Whats the law regarding quick acceleration on the street?

[FPVGT500]

Thats true haha well really depends which motorway you enter really

[sexyxe]

Is undue noise a comparative thing? Compared to standard?

A truck makes a lot more noise than my F6, but my F6, accelerates a damn sight faster than said truck. Even without wheel spin.

[FPVGT500]

As above even stock harlies have a louder exhaust than most things on the road

[Gavin Thomas]

Originally Posted by billy302

.....I've been stopped many time on motorcycles 1000cc plus bikes.......
Fastest I've been on the road? If I told you the speed I'd still get arrested even today, lets just say very very quick indeed.....

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i've topped 255 kph on a bike & well over 260 kph in a car - all on public roads.... And all the time not breaking any law, .... Was in the good old days pre 2007 when the NT had the open speed limits, ... (Sadly the wide open Hi-ways are now limited to a mind numbing 130k ).

Even though that speed was legal, some still may reasonably be thinking that sounds totally crazy, but at both times during those high speed "blasts" the roads were straight, long, open & totally free from any other road users.... Anyway, made it thru to tell the tale, lol.

[FG_Frodza]

Originally Posted by sexyxe

Is undue noise a comparative thing? Compared to standard?

A truck makes a lot more noise than my F6, but my F6, accelerates a damn sight faster than said truck. Even without wheel spin.

Theres different rules for trucks and cars all depends on GVM... Same as getting defected for an exhaust thats too loud, still quieter than a truck, but its a car not a truck.

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

That's the answer right there...

Not to mention that on other forums (and also a guy i work with) people have mentioned being booked before reaching an area where, for example, the speed drops from 80 down to 60, and the policeman estimates that you "couldn't have gotten the vehicle down to the required speed before the sign". Here's your ticket.

I have heard that you cannot be booked within 300metres of a speed change. Unless you are doing more then the higher speed limit of the 2

[FG_Frodza]

Originally Posted by Gavin Thomas

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i've topped 255 kph on a bike & well over 260 kph in a car - all on public roads.... And all the time not breaking any law, .... Was in the good old days pre 2007 when the NT had the open speed limits, ... (Now limited to a mind numbing 130k ).

Even though that speed was legal, some still may reasonably be thinking that sounds totally crazy, but at both times during those high speed "blasts" the roads were straight, long, open & totally free from any other road users.... Anyway, made it thru to tell the tale, lol.

Lol good old days, I remember flying through the NT in my mates modified Pursuit 250 at 300kph in '02 (not me driving) I did 200 in a rental Tarago though

[Gavin Thomas]

^^^^ Lol - i also managed to hit the "double metric ton" in a rental bitsashiti lancer...

I remember also Craig Lowndes doing a 250k + run down the track in a FPVGT just before they pulled the plug on the fun....
It was after the Darwin leg of the V8 S/C event, and he drove back in a road registered vehicle basically flat out - & all legal.

[Revolver]

Ive always wondered the same thing, "can you acclerate as hard as you can without wheelspin to the speed limit?"

Ive always thought about the possible answer would be "it is within the officers discretetion". So thinking as a cop, (without the ivory-tower-pigarse attitude) whatever you would think a cop would book you for, would be be the limit of what could be done.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by FG_Frodza

Lol good old days, I remember flying through the NT in my mates modified Pursuit 250 at 300kph in '02 (not me driving) I did 200 in a rental Tarago though

300km/h in a AU ute?

I had a speedo like that once......

[GreenR]

The problem is these "hoon laws" are mostly subjective.

[FPVGT500]

Originally Posted by Gavin Thomas

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i've topped 255 kph on a bike & well over 260 kph in a car - all on public roads.... And all the time not breaking any law, .... Was in the good old days pre 2007 when the NT had the open speed limits, ... (Sadly the wide open Hi-ways are now limited to a mind numbing 130k ).

