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Old 03-02-2008, 01:36 PM   #31
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Why is it a cop out?

Both my parents cars were auto's, so it seemed sensible to me that I should go for an auto license.

Yeah, sure I could have driven a manual with the driving instructor, but at 50 bucks a pop I could only afford a handful of lessons.

So I had the choice of sitting for the auto license, which I knew I had a great chance of getting first shot, or going for the manual which I had less of a chance of getting first shot because 1. I wasn't ever going to be as experienced driving a manual than driving an auto and 2. there are more things to stuff up.

And if I failed, it would have cost me more time and more money, which as a teenager you have little of both. I thought it would be a no brainer.
this is the same as me.
got 4 cars at home, all autos, including mine.
so i just got an auto licence.
sure its a disadvantage, especially since i have been looking at getting another car, but i'll just deal with it.
iv driven a manual once, and it wasnt too hard, still need practice though.
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Old 03-02-2008, 01:40 PM   #32
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I thought that the laws in NSW have change a few years ago,
saying if you were to pass in an Auto you can't drive a Manual ever at all.

You have to take the test all over again in Manual.
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Old 03-02-2008, 02:39 PM   #33
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In Vict, the auto part disappears off your licence once your probationay period (3 years) is over.
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Old 03-02-2008, 05:54 PM   #34
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I thought that the laws in NSW have change a few years ago,
saying if you were to pass in an Auto you can't drive a Manual ever at all.

You have to take the test all over again in Manual.
only for the duration of red P's
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Old 04-02-2008, 01:27 AM   #35
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Simple- In vic you can drive manual or auto when you get your full license. If you turn it over the card will say "condtions" if nothing is there you can drive what you want. I went for my auto license and had to have an auto on my p's.
Now fully licensed, I happily get around in my gf's manual rav 4, been pulled over 3 times in it and cops never said anything.
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Old 04-02-2008, 09:17 AM   #36
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i personally think the whole things stinks.
Automatic licenses should be barred for all except those with medical reason (such as having 1 leg etc).
IMO (and i express this with passion) if you cant drive a manual, you have no business driving a car.
sure there are going to be the exceptions (and we will hear them no doubt) but seriously, it isnt that hard.
what really gets me, is you can get an auto license and as soon as your off your P's and have a full license, you can drive a manual car.
now thats 1st class safety for all road users right there.
Auto license = auto license for good, till you can prove you can drive a manual.
anyway, back to the topic.

so there isnt any real way of teaching him legally?
how do driving instructors do it in this situation?
I agree, unless you have a disability, then you are required to get a munaul licence. I hate it when people say they got their 'full' licence in an auto.

It is cheaper (less lessons) and quicker to get auto licence.

Is it true the auto restriction is lifted when you are off your P's?
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Old 04-02-2008, 09:18 AM   #37
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In Vict, the auto part disappears off your licence once your probationay period (3 years) is over.
Big_Trev is correct this does disappear off your licence when off your P's unless required for medical purposes
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Licence conditions
Conditions may be imposed on your licence due to medical reasons, an offence, administration requirements or legal requirements. These are shown on your licence as a code.

Some categories of licence are subject to specific restrictions as part of the issue of the licence and these restrictions will not show on the licence as a condition. An example of this is probationary licence holders, who must have a zero blood alcohol content (BAC of .00%) at all times while driving or in charge of a motor vehicle, etc.

Conditions that my be imposed on your licence are:

A - Automatic transmission
B - Synchromesh transmission - heavy vehicle only
E - 260cc motorcycle engine size restriction, no pillion passenger and zero BAC
I - Ignition interlock device
S - glasses or corrective lenses
V - driver aids or vehicle modifications
X - any conditon or restriction VicRoads has advised you of in writing
Z - zero blood alcohol limit

A - automatic transmission
An automatic transmission restriction will apply if you pass your probationary test in an automatic vehicle. You will be restricted to driving a vehicle with automatic transmission for the duration of your probationary period.

At the end of the probationary period, the A condition will be removed.

The probationary automatic condition may be removed at anytime during the probationary period by passing a driving test in a vehicle with manual transmission.

Permanent A conditions may apply as a requirement due to specific medical reasons.
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Old 04-02-2008, 06:12 PM   #38
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I agree, unless you have a disability, then you are required to get a munaul licence. I hate it when people say they got their 'full' licence in an auto.

It is cheaper (less lessons) and quicker to get auto licence.


Is it true the auto restriction is lifted when you are off your P's?
And as such is a good reason to do so.
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