Mr Cadogan Again - Page 2

GTP534 · 11-02-2017, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Peterwl

We do not have another commentator like this, and he does know what he is talking about. I believe he has Mechanical Engineering qualifications, just like those people who design Fords , Holdens, BMW's etc.

Don't think so. If he has engineering qualifications he should know better.

All he's done is rant, swear and been very subjective. He hasn't made one reference to the actual crash data or one objective comment.

If he is a professional engineer his behaviour is unbecoming of one. If one dares criticise him he resorts to personal insults.

He couldn't hold a candle to the guys who actually design cars.

dunga · 11-02-2017, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GTP534

Don't think so. If he has engineering qualifications he should know better.

All he's done is rant, swear and been very subjective. He hasn't made one reference to the actual crash data or one objective comment.

If he is a professional engineer his behaviour is unbecoming of one. If one dares criticise him he resorts to personal insults.

He couldn't hold a candle to the guys who actually design cars.

Like the ones that designed Volkswagen diesels and transmissions then treat the Australian public that bought the crap boxes like second class citizens. Or the ones that designed the ford duel clutch transmissions and knowingly sold that engineering masterpiece to the unsuspecting public and pretty much denied there was a problem .And so on.

zipping · 11-02-2017, 07:51 PM

Just had this vid posted to me.

Anyone read his comments below the vid, no arguments just abuse lol

GTP534 · 11-02-2017, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dunga

Like the ones that designed Volkswagen diesels and transmissions then treat the Australian public that bought the crap boxes like second class citizens. Or the ones that designed the ford duel clutch transmissions and knowingly sold that engineering masterpiece to the unsuspecting public and pretty much denied there was a problem .And so on.

Yes, without a doubt. I'm sure the engineers conducted themselves professionally and with the best intentions.

How management handled it is another matter.

**Fordman1** · 11-02-2017, 08:44 PM

He only gets the clicks and interest with the way he behaves I guess.

It's his means to an end - good luck to him.

I shudder to think what his kids think ( if he has some ), his behaviour is really poor, and a poor example to young ones.

Iggle Piggle · 11-02-2017, 10:48 PM

Funny how he thinks the occasional appearance on Sunrise gives him credibility...doesn't that mean the Cash Cow is like 1000 times more credible than he is?

The Snout · 11-02-2017, 10:54 PM

Man I'm glad I'm not over 50.

malazn mafia · 12-02-2017, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by GXL078

Short bald man with an irritating voice syndrome. Probably conceived by short parents in the back seat of a Japanese car

Yes, the less posts about this short bald man, the better. Nothing to see here, move right along . Can everyone abandon this thread now already

NX74205 · 12-02-2017, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisandsharon

He said to me a few weeks back that if he had a job delivering pamphlets around Australia he'd buy a Hyundai. He also said 'doesn't matter what model, as long as it's a Hyundai'. Thats saying something coming from a bloke who has been in the automotive game for 65 odd years.

Yes, what that says is that Hyundais are a no frills (or should that be thrills?) appliance that can be depended on. Fine if that's what you want in a car, but not everybody buys cars as a result of logic and rational thought.

Yes, Hyundais have come a long way since their introduction to Australia, such that they make decent reliable cars these days. But I'd still never buy one.

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Originally Posted by dunga

I'm with you on this one at least he speaks what he really thinks not out his sponsored **** like the rest of the motor reporting retards .

As opposed to JC being sponsored by Hyundai?

nitro50th · 12-02-2017, 10:15 AM

Has JC gone off his nut yet now that the Mercedes AMG-E63S comes with Drift Mode....wrong badge maybe???

Incidently, I'm sure I read in last weeks Herald Cars Guide that the current Holden Astra only has Lane assist tech available in the top spec model.

Does this mean that if anything other than the most expensive model was tested by ANCAP, it would also be only a 2 star car??

Happy to be corrected.

Bill M · 12-02-2017, 11:35 AM

In general terms and not specific to Mr. Cadogan of whom I know nothing about, don't assume that engineering qualifications are enough. Graduates who have no work experience have qualifications. It is the relevant use of those skills that makes an engineer. If I needed to know something automotive then based on John's youtube efforts I would look elsewhere.

.:4:. · 12-02-2017, 11:47 AM

Can we stop talking about this opinionated and moronic fool. All it does is inflate his ego and draws more attention. Good or bad, it's irrelevant, he is a flat out attention seeker.

Junkyard-Dog · 12-02-2017, 03:47 PM

There's no such thing as bad publicity.

Blue Shadow · 12-02-2017, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkyard-Dog

There's no such thing as bad publicity.

That's not right, ask the Pope if he's happy with the publicity the Catholic Church has been getting

LoudPipes · 12-02-2017, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Shadow

That's not right, ask the Pope if he's happy with the publicity the Catholic Church has been getting

It hasn't had a negative influence on the true believers and the Catholic Church may be in decline in the West as is many religions but it's forging full steam ahead in South America, Eastern Europe and parts of Africa.

