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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Newcastle
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http://www.maitlandmercury.com.au/ne...d/1414587.aspx
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: new south wales
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Once again we are going to talk and whinge about it but once again nothing will be done about it, the government are robbing us blind and dont cop direct flack because it looks like its all the fault of the servo's yet they are the ones doing nothing about this, but why would they ,if they did then they would rake in less tax from us,they might be dumb but there not so stupid on this matter.
the solution to the problem would be to steel a petrol tanker and keep it in your backyard ![]() or maybe we should all chip in, buy our own servo and drop the price of fuel to force others to do the same.at least we would have cheaper petrol in the short term and not to long after that so would everybody else. ![]() |
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Location: Sydney
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Gotta love these long weekends... Petrol shoots up 20c/litre, and cops are out in force ready to take half your licence away, and then brag on Tuesday about how many motorists they caught at 10kays over... yes, i really do look forward to these long weekends
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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here one small local servo did the unthinkable, broke ranks and dropped fuel to 99.9 cpl clearly everybody went there as he was about 14cpl cheaper than anywhere else in town - Mobil responded with a record low fuel price of around 80 cpl! yea no kidding I posted a thread on it and all. Now said servo is having "supply issues" which got resolved once the pump price went back up to 1.10cpl ................ Yea they AREN'T profiteering are they..............
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independent here 111.9. BP 100m up the road 122.9. definately not having a lend of us are they
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Lilydale
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Back to topic, sorry. I am all for cheaper but I don't care about the price, I just keep pouring the ultimate into it and keep going. Necessary evil. Petrol bowsers should do a boycot again maybe. Governmant needs to raise money too to counter the tax cuts we gonna get to keep the country going. Quite elementry really...give it to you in one hand and rip it out from your other. |
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Rockingham WA
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on saturday a local independant was 1.08 for 98, breezed passed as i wasn't too low. put some in on sunday @ bp for 1.33. i was fuming!!!
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Bendigo, Victoria
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i filled up the gf's Celica Thursday at 10am and 91 octane was 108.9 and 98 octane was 121.9. then at 1pm that day my mate filled his VP and 91 was 118.9 and 98 was 131.9. went up ten cents in 3 hours!
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern Suburbs Melbourne
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Got some 95E10 for 95c, prob will fill up for 1.05 when I fill up on Wednesday.
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Read this in Melbourne's Herald Sun today:
Terry McCrann January 28, 2009 12:00am A READER asks why the price of petrol is $1.20 when crude oil is at a record low of $US38 a barrel. Well, setting aside the fact that $US38 is not exactly a 'record low' - oil was below $US20 just a few years ago; it used to be $US2 before OPEC; and for much of the 20th century it was in cents a barrel - here's the answer. Actually two answers. The short answer is that no business is normally in the business of paying customers to take their product. That's a pretty sure fire way of not being in business. The reader said petrol should be at 75 a litre. That would require the oil company to sell it at anything up to 30-40 less for every litre than it cost to get it to the pump. And so to the longer answer. There are 159 litres of oil in a barrel. Strictly speaking, this gives you only 'about' 80 litres of petrol. The rest will be jet fuel, heating oil and a whole range of chemicals. The exact mix depends on the type of oil - from sweet light to very heavy - and the fractionation processing that turns oil into all those products. But it all does produce revenue and so for the purposes of calculation we'll assume it does all turn into petrol. So, first you have to translate the $US38 into $A54 a barrel; and that gives you a base cost of 34 a litre (54 divided by 159). So why isn't petrol a lot cheaper? Enter Kevin Rudd, John Howard, Peter Costello, and a long line of prime ministers and treasurers before them. A three-letter word: tax. Two actually. The excise and the GST. The excise is fixed at 38 a litre. At least we can thank Mr Howard for that. Before he fixed it, in a moment of sheer political panic in 2001, it went up every six months in line with inflation. The GST is of course 10 per cent on what ever is the final price at the pump, before you add the GST. Just taking the 38 excise and adding it to the 34 base oil price would generate a 7.2 GST and so a pump price of 79 a litre. That is already above the 75 our reader said the price 'should' be. And that would assume the oil moved magically and instantly from the well in the Middle East and elsewhere to being petrol at all the pumps around Australia. Just like cash appears in ATMs at no cost and no process. But that is another, equally depressing story. In reality there is the little matter of first the transportation of the oil to the refinery; the investment in the refinery to process it; the cost of doing the processing; the transportation to the station; and then the selling of the petrol. That all costs several cents a litre. We can be thankful for the efficiency of our oil industry that it doesn't cost a lot more. Now our reader and depressingly far too many others believe that all this should be done out of the goodness of all those industry hearts. But everyone in the chain actually is entitled, indeed needs, to earn a - I hesitate to utter a dirty word - 'profit'. So at the very minimum we are talking 15 a litre to cover all the costs and very low profits - both to the oil refiners and the petrol stations. Which boosts that base price from 72 a litre to 87. Plus GST of 9 making 96. Much more than the 'should be' 75, but lower than the claimed $1.20. A smaller rip-off but still a rip-off? Now to our reader's basic figures. A more reasonable oil price is $US45 a barrel, not $US38. And although petrol at some places might have been $1.20, the confirmed evidence is that in recent weeks the average has not been above $1.10. The $US45 a barrel figure gives you a real 'should be' price at the pump of something higher than $1.07 a litre. That's 44 base plus 38 excise plus 15 costs and profit plus 10 GST. If anything, higher than the actual price paid by the motorist. As anyone who knows the realities of petrol pricing will tell you, on average you get it cheaper than any reasonable calculation of 'should be'. http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...-36281,00.html |
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Most sensible and accurate article i've read on petrol pricing.
So many think it should be so much cheaper when in reality they know nothing of the costs involved. Interestingly, at today's relatively low price per barrel of oil, the amount of TAX we pay is greater than the cost of the crude product itself per Ltr. Quote:
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Cranky old bastard
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Following on from the MHS article that always amazes me is why do we have four separate tanks in the ground? one for 98, one for 95 one for 91 and one for E10. Why cant we just have one fuel?
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Melb.
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I also think it's time we benchmark our local wholesale petrol prices to a world average rather than Singapore's Nomgas price which would hopefully reduce the spikes when such things as "tornados in the gulf, plant breakdows, mid-east unrest, increased chinese demand, ingrown toe-nail for the security guard on the terminal gate, etc"...... |
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Melbourne
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Interesting in any case. GK
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern Suburbs Melbourne
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Petrol went up to 1.28/l in Melbourne. I was lucky to pick up some E10 for 95.7c/l tonight.
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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I saw diesel at 1.19cpl at Bulla BP today, that was weird because it was only 7 or so cents more expensive than petrol.
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Join Date: Nov 2008
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What A Joke!!!
Going up by about 10c a week by the looks of it :|
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