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I doubt they get them for $30K especially the FPV and HSV versions commonly used now. May be 150K is exaggerated, but I was given that figure from the horses mouth and did not query it further... |
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I think the thread starter has made a fair call in his initial comments/question.
Do we have a right to Question where some of tax payers funds are going? Would 2x ss commies as a street presence deter speeding crime etc than having one top of the range performance machine??? ![]() On the flip side, some of the replies are absolutely rediculous and seem outright personal attacks! ![]() ![]() ![]() There are also some good replies that actually make sense Personally, I don't lose sleep over the cars that are chosen, nor am i Jealous that i do not have one and secondly neither do i understand why the police have to have an e3 either ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I wonder what category that would make me ![]() Maybe re reading the start of the thread again may assist in constructive comments and the thread could actually go in a positive direction whether we agree or not. Just my 2 bob worth ![]() In fact, the "RANT" was just that!
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Money goes to much worse places. Id rather see a cool car on the streets than some houso smoking a billy at the bus stop.
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COPS DONT DO HIGH SPEED CHASES anymore...so why buy a flagship model...absolutely no need at all. WASTE OF TAX MONEY. Anyone who doesnt believe this is either stipid or ignorant. Otherwise tell me why its not a waste with a real explanation.
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The reason that the police force don't use WRX's and EVO's is because they're too cramped by the time they get all their gear into them. With a Holden or Ford at least if they apprehend the offender they can get them in the backseat and still sit comfortably in the front.
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keep in mind guys, alot of the new high end cars are given to police by the manufacturer.. 300c's, lambos, hummers.... i wouldnt be the least bit surprised considering the polices yearly contribution to holden/ford that they recieve a few top of the liners for nicks. It keeps both parties happy as holden/ford recieve free eye boggling and forum banter.
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waste of money? absolutely,..outrageous even !!
great post ZDHLANE !
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Based on http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/co...tent/12333.htm I'm in the middle of the 37% tax rate which would mean I do contribute a fair share of that GTS...
As for the cop getting paid more ... well he has a government union to protect him and write him fat cheques even though he is just an expense ... I for one work in a real company earning real profits and I contribute to these real profits and hence get paid accordingly ... Quote:
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LIke ZDHLANE it doesn't really bother me but I guess that it should be questioned since there are no more high speed chases. Does anyone know if there is a maximum speed police are allowed to travel to catch up to someone or is there none.
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If an SS or XR6T can be optioned up (remember, just because you personally can't order something doesn't mean they can't) for less than the cost of the E3, then it was a waste of money.
If the lower-spec car can be upgraded, and can then stop as fast and turn as well as the higher-spec one, for less money, then there was no need for the E3. They don't need to have the fastest car on the road; as has already been noted, they're not actually allowed to keep up with the fastes cars that can be bought. |
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The cops complain enough about the lack of ground clearance on a XR or SS, I hate to see what they think of a HSV. I wonder if its just a promotional thing.
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you are right - people have the right to question the expense. imagine if a few R8s or F6's started popping up in amongst government fleets. hey, they need a tool of trade vehicle - just as police officers do. the question is, is the tool of trade vehicle a suitable vehicle ? in the op's example, i don't believe it is - not when an xr or ss will perform a similar job at a lesser cost. the cops in my area drive xt falcon's because they are a suitable tool of trade vehicle. then again, morons shooting / killing / ram rading / trying to out run police is not as common an occurance here in tas as it is on the mainland...
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Another thing to add ... that E3 (mentioned by the OP) is in an area that is usually that busy you can't do more than 20-40km/h anyway.
Would have been better off with a turbo/AWD in that area due to the smaller tight backstreets ... and still saved a ton of cash
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Wonder what the police think about them ..... I am sure the actual police that drive them would enjoy it but wouldn't it better to have 2 XT's or Omega's or 3 of something cheaper at a station then 1 of those? I think it is fine to question the spending especially when it comes from general revenue and cameras with the association is crying poor.
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one thing that always amazes me at the local police station is how many marked cars seem to be always parked up. at least the E3 was out on the road lol
im all for more marked cars on the road, doesnt matter what they are, people notice them and behave. dont see a cop car for weeks on end you start 'taking liberties' |
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Another thing is ... how hard would it be to get into those seats with a fully packed utility belt on as well ... surely those seats are that bolstered it'd be a tad uncomfortable.
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Often these cars are donated to get some publicity.
there was a Chrysler 300 C all marked up for NSW Police a while ago too. Remember they go to auction when finished with and often get back more than what was paid for them minus, tax and GST. I remember years ago Chrysler loaned turbo Sigmas to WA Police, and Nissan lent some Skylines, not the rice burner models we have now but the Silhouette model.
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NSW Police aren'It is interesting that they are driving Clubsports.... last time I spoke to a NSW HWP cop, they were not allowed to purchase premium fuel to put in their VE SS commodores in order to get max. performabce.... what power does a Clubsport generate on 91 Octane fuel, or E10? Perhaps they can get the whole 325kw out of them on either E10/E85/91/95/98 RON fuel?
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I knew a Highway Patrol commander in Sydney when the AU was out,and although the Commodore was quicker ,he preferred the AU because it handled that much better. I do think buying HSV and GT's are a bit over the top considering the control on pursuits . In saying this ,I am sure they HP guys enjoy them , like years ago when Mini Coopers,XU-1 Toranas , 351 XC 's were the choice .
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I agree with the OP and some others. pursuits are rare these days and are terminated fairly quickly. A standard 6cyl car would be fine. Think how much of a HWP cars life is spent going fast? That said a standard Falcon can pull 200+k's
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That cop's gotta look the part when he goes through Macca's drive through.
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Its more about perceived speed then anything else. While an XT could do the same thing, someone is less likely to think they'll be able to get away from a GTS then an XT.
At the end of the day, they're supporting local companies so Im not that fussed. And while more cars would be good, more police to drive those cars would be better! As for upgrading, all the XR6 Turbo Hwy cars Ive seen have the 4-piston Brembo brakes anyway, yet the F6's still get around. At least it will keep the public guessing. Im assuming it was unmarked?
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