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Old 08-02-2006, 04:46 AM   #31
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when u call the cops, say that u suspect that they have weapons of some kind and they will be there in time, trust me!
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A friend of a flat mate was at my place one night just after i asked my flatmate too move out he started getting agro at me I laughed it off as im 6ft8 and know how to handle my self all of a sudden he pulled a knife out while my flat mate was in a different room I grabed the phone and dialed 000 while trying not too get to close and reported it and told them he had the knife, I was able to knock the knife out of his hand with a shifter and my flatmate grabed him and took him out of the house and they left, 2hours later i got a call from the police to see if i was ok
they didn't even show up
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Old 08-02-2006, 08:07 AM   #32
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2hours later i got a call from the police to see if i was ok
they didn't even show up
Should have told them you were already back from the hospital and could they please hang up as you were waiting for your lawyer to ring back about legal action for police incompetence.

Oh, and you were not paying the speeding fine you got as you rushed to hospital with a 4 inch knife wound.
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Old 08-02-2006, 08:29 AM   #33
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Bad news man, and I agree, people need to be licenced before being allowed to have children. Far too many troglodites seem to have kids these days, and some of the kids are purely for financial gain via government support. In Sydney, I refer to a particular minority that I can't really mention; but lets just say that they don't like cartoons.

Also, they should enact laws that force the parents to take financial responsibility for their offsprings indescretions.
Same thing happened to a friend of mine when his house was being robbed. You've heard of "oceans 11" well this was like "mohammeds 4". Called the cops whilst they were inside his house and after 30 minutes mo's 4 left, cops turned up 2 hours later.
Politicians have completely screwed our police force into being as harsh as a wet lettuce leaf. In NSW, our cops have been told to go soft on middle eastern crime; and considering over 90% of our crime is committed by these vermin then there really is no hope for New South Welshman. All I gotta do is find a way of moving my business south to Melbourne.
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Old 08-02-2006, 08:45 AM   #34
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Bad news man, and I agree, people need to be licenced before being allowed to have children. Far too many troglodites seem to have kids these days, and some of the kids are purely for financial gain via government support. In Sydney, I refer to a particular minority that I can't really mention; but lets just say that they don't like cartoons.
Well, as a father of 4 young kids and someone totally opposed to any sort of new government tax/licencing conditions etc I have to say that I would be the first person to stand up and not only agree to but actively support having to have some form of "licence" to have kids. Not really a "licence" though, that goes against my inherent libratarianism, but set of enforced guidelines as to who is acceptable to be a fit parent. Not financial based at all (as money does not mean good parenting) but psychologially based on to what would be an accepted "average" parenting skill set required for this country (which means AUSTRALIA, not IRAN or LEBANON or CHINA or the USA, it means AUSTRALIA).

As for parents taking financial responsibilitys for all kids (under 18), damn right they should. I certainly would expect that if my kids were out of control and trashed someones house/car/garden gnomes I would be expected to pay for it and my kids answer to me. That would NOT be in their best interests at all and would act as more of a deterent than any police force hamstrung by feeble bleeding heart pollies looking for a cheap vote buy.
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Old 08-02-2006, 09:17 AM   #35
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Actually, they don't think they own the world. They know they own the world, the government has given them way to many rights and taken those of the parents away.
I agree, I am the mother of 4 children from 12 to 7 months. We have no rights as parents. The children have all the rights but no responsibility where as the parents have no rights and all the responsibility. We moved out into the middle of no where in country Queensland where their school as 23 kids. I think getting them out of the city will help them to not get involved in these kinds of behaviours. I have no idea what the answer to the problem is but I do know that if licencing became a part of it...it would turn into a state where like in china where a mother can only have one child so women hide their pregnancies and don't get medical help, they put themselves and their child at risk out of fear of having their child killed. I don't think you can police it, maybe for all those first time parents should do parenting courses as part of their antenatal classes or before they come home from hospital.
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Old 08-02-2006, 09:27 AM   #36
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They shouldnt have to police it. Parents should still be allowed to be parents, I had the living sh*t beaten out of me as a kid when i did something wrong, i didnt end up wandering the streets at 3am. If i wasnt home by the time the streetlights were out, id know about it when i got home!
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Old 08-02-2006, 09:39 AM   #37
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Make the guardian bare the cost of the damage - if that can't be done, lock them up!