Blue Shadow · 12-02-2017, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LoudPipes

It hasn't had a negative influence on the true believers and the Catholic Church may be in decline in the West as is many religions but it's forging full steam ahead in South America, Eastern Europe and parts of Africa.

Publicity is about getting more sales or members, it's not aimed at the "true believers".

The church has had a decline in new numbers, as for South Africa, there hasn't been an enquiry.

.:4:. · 12-02-2017, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Shadow

That's not right, ask the Pope if he's happy with the publicity the Catholic Church has been getting

There is bad publicity and then there is that. I happen to do electical work for the tribunal that has been set up for that purpose. As a father, I'm going to leave it at just don't.

GXL078 · 12-02-2017, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nitro50th

Has JC gone off his nut yet now that the Mercedes AMG-E63S comes with Drift Mode....wrong badge maybe???

Incidently, I'm sure I read in last weeks Herald Cars Guide that the current Holden Astra only has Lane assist tech available in the top spec model.

Does this mean that if anything other than the most expensive model was tested by ANCAP, it would also be only a 2 star car??

Happy to be corrected.

Lane assist technology. Is that so tools can text and drive? I use voice to text over Bluetooth and my newest car is 22 years old.

**Fordman1** · 12-02-2017, 06:35 PM

I'm not a fan of him, but I can see why he does it. I'm also not sure why there hasn't been an issue from companies regarding how & what he says in his Videos - does anyone understand the legalities?

Having said that, I'm tipping he would probably be a funny guy to have a beer with.

.:4:. · 12-02-2017, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fordman1

I'm not a fan of him, but I can see why he does it. I'm also not sure why there hasn't been an issue from companies regarding how & what he says in his Videos - does anyone understand the legalities?

Having said that, I'm tipping he would probably be a funny guy to have a beer with.

Maybe a beer with, a couple maybe not.

Ben73 · 12-02-2017, 07:03 PM

I don't mind the way he reviews cars(most of the time), but when you have video dedicated to abusing random people who watch you video you know you've lost it.

dunga · 12-02-2017, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Fordman1

I'm not a fan of him, but I can see why he does it. I'm also not sure why there hasn't been an issue from companies regarding how & what he says in his Videos - does anyone understand the legalities?

Having said that, I'm tipping he would probably be a funny guy to have a beer with.

There haven't been any issues because what he says is 100% true and the car companies know they cant defend it .

**Fordman1** · 12-02-2017, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dunga

There haven't been any issues because what he says is 100% true and the car companies know they cant defend it .

I guess he has a colourful way of saying it all then.

dunga · 12-02-2017, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Fordman1

I guess he has a colourful way of saying it all then.

Very colourful and very entertaining but what would I know I'm over 50

Hemihunter · 13-02-2017, 01:13 PM

I like his reporting style and after all is only an opinion.

Vesper Martini · 13-02-2017, 03:08 PM

Brothers? they both seem pretty Angry

TheSneakiness · 13-02-2017, 04:29 PM

You all know Youtube policy states if he is being sponsored for what he spruiks he must say or display so in the video? If not he can have his account suspended.

Food for thought.

No I don't support him and am not agreeing with anything said, just merely pointing something out ;)

**Grunter** · 13-02-2017, 04:54 PM

Disclaimer: For all you baldies, "Honest personal opinion" only.
Further disclaimer: I'm also follically challenged, so no more baldy comments!
Additional further disclaimer: Unless they are bloody funny!!

pursuit2359 · 13-02-2017, 05:09 PM

I'm surprised nobody's mentioned that Cadogan used to be editor of CarAdvice while he was employed as a consultant by Hyundai. If that wasn't a blatant conflict of interest, I'll give up. Did anybody see that declared at the time? Somehow, I doubt it.

His "discussion" of the Mustang's crash test result was hopeless. It performed poorly because of the "safety assist" rating (i.e. no autonomous emergency braking) and poor protection of rear occupants in the frontal full width collision test. A few years ago, those components weren't part of the assessment and, by those standards, the Mustang would have received a decent result (I'm guessing 4 stars, but haven't calculated it). By 2017 standards, the Mustang is a poor performer, but it's not the death trap Cadogan is making it out to be. Furthermore, the collision of the driver's head with the steering wheel isn't anywhere near as significant as he pretends due to the relatively low force of impact. He's a sensationalist.

I recall another video where he claims that the Subaru WRX has a more efficient engine than a Mercedes-Benz C 200 on the basis of "brake mean effective pressure". What absolute crap.

tommof · 13-02-2017, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pursuit2359

I recall another video where he claims that the Subaru WRX has a more efficient engine than a Mercedes-Benz C 200 on the basis of "brake mean effective pressure". What absolute crap.

You may find that BMEP is what engineers use to quantify engine efficiency.

From wikipedia

The mean effective pressure is a quantity relating to the operation of a reciprocating engine and is a valuable measure of an engine's capacity to do work that is independent of engine displacement

So not absolute crap...