Even though that speed was legal, some still may reasonably be thinking that sounds totally crazy, but at both times during those high speed "blasts" the roads were straight, long, open & totally free from any other road users.... Anyway, made it thru to tell the tale, lol.

You luck b******, my long live dream is to max out my car and now i would never be able to :( , Blood laws is there any way around it, this nation was built upon car enthusiasts and rev heads now we are turning into a nursing home nation..........

[Windsor342ci]

Im thinking in NSW, perhaps Neg Driving might be the go. Im not to sure but Ive also always wondered.

On the subject of top speeds, does Aus, or more so NSW have any event similar to the USA salt lake events where you can do this legally in a controlled enviroment?

[blackf6]

I have been pulled up for driving too fast as an officer has deemed twice. First time was told to slow down, not booked though never broke the speed limit. Second time many years later and a different vehicle, got told why did i accelerate so fast. Just said i was getting up to the limit quickly. And the officer then lectured me on road safety and that there could of been children about and at that rate of knots i could of killed someone. I took heed in his warning and i don't do it again, as he was right. Also told to stop driving like a di*k he*d and not fined on this occasion either. So i think it is up to the officers discretion. Young and dumb.

[2011G6E]

Originally Posted by JC

So you're expected to do the speed limit at the sign? In that case, speeding up within clear sight of a speed limit increase should be as allowed as slowing down prior to a speed limit decrease. But they only let you do it one way......

No, you are allowed to start speeding up after you pass the sign, not before.
It's a little similar to speed zone changes with our trains. When we pass a sign that says we now have to do, say, 80kph up from 60hph on a bend, we set a counter, and have to stay at 60kph until the entire 1.7km of train behind us has passed that point...then we can speed up to 80kph once we've come in clear of the speed sign, and not before.

[RAPID_BA]

I know someone who was at the lights with a copper. He didn't look to see who was alongside him but said he would take out whoever. When it went green he floored it. Back end squat front end lifted up and he charged ahead. No wheelspin or undue noise. He stopped at the speed limit and the copper caught up, he just stared at him with a wtf? Look on his face. But he didn't book him.

[XR6_661]

Probably depends what you call quick?

I’m sure nailing it from some lights to 60kph in a N/A Falcon probably isn’t going to get you in trouble…

2 step launch in an awd on street slicks? Probably get in a bit of trouble haha.

[FG_Frodza]

Originally Posted by flappist

300km/h in a AU ute?

I had a speedo like that once......

Was modified as I said with digital speedo / tacho.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by FG_Frodza

Was modified as I said with digital speedo / tacho.

Yes it may be but is is also an AU ute which at 300km/h would be sucked up off the road and flicked sideways.

The world record for a ute is a bit over 270km/h.

Aerodynamics are the problem not power and the ute shape is all wrong.

[FG_Frodza]

My understanding was that the 270kmh record was the fastest speed for a production ute.

This guy had spent thousands and thousands on this one including engine, drivetrain and aerodynamics.

I'm not going to argue with you mate I'm just telling you what I saw.

[geckoGT]

Lets just quit that line of discussion, it is OT to the original question.

[GhiaEB]

Originally Posted by CRYHSV

On the subject of top speeds, does Aus, or more so NSW have any event similar to the USA salt lake events where you can do this legally in a controlled enviroment?

There was/is in SA, but it's been awhile since I've heard of anything to do with it. I don't know if they are still doing it.

[Brazen]

Originally Posted by Ben73

I have heard that you cannot be booked within 300metres of a speed change. Unless you are doing more then the higher speed limit of the 2

Basically correct, according to Australian Standards, speed enforcement can not be undertaken within 300 metres of a speed limit sign which shows a reduction in the speed limit, or within 100 metres of a speed limit sign which shows an increase in the speed limit.

So if you are in a 60 zone and are approaching an 80 zone you can speed up to 80, 100m BEFORE the 80 sign.

If you are in a 80 zone and enter a 60 zone you have 300m AFTER you pass the 60 sign to slow down to 60.

