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Old 17-01-2013, 05:46 PM   #1
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Don't WE elect these Jerks to spend our money??

We don't elect them to put money in the bank and gloat.
You sir have hit the nail on the head, I remember when we were in a surplus, the govt of the time were not spending anything IE: infrastructure, roads, health, etc.
And this was creating a bottle neck in the economy.

As I know its not popular with a lot of people but I would be very happy to see an excise on all imported cars at this time, the funds from this would go to our own Car industry to support it and it would make Australian cars look cheaper, but that wont happen as a lot of people will not like their cheapy cars going up in price, and the Govt of the day will be accused of another tax hike.
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Old 16-01-2013, 11:12 PM   #3
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I guess its ok for hockey to say that when he isnt in gove ,however if and when he gets to be in gove he will find it will be hard to not support the local car companies ,think about 50,000 or more people put on the dole ,that wouldnt go down very well i dont think.Maybe malcom turnbul would make a good treasurer , even if i cant stand the bloke
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Old 17-01-2013, 06:49 AM   #4
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I didn't know there where any local car companies in Gove....
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Old 17-01-2013, 09:57 AM   #5
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I guess its ok for hockey to say that when he isnt in gove ,however if and when he gets to be in gove he will find it will be hard to not support the local car companies ,think about 50,000 or more people put on the dole ,that wouldnt go down very well i dont think.Maybe malcom turnbul would make a good treasurer , even if i cant stand the bloke
I am sure Joe Hockey (and myself), would love to know where those 50,000 job losses would come from. Only the three manufacturers and their suppliers are able to get government assisstance in which he speaks of. Those three manufacturers only made roughly 230,000 cars last year. At an average selling price of less than $25,000 per car (yes i know territories sell for well over $40,000 but a large number of the cars made last year were export camrys (they leave our shore for less than $20,000) and cruzes (which base models wholesale for less than $16,000)). So at 230,000 (cars) divided by 50,000 (workers) = 4.6 (cars) per worker x $25,000 = $115,000 of productivity per worker. But lets also subtract the generally accepted belief that 30% of the cars made in Australia come from imported parts. Thus $115,000 minus 30% = $80,500 of productivity per worker.

You've either made a huge mistake with the employment levels these monies support, or you have made a great case that these workers are the least productive workers the world has ever bred.
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Old 17-01-2013, 04:45 PM   #6
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I am sure Joe Hockey (and myself), would love to know where those 50,000 job losses would come from. Only the three manufacturers and their suppliers are able to get government assisstance in which he speaks of. Those three manufacturers only made roughly 230,000 cars last year. At an average selling price of less than $25,000 per car (yes i know territories sell for well over $40,000 but a large number of the cars made last year were export camrys (they leave our shore for less than $20,000) and cruzes (which base models wholesale for less than $16,000)). So at 230,000 (cars) divided by 50,000 (workers) = 4.6 (cars) per worker x $25,000 = $115,000 of productivity per worker. But lets also subtract the generally accepted belief that 30% of the cars made in Australia come from imported parts. Thus $115,000 minus 30% = $80,500 of productivity per worker.

You've either made a huge mistake with the employment levels these monies support, or you have made a great case that these workers are the least productive workers the world has ever bred.
A lot of parts suppliers also make parts for export, and losing their local supply contracts could result in them shutting shop.
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Old 17-01-2013, 06:36 PM   #7
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I am sure Joe Hockey (and myself), would love to know where those 50,000 job losses would come from. Only the three manufacturers and their suppliers are able to get government assisstance in which he speaks of. Those three manufacturers only made roughly 230,000 cars last year. At an average selling price of less than $25,000 per car (yes i know territories sell for well over $40,000 but a large number of the cars made last year were export camrys (they leave our shore for less than $20,000) and cruzes (which base models wholesale for less than $16,000)). So at 230,000 (cars) divided by 50,000 (workers) = 4.6 (cars) per worker x $25,000 = $115,000 of productivity per worker. But lets also subtract the generally accepted belief that 30% of the cars made in Australia come from imported parts. Thus $115,000 minus 30% = $80,500 of productivity per worker.

You've either made a huge mistake with the employment levels these monies support, or you have made a great case that these workers are the least productive workers the world has ever bred.
Well fine close them all down ,put them all on the dole that seems to be your wish ,they are only working class people aren't they ,no doubt you will be safe counting your beans and driving your Porsche
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