Re-cap tyres should be banned ? - Page 2

Citric GT · 10-06-2005, 10:18 PM

Stuff the trucking companies. Make them use new tyres. It won't dissadvantage any of them because they will all have to do it. They will just have to charge a fraction more to cover the difference.

Rail companies have to bend over backwards to meet all sorts of standards and then pay a fortune to get a path on the network.

MO · 10-06-2005, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Citric XR6

Stuff the trucking companies. Make them use new tyres. It won't dissadvantage any of them because they will all have to do it. They will just have to charge a fraction more to cover the difference.

Rail companies have to bend over backwards to meet all sorts of standards and then pay a fortune to get a path on the network.

You have NO idea...let go of it and get a grip on reality!!!!!

Citric GT · 10-06-2005, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by John McMaster

You have NO idea...let go of it and get a grip on reality!!!!!

That is reality

MITCHAY · 10-06-2005, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MNM96

....As for costs, I work for a company with a fleet of 60 Primemovers and about 200 Trailers. We estimate that we save about $2000000 a year by using Retreads.

Now this is with a fleet of 60 trucks. Can you imagine how much the big companies would be paying like LinFox where they have heaps of trucks. Id say you wouldnt be complaining about retreads in comparison to the costs of new tyres passed onto the consumers.

Citric GT · 10-06-2005, 10:56 PM

Break down the costs to each individual job and it would be bugger all to pass on to the consumer. You should see the number of retreads left on the F3 every day. Its like an obstacle course some days!

dogbreath_48 · 10-06-2005, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Citric XR6

Stuff the trucking companies. Make them use new tyres. It won't dissadvantage any of them because they will all have to do it. They will just have to charge a fraction more to cover the difference.

Rail companies have to bend over backwards to meet all sorts of standards and then pay a fortune to get a path on the network.

so we can see all the owner/drivers and smaller operators go outta business like every other industry....

-Stu

MO · 10-06-2005, 11:03 PM

You lot have absolutley no f..nnn idea of what you are talking about...AP where are you when we need you..all those that think they have had bad time on their motorways...get out and get a real life..out in the outback where life in the fast lane is about 180/200 ks an hour.
Then tell me about your bullshit going down the Hume at 110 a truck/car shredded a tyre.

Citric GT · 10-06-2005, 11:12 PM

Nobody has to do 200km/h. You choose to at your own risk.

mik · 10-06-2005, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pauljh74

Truck tyres - at least the higher quality ones - are designed to be re-treaded/re-capped. The cornering forces on truck tyres you could say are relatively lower as most trucks don't hoon round corners. The more important feature is load carrying ability.

Passenger car tyres aren't designed to be re-treaded/re-capped and I think they should be banned as they perform much worse than a brand name passenger tyre that is priced fairly cheaply.

dunno about the cornering forces bit , 8 ton prime mover pulling 60 ton of trailers through a corner at 100ks

mik · 10-06-2005, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by John McMaster

You have NO idea...let go of it and get a grip on reality!!!!!

what john said

dogbreath_48 · 10-06-2005, 11:19 PM

I can't say i've EVER had a problem with tread lying on the road - it's all been well off to the side...

XRQTOR · 11-06-2005, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Citric XR6

Stuff the trucking companies. Make them use new tyres. It won't dissadvantage any of them because they will all have to do it. They will just have to charge a fraction more to cover the difference.

Rail companies have to bend over backwards to meet all sorts of standards and then pay a fortune to get a path on the network.

Thats why it costs us 2o% more to send a road truck to W.a then it does a 48Ft curtain sided rail container.

You might also note that untill recently the rail was owned by the government. I think toll bought the rights to use the wa lines less than 12 months back. Since then prices have gone up 4o% and the service has dropped 80%, in summer the train ex perth to syd would be lucky to be on time 3 times out of every 1oo.

It has nothing to do with advantages against one or another it's pure business, customers ***** about the fuel levy they are being charged when fuel prices get out of hand imagine how they'd react to a tyre levy. How would you feel being charged 5-1o% more for every item you buy, we cart Jim Beam to toilet paper and everything in between. Tools and machine's, presses for holden (god dammit) parts for toyota you name it we cart it and this is a small family company that sends only 2o loads out a day.

XRQTOR · 11-06-2005, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MNM96

As for costs, I work for a company with a fleet of 60 Primemovers and about 200 Trailers. We estimate that we save about $2000000 a year by using Retreads.

Who do you work for mate.

mik · 11-06-2005, 04:18 AM

yep as if trucks dont pay the goverment enough in tax how much tax does howard get of a single 400 dollar tyre 40 buks x that by 34 for a b double, 800 litres of fuel per day (line haul truck)times 50 cents in every dollar , registration 5 grand+ a year for a b double prime mover, registration per axle on trailers, fee for mass management , im not an accountant but i think the tyre levy is well and truly paid up, not forgeting bullshit revenue from log books fines ETC.........

MNM96 · 11-06-2005, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by XRQTOR

Who do you work for mate.

Cement Australia, ( used to be called Pozzolanic Bulk Carriers before Amalgamation)
Cheers,
Mike

5LMonty · 11-06-2005, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dogbreath_48

I can't say i've EVER had a problem with tread lying on the road - it's all been well off to the side...

I was of the same opinion as yourself until i had to witness 'how' they actually get to the side of the road first hand! Was following a TNT truck on the highway travelling about 105km/hr when his re-tread came off and flew towards my car. This thing didnt just tear off and fall to the side of the road, it got flicked up by the rear wheels and hit the front quarter panel of my XR6 without touching the ground!!! Pretty scary when you can do nothing but stear dead straight and hope for the best. Safe to say im not a fan of TNT truck Company anymore.

11-06-2005, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Citric XR6

Stuff the trucking companies. Make them use new tyres. It won't dissadvantage any of them because they will all have to do it. They will just have to charge a fraction more to cover the difference.

Fine, but one rule for everyone. No retreads or anything like that on cars as well.

As for rail, your airliner that you fly on any day of the week uses retreads/recaps or whatever you wanna call them so should we ban those as well?

mik · 12-06-2005, 02:40 AM

i had a cleanskin on my old xc delaminate on steer 1 metre of steel belt whipping around under the gaurd, i happened to be overtaking at the time, destroyed the gaurd, wiring, supports etc, it gave little indication, very hairy, the bloke i was overtaking shit more than me i think, the tread still had plenty of meat on it before it let go.