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What about families who already have both partners working Full Time and are strugling by the time they feed their family and pay school fees and a mortgage etc and have no time to go and learn the new skill that you say? Soon as they cut down on their current jobs, well the bills dont cut down for them. Even if they did or could make time it may or may not land them a better job or better wage; no guarentee. If it did would we be all Doctors and anyone but should starve? Or should they go and move closer to work like you say and pay sales fees, stamp duty furniture removal costs and bridging finance and end up another 20 grand down the toilet? |
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Yes
I board at home..
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Yep, single life living at home can be real tough sometimes.
Oh, forgot, your Uni eductaion is subsidised regardless of HECS/HELP (assuming you are Aust resident). Edit - I chipped in for your Primary & High School educationn too. |
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Very few australian families bother to calculate their income verse outgoings, its just a matter of balancing the scales, if petrol goes up, then something else has to come down. Fair enough there are plenty of battlers out there who really have trouble with their finances, theres not much i can say about these people. But reality is, Petrol prices are at $1.40, do we all give up and die, or do we push on? Everyone has choices mate.
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I just like to add that job is harder to find and keep now a days since more and more jobs are going overseas and less work for here
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c'mon guys he's 20 years old, give him a break.
It is the domain of the young to be self-righteous and adamant and tunnel-visioned and have the remarkable ability to see things in black and white. I was like that at 20. I have kids his age and a bit older who are like that. A bit of age and experience will do wonders. (I'm not putting you down SWave...its simply the way it is) |
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I honestly think, that somebody needs to move out of his parents home and start living in the real world. Families struggle harder and harder these days and it all boils down to the cost of living going up, not an inability to do their budget. Alot of times there is never enough money to spread that thin to cover everything. Oh and may I ask just how did you afford to pay for university??? Thats a lot of money to have to cough up in one go. I am tired of people like you sitting there thinking that you have all the answers when in actual fact you havent even begun to see the real world. Wake up and smell the roses, life is not as easy as it is on paper. The more people winge about the costs of things the more that the so called politicians have to listen because in the end its compulsory to vote.
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Bed time.
Edit - Ooh, not yet. Cars & Housing are both markets with both Clarity & Competition, unlike Oil where this all started from. Now bed. |
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well Brenx if your kids are like mine you may have to force them out at gunpoint, lol.
My wife and I had a 6 month period where our two youngest daughters moved out and rented together. (Our two eldest were already out and about). No kids at home...it was heaven. Who'd have thought that the place could stay tidy for more than an hour. The food bill dropped enormously, we didn't have to leave lights on for when they got home late, etc etc. Our youngest pair decided its cheaper at home and our eldest got back from Europe just before xmas and is still here (and looking very comfortable). So here we are with almost a house full again... |
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The real world? I pay my own bills, a mortgage, a lease on my XR6 and my uni fees, which i happen to pay on credit card over a 6 month period. I don't do it easy, i dont have money to burn, but if fuel prices worried me as much it seems to worry most of you who have posted i wouldnt be driving a BA XR6, or anything like it, ive learnt to cop it on the chin and accept the fact that i could cry to every person i spoke to each day, but it wouldnt get me anywhere. As for politicians they are dickheads, but they are all the same, they only worry about their own back pockets, not ours so give up on that one.
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A tidy house? What's that? It's been nearly 7 years since I've had one of those.
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The thing is that as you get older and experience a wider range of input and acknowledge that everyone is different and many, many people have very little control over their circumstances, you will adjust your thinking in many areas. That's the maturing process. (It doesn't mean that you are immature... just not as mature as you will be) |
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When Petrol goes up everything goes up. Forget intrest rates; Petrol is the interest rate. Budgeting for extra costs in petrol is very hard for families. Budgeting for all groceries, courier, postage, public transport costs amongst many other things is near impossible. I am resonable well off but at no stage will I ever become ignorant to strugling families that work hard and still strugle. |
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I was 28 when I got married (I think my parents paid - or at the very least begged - my wife to marry me). I'd travelled a lot in my 20's but always used 'home' as a base. Every couple of years I'd lob in and spend a year or so. Must have driven my parents to despair but being young I had bigger fish to fry, lol. My eldest is 25. I've told her she's got 3 years to snag some poor unsuspecting male and move out. She thinks I'm kidding, lol. So yeah, I guess it does come around... |
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20, living at home, single. Not exactly doing it out on your own yet. Give it another 10 years.. with wife and maybe your second kid on the way while you are paying for your firstborn to go to daycare. Then suddenly your work moves location and you cant catch public transport.. or worse, they go under and you are suddenly left on 1 income. But of course you will have it under control because you control your own choices right? Looks great on paper... but life has a habit of throwing curveballs at regular periods of life, usually when you need it least, and sometimes, just sometimes, it all gets that little bit harder when the funds are just spread all too thin to cover it.
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I know many highly quilified persons who did their 4 years+ at uni and cannot get more than partime work if any at all. Its not a story I heard down the pub but a fact. He might learn; There could be hope. A guess a 20 Year old wouldnt remember the recession very well!! |
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Dont worry about him/her too much guys. There is always someone that is prepared to look down their noses at struggling families and blame them for their own circumstances. He/she is young and will learn. Perhaps, even the hard way.
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By 26 every single thing had changed. Its just a part of life. I hope you dont go through what most of us over 30s have gone through... but I'm betting you will. Stick to your plan but dont for a second expect that it will go smoothly. As an example, just think what would happen if your water heater and stove in your investment home packed it in within 2 weeks of each other.. and you had to get thie fixed straight away. I'm betting that that would sting financially? Especially if you had just put new tyres on the car that week. Just one of lifes many, many, MANY curveballs
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Just one thing Outback Jack, why not treat someone with respect rather then refering to me as Him / her. I have my opinion which is obviously totally incorrect as per the response I have received, doesn't mean you should degrade me as a person as I would never look down at anyone.
My family went through losing our home when i was 12 because of a fuc ked business venture, my old man worked his *** of and got himself back together, he has taught me things in life that age and all the other crap some people carry on with never will, sadly people spend too much time whiging about things and not enough time moving towards fixing them. People assume way to much.. I accept the increase of fuel prices maybe a worry for lots of people, for me they arent as I can accept that its just a part of how things are going, if whinging would make fuel cheaper trust me I would, but it won't so why bother. I am very thankful for what i have as well, I dont see myself being any better then anyone i know, i have my faults, im not up myself just trying to make a honest life for myself, really not that WRONG. If i get burnt along the way and come undone then bad luck, you live and learn from your mistakes. As for caspers comments, i hope my stove dont break now lol.
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He (I think its a he) handled it all well. Better than me at 20. I would have highly outraged that someone had had the temerity to question my assertions, lol. |
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They have only known good times. They have no idea about credit squeezes and recessions. All their working career has been good times but inevitably there will be future recessions. I'll be ok whatever happens but I can see some pain looming for those who are overextended, particularly with our new IR laws in place. edit: speeling Last edited by ronwest; 01-05-2006 at 01:26 AM. |
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Typical of todays era tho.
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