The judges let them get away with anything really. It's their fault too, they give them too many chances.
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Old 08-02-2006, 10:06 AM   #38
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Old 08-02-2006, 06:20 PM   #39
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Seriously people should be sterilized. You should require a licence to have kids, and you should have ot prove that you are capable. I'm sorry to all those responsible parents but that's how I feel, i mean I've ИИИИИИИИИ 22 and I am ashamed at the way people my age and younger treat the rest of society. There is a severe lack of integrity, honesty and honour with the youth (I sound like I'm old school huh), It's a joke. Also the idea of a fair fight has gone out the window as well, one guy picks you, then all his 25 mates bring out steel bars while he runs away like the true definition of a coward while they beat seven shades of sh1t outta you. Bring on National service, stop giving out bullsh1t warnings to young crims, stick them in jail so they can get ИИИИ raped and feel what it's like to be intimidated themselves.

No, I am not a fascist, just sick and tired of my age group being tarnished because there are no laws for little f*****g c***s that haven't been brought up right.

It's not the fault of video games, it's not the fault of T.V, plain and simple it's apathy from society and a "well it's only stealing/fighting/doing the wrong thing, he's only young.... BLAH BLAH BLAH BULLИИИИИ"
could not have said it any better myself
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Old 08-02-2006, 06:32 PM   #40
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Also remember if you are licenced to carry a firearm don't pull it out unless you are prepared to use it...as for replica weapons they're only good for robberies.
If it's licenced leave it in the safe. You'd get it way too much trouble for even drawing it and ИИИИing it infront of them.

They have it made in Texas. If they're on your property you do what you want. There's some rubbish about not using excessive force, but it's pretty easy to shoot first and plant a knife on them later.
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Ay, I know. Society's turning in to ИИИИ eh? Teenager's/young adults mainly think they can do whatever the hell they want these days, and the scary thing is, they can do it, and get away with it.

It's total lack of respect for other human beings.
American culture is here and corrupting our youth. No care or respect for anybody seems to be common these days.

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Casper...well said pity more don't agree with this.

Psycho...good point...but then anyone who is licenced would'nt take it out of the safe unless absolutely needed. As for Texas I like that...in Oz hurt a crim breaking into your house...your the one that gets done just because you want to protect you and yours.
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That is just unreal...unfortunately its only going to get worse...if we don't do something about...wether that be legal or illegal....remember these words...'walk softly and carry a bloody big stick'

Also remember if you are licenced to carry a firearm don't pull it out unless you are prepared to use it...as for replica weapons they're only good for robberies.
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Unfortunately, telling them there is a gun doesn't always work. I was home with my 2 nephews (who were about 10 and 12), and my ex's brothers' ex came around with a gun yelling for the brother. I called police straight away. After 5-10mins, they didn't show, so I rang again. They said that all cars in the area are tied up, and to.... now get this..... close the blinds, turn off the lights, and stay down until police arrive.

So off I trudge to my scanner to see what has police 'tied up'. Well one local car in the area was off on a 'parking complaint' (car parked across someones driveway), another at a 'traffic stop'. All the while I had a madwoman outside with a gun.

The cops arrived about 40mins AFTER my initial call - by that time she'd gone (as I told her the cops were on the way and she heard sirens in the distance).

I wrote to both the police commissioner, and my local member.
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The cops arrived about 40mins AFTER my initial call - by that time she'd gone (as I told her the cops were on the way and she heard sirens in the distance).

I wrote to both the police commissioner, and my local member.
thats shocking, was there any reply back from the letters?
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The police sent me a letter saying the matter will be investigated (and that's the end of it, nothing after that). The local member rang me and said that he contacted the local station and got told that all officers were tied up and that I was considered a priority and they responded accordingly.

