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Unless I have missed something Ford aren't even referring to this as a Mk2 or series 2 update. It’s still being referred to as FG in a similar way to what the VE has gone through. I must say I am underwhelmed all things considered. The FG is nearly two years old that key age where original owners are looking at renewing, there is the 50th thing going on, for mine I would have thought the temptation to celebrate with a bit more of a refresh would have been a good shot in the arm.
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On Euro IV I-6 decision: Looking at replacing I-6 with V6 and making 600 people redundant would have put an icy shiver through Marin Burela as it would have forced FoA $200 million further into the red. And that would have been before he even started looking at relative engine costs... |
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A move in the right direction. Nice...
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sounds like some nifty improvements all round to an already fantastic car.
things like "fast glass" and HID lights whatever the hell they are mean nothing to most people and ford know it, they are not major selling points as compared to the ZF and better fuel economy for example. now looking forward to the official V8 information release ![]()
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Disappointed that EPAS didn't make it onto the 6pot models. ZF as standard is a better trade off than a half-cheeked trim and bumber change.
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Thats the way I read it. Budget constraints are a given in this environment.
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The I6 is a difficult engine to kill. redundancies vs new engine development vs I6 emissions development the bean counters will be busy both here and abroad
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This update is so low key; it makes you wonder if anyone will notice (especially with VF around the corner).
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Usually three years between models, FG April 2008 to April 2011?
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Ideally, in a perfect world, when you know you have money to spend you spread it over a time span that will return, potentially the highest return.
Taking into account lease and warranty cycles any time after two years is a key period for new car owners to consider upgrading. When manufacturers spend money to bring improvements it’s often a challenge to get consumer to appreciate they are stepping into something that is justifiably better than what they have. It costs money no matter what you do. You either have to spend it on the product in a self explanatory way or spend it promoting the product efficiently and in terms that the consumer will embrace and accept. The life cycle also depends how the product is perceived. For the VE the interior is well over due for a makeover because it started life as an also ran. For Ford being able to compete visually with VF should be mandatory. The massive free kick Ford has given them in that arena is something that needs to be addressed. If Holden were to introduce VF this year then Ford has made a mistake not going further with this update. Obviously if they did, it would mean less next time, but you have to spend money when your product is deficient in the eyes of the consumer relative to surrounding offerings, and to an extent, as seen on this site, Ford internal products aren't helping with this issue. Imports are helping age the Falcon package with what is and isn't available. The question becomes a matter of timing. Fords/ FPV Boss engine life is an example of how not to invest for return.
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In regards to fast glass what's so hard about holding the button down for a few seconds?
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I would have though the Tech Pack becoming standard would be a precursor to SYNC technology being made available, but with no series II all bets are off. Has anyone figured out why the G6ET has gone up so much?
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Base model utes just getting more expensive, probably cost more than some 4wd competition. Still one of the best utes in the world though, just needs a bit more ground clearance to make them more practical.
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Is 'fast glass' only left out on the XT?
I'm almost positive I've had it on the last few Falcons I've owned. Just down though, not up. My R32 had up and was futzing around with boxes while 'fast glassing' the window up. Closed the door with the back of my left arm and got the back of it caught in the top of the window and boy did it give it a squeeze. Was bruised for at least a week and due to the angle it got me, had to rely on the key fob to get it unstuck as I was unable to reach the panel on the door. I like the idea of pressing the button once to lower the door but not a fan of doing it up, now. |
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Perhaps it was priced a little low and Ford didn't expect the popularity - or they're taking the opportunity to cash in a little on its popularity? |
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I guess it’s a question of balancing expectations against reality. This "package message" hasn't been getting back to Ford for some time and the frustration can be seen with each passing model cycle.
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The "Global Open/Close" feature on my Mondeo is pretty good too - hold down the unlock button on the remote for 3 sec, and all 4 windows (and the sunroof) open fully. Great for a quick cool-down on hot days. Conversely hold down the lock button for 3 sec to close everything/anything that is still open.
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