It might seem like a quirk in the law, but speed limits and their locations are designed to take this into account.

[mrbaxr6t]

this is interesting to me as I own a modified XR6T, and I can get from zero to 80kmh before I have cleared the intersection if I launch right, often wondered if one day the plod will come along and go "naughty naughty"

[Kryton]

All the internet experts in the world and yet not one single person has bothered to ring their local cop shop and ask them..............

[GTP 290]

Originally Posted by CRYHSV

On the subject of top speeds, does Aus, or more so NSW have any event similar to the USA salt lake events where you can do this legally in a controlled enviroment?

Dry Lake Racers Australia.

They race on Lake Gairdner in South Australia. Check this forum for more information.

http://www.dlra.org.au/faq.htm

[Jim Goose]

Originally Posted by Brazen

Basically correct, according to Australian Standards, speed enforcement can not be undertaken within 300 metres of a speed limit sign which shows a reduction in the speed limit, or within 100 metres of a speed limit sign which shows an increase in the speed limit.

So if you are in a 60 zone and are approaching an 80 zone you can speed up to 80, 100m BEFORE the 80 sign.

If you are in a 80 zone and enter a 60 zone you have 300m AFTER you pass the 60 sign to slow down to 60.

It might seem like a quirk in the law, but speed limits and their locations are designed to take this into account.

Can you show me where this is written....?

[blownv8au]

Originally Posted by Brazen

Basically correct, according to Australian Standards, speed enforcement can not be undertaken within 300 metres of a speed limit sign which shows a reduction in the speed limit, or within 100 metres of a speed limit sign which shows an increase in the speed limit.

So if you are in a 60 zone and are approaching an 80 zone you can speed up to 80, 100m BEFORE the 80 sign.

If you are in a 80 zone and enter a 60 zone you have 300m AFTER you pass the 60 sign to slow down to 60.

It might seem like a quirk in the law, but speed limits and their locations are designed to take this into account.

If this was correct you would be through a school zone before you had to slow down for it

[SteveJH]

Originally Posted by blownv8au

If this was correct you would be through a school zone before you had to slow down for it

Fairly sure the Mobile Camera that sits down at urunga is within 300m of the 80km/h zone starting....

Oh, and Urunga --> Coffs is 110km/h as of today I believe.

[Tobey]

Originally Posted by Brazen

Basically correct, according to Australian Standards, speed enforcement can not be undertaken within 300 metres of a speed limit sign which shows a reduction in the speed limit, or within 100 metres of a speed limit sign which shows an increase in the speed limit.

So if you are in a 60 zone and are approaching an 80 zone you can speed up to 80, 100m BEFORE the 80 sign.

If you are in a 80 zone and enter a 60 zone you have 300m AFTER you pass the 60 sign to slow down to 60.

It might seem like a quirk in the law, but speed limits and their locations are designed to take this into account.

Road Rules 2008, S.20

20 Obeying the speed limit

A driver must not drive at a speed over the speed limit applying to the driver for the length of road where the driver is driving.

Penalty and disqualification: a driver who contravenes this rule is guilty of an offence and is liable to a maximum penalty and a period of disqualification (if any) determined in accordance with rule 10-2.
The rules about speed limits are as follows:
• rule 21-speed limit where a speed limit sign applies
• rule 21-1-NSW rule: school bus stop zone sign is speed limit sign
• rule 22-speed limit in a speed limited area
• rule 23-speed limit in a school zone
• rule 24-speed limit in a shared zone
• rule 24-1-NSW rule: speed limits for learner and provisional licence holders
• rule 24-2-NSW rule: speed limit on Lord Howe Island
• rule 24-3-NSW rule: speed limit when bus displaying when lights flash speed limit sign
• rule 24-4-NSW rule: speed limits for small motor bikes during periods of darkness
• rule 25-speed limit elsewhere.


Good luck fighting it in court. It's pretty black and white.