I didn't tell either of them about the scanner part, so I couldn't keep arguing.
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scanners arent illegal unless they're a portable scanner....weve got one, its great(1000ch base....)
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Clifton Springs is covered by Bellarine Police Station situated in Ocean Grove. Last I heard they barely had enough staff to keep the doors open, let alone attend one of many drunken brawls that occur around Geelong. If you want police in a hurry these days just say it is a violent domestic............

As for scanners, the network is supposed to go digital before the games, so scanners should become obselete.

There is a big problem with drunken youth these days. I think it is parents who just don't give a damn and society which wont back up those that do. Police just these drunken louts, arrest them, charge them, then cop complaints, esd files and kids get off with slap on wrist at children's court. Tis all a joke. Blame the system!!!
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As for scanners, the network is supposed to go digital before the games, so scanners should become obselete.
Apparently QLD Police already have a digital radio network... however I know of many tow truck companies that somehow are able to eavesdrop on this using a scanner attached to a PC or something.
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Should have told them you were already back from the hospital and could they please hang up as you were waiting for your lawyer to ring back about legal action for police incompetence.

Oh, and you were not paying the speeding fine you got as you rushed to hospital with a 4 inch knife wound.
The only feedback I ever hear about police is negative. I feel sorry for those blokes. From the way nearly all people talk about them on FFA they are a bunch of incompetent lazy slackers who do nothing any where that comes near to work. If only some of the couch potatos here could come out in a div van in the western suburbs of melbourne and find out what really goes on we might get some positive feedback here. I will cop some negative comments about this but I dont care. I have had enough!!!
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The only feedback I ever hear about police is negative. I feel sorry for those blokes. From the way nearly all people talk about them on FFA they are a bunch of incompetent lazy slackers who do nothing any where that comes near to work. If only some of the couch potatos here could come out in a div van in the western suburbs of melbourne and find out what really goes on we might get some positive feedback here. I will cop some negative comments about this but I dont care. I have had enough!!!
Yes there may be a few who see things that way, but there is if not as many and more who appreciate the work not only the police but all emergancy services do.

a few lone voices do not speak for everyone here and i think you would find that support for the guys and gals doing the hard yards is and never has been in question.

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If only some of the couch potatos here could come out in a div van in the western suburbs of melbourne and find out what really goes on we might get some positive feedback here. I will cop some negative comments about this but I dont care. I have had enough!!!
Well I'm on the waiting list as are many other people
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In sydney its not american culture thats corrupting our youth at all. For us its middle eastern criminals being allowed to commit crime, and not being punished. There is a memo from the police commissioner instructing police to go soft on middle eastern crime, and those that are cracked down upon are let off on bail by magistrates. Why just the other day two of these vermin were let out on bail after beating a man to death.

Problem is our premier lives in an area where there is a 90% concentration of them, and he don't wanna lose the vote. Also our governor, who was appointed by the premier, is middle eastern as well and any clamp down on that community could see the government sacked.

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1 week after cronulla riots arrests were Aussies; 23, Mozzies; 0
2 weeks after Aussies; 47, Mozzies, 0
3 weeks after Aussies; 54, Mozzies, 0
In total, 113 Australians have been arrested and charged, most remanded in custody whilst middle eastern people (who did those 20 million dollar revenge attacks over 3 nights and none were arrested) have been let off scott free. Only after 5 weeks when various media outlets began running stories of corruption and collusion within the government did we get any action and thus far 3 have been arrested; albeit with all the fanfare and usual press nonsense of the media. 2 have been let out on bail.

