Focus 200km/h crash test

[Jim Goose]

Originally Posted by gtxb67

they don't actually state that 2 cars doing 100kph is the equivalent of a 200kph impact
they state in type that this test is more severe than the standard 90-100kph impact
in the video they also state that it is the equivalent of 2 cars colliding at 120mph each
it is to show what can happen in a worst case scenario - and for the enjoyment of the producers

actually he does.... listen to what he says.

at about 1min in...

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by Jim Goose

actually he does.... listen to what he says.

at about 1min in...

this is a basic transcript of what he says. maybe i am misunderstanding you, but he is not saying that crashing the focus into the wall at 200 kph is the equivalent of 2 cars hitting head on at 100 kph. he is suggesting that crashing at 120 mph has the same force whether the other object is a stationary concrete wall or an oncoming car doing 120 mph

this ford focus here is going to go on a little day trip into this concrete block at 120 mph. it is an extreme test that’s equivalent to the worst scenario imaginable. two cars colliding head on whilst both traveling at 120 mph

[aussie muscle]

Originally Posted by Jim Goose

actually he does.... listen to what he says.

at about 1min in...

some people either don't listen or don't know the difference between 120kph and 120mph.

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Goddamn

It's a relevant test too, think of the amount of head-on collissions occur in Australia on 110 zone highways. Well, quite a few in WA anyway.

Not very relevant since this test was done at almost double that speed.

I think I would prefer to see 2 cars crash at 110KMH. That would be more relevant.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by aussie muscle

some people either don't listen or don't know the difference between 120kph and 120mph.

And of course it is just pure co-incidence that the speed is exactly double the average speed limit.......

[Dave3911]

Originally Posted by Jim Goose

actually he does.... listen to what he says.

at about 1min in...

You're dead wrong. You listen again.

0:58 - 1:08

It's an extreme test that's equivilent to the worst scenario imaginable.Two cars colliding head on whilst both travelling at 120 miles per hour.

[2011G6E]

With the way many new cars have performance that wouldn't be out of place in a super car of twenty years ago, it helps to make people think a little.

I've done 200 twice on my old Kawasaki 750cc two-stroke triple, and 220 on my current GSX-1400 (on closed roads...test tracks...race tracks... ) and let me tell you, on a bike it makes you focus like buggery...what happens if the chain snaps? A Tyre blows? The engine siezes? I hit a big pothole? A too hops out?

Too many young guys (and older guys too) seem to plant the foot and revel in the speed, laughing like idiots, instead of giving it the concentration it deserves.

[Whitey-AMG]

Man......did that poor focus wee itself during the the crash ( 4.06 )........

[ieatsports_cars]

Omg !

[In Focus]

Moral of the story: do not drive your car, whatever it is, straight into a wall at 200kph.

[Jason[98.EL]]

Originally Posted by In Focus

Moral of the story: do not drive your car, whatever it is, straight into a wall at 200kph.

best post so far

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by In Focus

Moral of the story: do not drive your car, whatever it is, straight into a wall at 200kph.

No..........moral of the story is not to let your store manikins steal your car because they will drive it into a concrete block at 120MPH.........Imagine explaining that to your insurance company.......

[GT 160]

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

With the way many new cars have performance that wouldn't be out of place in a super car of twenty years ago, it helps to make people think a little.

I've done 200 twice on my old Kawasaki 750cc two-stroke triple, and 220 on my current GSX-1400 (on closed roads...test tracks...race tracks... ) and let me tell you, on a bike it makes you focus like buggery...what happens if the chain snaps? A Tyre blows? The engine siezes? I hit a big pothole? A too hops out?

Too many young guys (and older guys too) seem to plant the foot and revel in the speed, laughing like idiots, instead of giving it the concentration it deserves.

Im with you there, cracked 200 on my gixer thou.

3 lane freeway felt about 3 foot wide.

Never again.

[Fev]

Shame they used an ST instead of a base model!!

Thats some pretty shocking footage but not surprising really. I hope to never experience it!

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by ltd

"It's the equivalent of 2 cars hitting each other at 100kp/h each". Really Mr ******? Well, let me introduce you to Mr Newton who if alive today would offer some rebuttle to your sensationalist BS.

I didn't watch the youtube video, I watched the episode a week or so ago, but I'm sure the crash guy Fifth Gear employed correctly explained it as two vehicles closing in at 120mph.

[In Focus]

Originally Posted by ESP

No..........moral of the story is not to let your store manikins steal your car because they will drive it into a concrete block at 120MPH.........Imagine explaining that to your insurance company.......

