lot of interest in VK Group A Group 3 Cars...

They are actually rarer than a Phase III Falcon... and are constantly confused with the VK Group A blue meanie...

They are the highest priced Commodore that I can think of... and there is a couple out there at the moment at the $120k + mark...

Personally I think $300,000 is a high point to ask for... but having said that, Brocky Commodores are starting to increase in demand... and the true/original cars with stories/books/history are always going to pull the biggest numbers...

Never know - this might just be what the collectable car market needs to start heading back north....

Time will tell....

PS: I think that this particular car was belted so hard with the ugly stick - that the stick broke...
wasn't the VK blue meanie a grp3??
i think brock cars were grp3 and the walkinshaw's were grp A...
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Old 17-11-2010, 01:29 PM   #46
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Forget the car itself, it is simply a tarted up VL.

However it is a piece of Automotive history.
Agreed, it was the start of people putting cheap plastic crap all over their cars. It gave birth to the RICE movement in Australia, and was also the sole inspiration for Superschit Auto and all other after market cheap bolt on garbage stores.

Further, the energy polarizer led to the town on Nimbin being formed, and was the reason for government warnings that drugs can cause you to do stupid things. As the polarizer was phased out however, the faithful reincarnated it as the ill famed "Magic Happens" sticker. After much hysteria and shame, this was later reincarnated to frangipani stickers. To this day, the acid dropping Peter Brock polarizer lives on positioned proudly on idiotic motorists' rear windows; usually adorned to people movers, 4wd's and small crapboxes. Indeed, the polarizer just won't die.
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Old 17-11-2010, 01:39 PM   #47
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VK Group A SS (500 of them made by HDT)


VK Group A SS Group 3 (50 made by HDT)


VL Walkinshaw was made by HSV and was called a SS Group A (as well as the 'Walkinshaw')

*NOTE* Both VK's are the same colour - lighting and photo quality make them look a little different...
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Old 17-11-2010, 01:47 PM   #48
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I'll probably get flamed for saying it, but those cars are quite attractive.
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according to HDT there are only nine built..
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Haha, yesss but you're a VL boy you have to like it regardless!
Hahah, but it's not my overall favourite VL HDT. That goes to the VL SS Group A. (Not the Walkinshaw)

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Yeah he raced BMW's and Fords at some point before eventually returning to Holden.
He sure did, and this was the car that caused the split between himself, and Holden.
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Old 17-11-2010, 04:11 PM   #51
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Hahah, but it's not my overall favourite VL HDT. That goes to the VL SS Group A. (Not the Walkinshaw)



He sure did, and this was the car that caused the split between himself, and Holden.

I've had the pleasure of driving a red VL SS Group A, it was very impressive...
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I saw one last year in an ego sort of colour - number 12 i think for like $90,000
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I'll probably get flamed for saying it, but those cars are quite attractive.
Completely agree, the pick of the HDT cars built
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Tell him he's dreamin . Does he also have aset of Joisting Sticks ? Steak Knives ?

Fugly does not even begin to describe this monstosity .
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I've had the pleasure of driving a red VL SS Group A, it was very impressive...
Very jealous mate. Hopefully I'll get to drive one some day.
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...the energy polarizer led to the town on Nimbin being formed...
I hope youre just being funny. Nimbin as the hippy capital of Aus came out of the Aquarius festival in I think 1974. It was however a farming community prior to that. Prior to the smack heads in the late 80's it wasnt a half bad town. Now its just feral.
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I think the author of that story needs his facts straightened out.

This particular Brock Director, was the only one fitted with the combination of Opel IRS and Electronic four speed auto. It was the ONLY one fitted with a blueprinted 5.6 Litre Brock enhanced V8. This has been independently verified by the current owner and I believe the president of the Victorian HDT owners club, Mr Blair Warren.

Im not saying that this means it's worth 300k....... but to someone else, who knows. Its definately what one would consider the pinnacle of HDT Brock enhanced cars in terms of it's specification.
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Worth it to someone who can afford it .....
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No matter what colour you paint that thing, its one of the ugliest cars ever made
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No matter what colour you paint that thing, its one of the ugliest cars ever made
Someones got to love it or some mothers do av them - glad there on the other side b!oody woeful
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