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10-01-2008, 12:51 AM | #31 | ||
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i worked on a farm for 3 months in merridin WA years ago, and its a real eye opener as to the difference in water use between someone in the city and someone in the bush on tank water, most city people would`nt dream of a 2 minute shower to save their lives, as far as desalination efficient or not, its a good back up we need water point blank no one really knows what the weather is gunna do, that said i blame the pollies for our problems now , we have known for for 15/20 years that our infrastructure for water was only good for 20 million people now were hitting 21 million mark it`s panic stations, industry uses way too much water as well.
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10-01-2008, 01:01 AM | #32 | ||
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Guys have debate keep the personal insults away from this site.
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10-01-2008, 01:36 AM | #33 | |||||
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10-01-2008, 08:37 AM | #34 | |||
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It's not surprising that Howard wouldn't sign the ammended agreement, as it would have treated Victoria diffrentlly to all of the other states. How doyou think the other states would have reacted to that. |
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10-01-2008, 09:21 AM | #35 | ||
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Anyone hear on the radio this morning about the (apparently, well advanced) plan to run twin 2 metre diameter pipelines under Bass straight from Tasmania to Victoria, fed by GRAVITY?
The water source is the mountains in Tassie, which have the highest annual rainfall in Australia. Somewhere around Port Campbell is where the pipes enter Vic.
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10-01-2008, 03:34 PM | #36 | |||
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Anyway, tassies "down there"...it can't flow uphill! |
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11-01-2008, 03:48 PM | #37 | |||
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Turning seawater into freshwater is a piece of cake, it just uses a bit of energy to do it. New desal technology is cutting down the energy required and compared to long distance pipeline pumping costs it's relatively cheap. The only other rain independent bulk water supply alternative is to use highly treated wastewater as the feed for the RO process - which is unpopular with the public. |
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11-01-2008, 03:56 PM | #38 | |||
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No the pipe will be steel with a plastic coating and cement lined. The pipe is prob meant to come from Melbourne, but most likely it'll come form QLD as the plant for manufacturing this pipe is not complete yet. |
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11-01-2008, 10:07 PM | #39 | |||
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Ypu could feed it by gravity. but i'm pretty sure once you have paid for it, you could have bought several wastewater treatment plants... |
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13-01-2008, 08:59 AM | #40 | |||
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It is not as simple as it is in southern states. |
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13-01-2008, 09:14 AM | #41 | ||
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We import so much from china - why not add water.
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13-01-2008, 10:54 AM | #42 | |||
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13-01-2008, 11:51 AM | #43 | |||
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Ideally, you would have everyone's houses hooked up to a central collection, similar to sewage or stormwater networks. Having said that, I realise the proposal is not even close to viable the way things are, but who knows in the future?
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13-01-2008, 12:12 PM | #44 | |||
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While the Darwin river dam overflows every year it will never happen.. |
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14-01-2008, 09:43 AM | #45 | |||
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A Chinese company was happy to supply water via tanker to our city for 7c a litre. At the current crate of consumption 500,000,000 Litres a day that would cost $35,000,000 a day or $12.7Billon a year. |
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14-01-2008, 11:28 AM | #47 | ||
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242mm of rain in 4 hrs yesterday...all down the drain.
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14-01-2008, 11:38 AM | #48 | |||
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There actually was a feasability study (done last year) to run water from up the top there down south. I'll have to see if I can find it here in the office. |
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29-01-2008, 02:56 PM | #49 | ||
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And Victorias use of the Murray doesnt effect SA? Its just unfortunate for Victoria they are at the wrong end of that river system, and not where the bulk of the water falls. If the water flowed north, you can bet Qld would be missing out in favour of Victoria.
SA draws the short straw whichever way it goes, more and more Adelaide has to do the eqivalent of getting water out of the S bend. I wionder where Coppers gets its water from (the beer tastes too good for it come from the Murray). |
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29-10-2008, 06:07 PM | #50 | ||
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I have been working up at the North South Pipeline in Glenburn opposite the Liberty Roadhouse, they have started bringing in the steel water pipes and have started to remove grass and put in a "Haul Road" to get construction equipment in.
Like it or not the work has started, and we copped some flack up there yesterday with all sorts of abuse and some people speeding through the 40kph work site on the Melba Hwy (whose rego numbers will be given to the Police) If this was my prime grazing land i would not be happy either, but each has their own opinion, and the general feeling i got was that we were not welcome. This pipeline runs from about 50 feet from the main highway and is about 100 feet wide, it will all be buried in the ground and the land will be reinstated to as it was before. As you can see in the photos where the lovely grazing land finishes and the destruction starts.
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29-10-2008, 07:17 PM | #51 | ||
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Are they keeping the top soil separate?
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29-10-2008, 07:25 PM | #52 | ||
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Interesting posts, thanks.
While the Government(s) are pumping so much money into economic holes in the ground, why is it not possible to pour some of that money into real big holes, that can fill up with water afterwards. They don't even let us know how much rainfall was on the water gauge at the farms the Water boards own for future (previously cancelled) dam projects. With so little overall rain collection periods even in a wet year, perhaps we should be putting out as many buckets as we can. |
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29-10-2008, 08:54 PM | #53 | ||
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Cams is the Pipe from Tyco? and if it is, do you know if its from QLD of VIC?
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30-10-2008, 05:38 AM | #54 | |||
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30-10-2008, 05:41 AM | #55 | |||
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They are 14.5 Metres long and they are putting 75 Kilometres of them down....lots of $$$$ for Amoroso Transport
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30-10-2008, 11:55 AM | #56 | ||
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Interesting thread. We don't have access to town water (just outside Ballarat), but have tank water and a bore with high quality water. In the last couple of years, we can live off tank water for at least 6 months of the year, even with low rainfall (we haven't had any decent rain for 2 months). I can't understand why new houses here in Vic don't have compulsory water tanks. Ours is 25,000 litres and although it takes up a bit of room, the water quality is excellent - we use it for everything, including drinking, and don't even need to filter it.
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30-10-2008, 02:52 PM | #57 | ||
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All we need is one of those H.A.R.P.P weather changing gizmos that messes with the ionosphere like the yanks have !, If you want rain/lightning/hurricanes & earthquakes you got it ! ..lol.
On a serious note though, imo we need more catchments that are more shallow, but cover vast areas of land so we can catch more of the rainfall.
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30-10-2008, 03:01 PM | #58 | |||
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Take 1 cup of water and tip it on your driveway, and stand another cup of water next to it. Which one evaporates first? Evaporation is the same per square meter, the more square meters you have the quicker the basin of water evaporates. To store a meaningful amount of water in a shallow catchment requires huge areas of land, all of which is losing water to huge amounts of evaporation. This is one of the reasons why the Traveston Dam is useless idea in QLD. But its going ahead anyway. |
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30-10-2008, 03:06 PM | #59 | ||
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Camo, heard on the radio this morning that truckies and others involved in this project are being harassed and even local buisness's are not serving them such is their angst over the pipeline.
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30-10-2008, 03:32 PM | #60 | |||
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It is the only fast food place within 30 kays, you either go back to Yarra Glen or keep going to Yea to get food, and funnily enough there were no "Anti Pipeline" propaganda plastered at the Roadhouse like there was everywhere else. The Roadhouse owners would be loving the extra business for sure !
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