I don't know what they're doing in Vic, but if it's anything like Sydney then your government are a bunch of politically correct c0ckfags too, and no wonder your police are as effective as a wet lettuce leaf too. Believe me they want to get tough, but are prohibited from above doing so.
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The only feedback I ever hear about police is negative. I feel sorry for those blokes. From the way nearly all people talk about them on FFA they are a bunch of incompetent lazy slackers who do nothing any where that comes near to work. If only some of the couch potatos here could come out in a div van in the western suburbs of melbourne and find out what really goes on we might get some positive feedback here. I will cop some negative comments about this but I dont care. I have had enough!!!
one of my best and oldest friends is a copper.. has been for over 10 years. I'm well aware of what they do. My biggest issue is that the "foot soldier" is sent to stupid, irrelevant or even pointless jobs while those in charge "back burn" more importing and urgent jobs.
Seriously, being sent to deal with a "parking issue" and not being told to forget about it for the moment and get over to a job where an innocent person may be shot/stabbed/beaten senseless is a joke.
Its not the cop on the beats fault, they are jsut the frontline, its the way the police service had been decimated of skills, senior positions and decisions made by incompetent fools and the whole thing being turned into a revenue service that has my back up.
Individual police do well and are usually rational and fair....police management and policy is complete horsemanure that has got its priorities and ideals totally screwed up now.
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In sydney its not american culture thats corrupting our youth at all. For us its middle eastern criminals being allowed to commit crime, and not being punished. There is a memo from the police commissioner instructing police to go soft on middle eastern crime, and those that are cracked down upon are let off on bail by magistrates. Why just the other day two of these vermin were let out on bail after beating a man to death.

Problem is our premier lives in an area where there is a 90% concentration of them, and he don't wanna lose the vote. Also our governor, who was appointed by the premier, is middle eastern as well and any clamp down on that community could see the government sacked.

Don't believe me?
1 week after cronulla riots arrests were Aussies; 23, Mozzies; 0
2 weeks after Aussies; 47, Mozzies, 0
3 weeks after Aussies; 54, Mozzies, 0
In total, 113 Australians have been arrested and charged, most remanded in custody whilst middle eastern people (who did those 20 million dollar revenge attacks over 3 nights and none were arrested) have been let off scott free. Only after 5 weeks when various media outlets began running stories of corruption and collusion within the government did we get any action and thus far 3 have been arrested; albeit with all the fanfare and usual press nonsense of the media. 2 have been let out on bail.

I don't know what they're doing in Vic, but if it's anything like Sydney then your government are a bunch of politically correct c0ckfags too, and no wonder your police are as effective as a wet lettuce leaf too. Believe me they want to get tough, but are prohibited from above doing so.
100% true.

I live out campbelltown way, 45 min from cronulla, we heard that 1oo+ of the maggot's were heading to our local shopping center to trash the joint and rape our women. After decideing not to shut the square down 12o police patrolled the place, anyone who looked like trouble was kicked out. If you carried an austrilan flag or anythng similar it was taken from you, patriotic tatto's were made to be covered up if not made to leave. My mate and i were questioned as soon as we walked in and then 3 cops follwed us for about an hour then we got kicked out, they said we looked like we would start trouble.

About an hour later we hear that they are headed for a local street most copper's arn't willing to go down without a few of them being present, 3o copper's and 2 riot squad teams show up and ИИИИcan the aussies for sticking up for our own turf. We didn't go looking for trouble it came out here. Why were large groups of young male's allowed to head into other area's unchallanged when they knew what they were setting out to do in the first place, they should have been stopped not just have a massive police pressence and hope nothing happens. Lucky they didn't turn up it would have ended badly for most of them, doubt they would have made it out of their buzz boxes.
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I live out campbelltown way, 45 min from cronulla, we heard that 1oo+ of the maggot's were heading to our local shopping center to trash the joint and rape our women. .
I just love unthinking mob racism, borne of fear and lack of understanding.
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LTD and XRQTOR you both are close to the line of the TOC of the site.

I dont want to have to shut this thread or delete posts.
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Abloke a couple of years back rang John Laws about the cop response times ! He woke in the middle of the night and found three blokes had broken into his garage and rang the cops. They told him they didnt have a unit available and would be up to an hour away ! he hung up , waited a couple of minutes and rang back saying dont worry about it , he had just shot them !

withing 3 minutes there was a car there , and within 5 there were about half a dozen ! They apprehended the blokes and started questioning the home owner ! one copper said , "I thought you said you shot them! " and the bloke said " I thought you said there was no units available for an hour !"
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