[XR Martin]

What happens when a tourist goes down the wrong side of the highway...

[Fev]

Similar to what my mums 80 series landcruiser RV looked like about 10 years ago after we had a head on on the scenic route from Woolongong to Sydney.. Telstar TX-5 hit us head on coming down a slope - driver fell asleep or had a heart attack. His us at probably 90, we hit the brakes and were probably doing about 60 at impact. Snapped the bullbar clean in half, engine pushed back into firewall, dash and foot wells all buckeled in... Other driver didn't make it. The Telstar was torn open like a Pepsi can

[blk6t]

Originally Posted by ltd

Stupid test, stupid comparison and he has it completely wrong anyway.
"It's the equivalent of 2 cars hitting each other at 100kp/h each". Really Mr ******? Well, let me introduce you to Mr Newton who if alive today would offer some rebuttle to your sensationalist BS.
The car hitting the wall at 200kph is equivalent to two cars travelling at 200kph each, then hitting each other dead on and being the exact same construction and mass. As each car absorbs the energy of the sudden deceleration itself, the video shows nothing more than a car hitting a wall at 200kph.
Which again, is why I say this is a completely pointless test.
Sort of like saying; "Hey, I'm gonna stick my willy in a meat grinder and see what happens". Pointless.

Exactly mate, a really pointless exercise. This video should not be used to gather data for real world crash scenarios as I would highly doubt seeing a crash involving 1 car travelling 200km/h into a concrete wall in the real world.

And if there were 2 cars involved instead of a concrete wall, the crash would have been very different as the second car would have absorbed just as much energy as the first car (asuming the cars are the same make/model etc).

This is more of a "mmm what if" scenario....

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by blk6t

Exactly mate, a really pointless exercise. This video should not be used to gather data for real world crash scenarios as I would highly doubt seeing a crash involving 1 car travelling 200km/h into a concrete wall in the real world.

And if there were 2 cars involved instead of a concrete wall, the crash would have been very different as the second car would have absorbed just as much energy as the first car (asuming the cars are the same make/model etc).

This is more of a "mmm what if" scenario....

I dont think it will be used to gather info for anything. I also dont think it was pointless as it shows you what can happen in extreme circumstances.

People are reading WAY too much into this 'test' I dont think it was done for any gain or crash test info, i mean look how many cameras and data points are on a proper crash test car. This one had nothing it was for pure 'shock' factor and as i said above to show the worst case scenario.

[z80]

You can do a just as much shock and awe at 100km/h...

It's an old video, but what the hell..it's a Ford forum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgjtSilW8yM

[Chopped]

Holy Moly !!! That thing is toast.

Spare a thought for the Firies, Ambo's and Coppers who have to see scenes like these in their daily jobs......

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by z80

You can do a just as much shock and awe at 100km/h...

It's an old video, but what the hell..it's a Ford forum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgjtSilW8yM

Did you read the description but?

[Brent]

Originally Posted by DJM83

People are reading WAY too much into this 'test' I dont think it was done for any gain or crash test info, i mean look how many cameras and data points are on a proper crash test car. This one had nothing it was for pure 'shock' factor and as i said above to show the worst case scenario.

Spot on. Whether there's a single scrap of scientific data than can be gleaned from this test isn't the point. For me, the point of the exercise is in the observation of the video......here's what happens if you're really hammering along and you hit something. Whether its 180kph or 210kph or whatever, its academic. Long story short, you're dead, and your next of kin won't even have a body to identify at the morgue. You'll have to be removed from the car with a paintscraper.

[XR Martin]

Not 200km but close enough

[Johnnyboy]

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

Holy crap...

Studies showed that impacts with a solid unyielding object (tree, bridge pilon, big truck, etc) at anything above 80kph are "basically unsurviveable". No matter how many airbags, how many crumple zones, the human body just wasn't meant to take that sort of decelleration.

And what a lot of people don't realise, in a side impact (eg. sliding in to a pole), the limit is only 60 km/h before it's unsurviveable....

Hard not to think of that when doing above 60 down a road that has poles right on the curb.

[kiwimark]

from what i see the engine was removed - if it was there would it have been propelled back out through the rear of the car? or just be found on the backseat?

[blue sleeper]

I wonder how much they got for the rear wheels at the wreckers

[blue sleeper]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Not 200km but close enough

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Wow that's full on.... Did the "offender" survive?

[Bossxr8]

Wasn't that the crash a few years ago that killed 5 teens?