Stock EF fairmont VS stock VR Commodore? - Page 2

EB Pete · 15-03-2006, 12:19 AM

me mate has a tickford enhanced ef or el fairmont and it beats a vs with pace makers, 2 1/2 and k&n pan filter.

K_Man · 15-03-2006, 01:38 AM

Bah, who cares? They're both family barges FFS, take pride in the fact that you have the more solid car with a motor that doesn't mind revving past 3000rpm.

BOOSTDEF · 15-03-2006, 02:42 AM

Yeh you will have a VR.... They were the slowest of the V series by far(some torque limiter)... Any others i dunno...

It really does depend on a lot of things though, i mean i beat a VN 5 litre when i was stock, but i always forget to mention the other guy sounded like his car was about to blow up...

Seriously though, if you want a good race againt something you know is faster, pull up beside them at 65-70km/h , and drop it back to 1st gear :P:P

But then race through the yellow and feel half satisfied :P:P

mr_efxr · 15-03-2006, 08:16 AM

Honestly, stock for stock (not even) you would make the Commo driver pull over and start crying. I remember, on my stock engine and auto box + full tank of juice + weight of the wagon, I still managed to be 2 car lengths in front of my mates VS V6 Statesman (extractors, 2.5" pipes, SS air induction).

The EF/EL 4.0L I6's s!@t all over the VR/VS Holden V6. Case closed.

DanXR6T · 15-03-2006, 08:32 AM

I could imagine this same thread on a Commo forum with the exact opposite posts....

dansedgli · 15-03-2006, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Axeman82

I could imagine this same thread on a Commo forum with the exact opposite posts....

Yep.

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Kenaz · 15-03-2006, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Trouty

Something like that.

There was a VS Calais vs EL Ghia comparison in Wheels magazine and I noticed they had very similar 1st gear ratios, despite diffs being 3.08 and 3.45 respectively.

I know this is off topic, but what was the outcome of that comparo?
Or, don't I want to know?

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ON_DUBS · 15-03-2006, 09:40 AM

theres really not much in it to be worth talking about....

who wants to race stock vehicles??

Bipolar · 15-03-2006, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dansedgli

Woohoo! You beat him to 60kms/hr and call it a win???

My sister does that in her barina too :P

My bad. I shouldn't have mentioned a lamearse 5 seconds of entertainment on this thread. I do know he was trying, 'cause he did it another 2 times, the exhaust whaling above all other audible sound.

Won't happen again.

ilsautomotive · 15-03-2006, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenaz

I know this is off topic, but what was the outcome of that comparo?
Or, don't I want to know?

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To be honest I can't remember and the magazine is at my parents' place. I'll look it up.

And a reminder to everyone else that we are only referring to any racing on private roads.

Olympus · 15-03-2006, 12:16 PM

My stock EL Fairmont is only just quicker than a VT Commy. So I'm sure you'll beat a VR.
Depends who gets the headstart.

mcflux · 15-03-2006, 01:08 PM

I beat a sherpa the other day

Because of my glorious victory, I painted another rising sun on the front driver's guard.

My victory list consists of:

KB Laser (auto, but must've had a stally, it was sik)
VH starfire-powered Commodore (my sweetest victory to date, but I don't think my rolling start was cheating)
TWO (yes, two) Sherpas, both manual
And an 80s corvette. Just because it was parked in a caryard doesn't mean it wasn't racing! It was near the lights... And it had stickers too, albeit "For Sale" stickers

AdzT3-146 · 15-03-2006, 01:19 PM

lol @ dave.

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Supa R00 · 15-03-2006, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghia5L

I beat a sherpa the other day

Because of my glorious victory, I painted another rising sun on the front driver's guard.

My victory list consists of:

KB Laser (auto, but must've had a stally, it was sik)
VH starfire-powered Commodore (my sweetest victory to date, but I don't think my rolling start was cheating)
TWO (yes, two) Sherpas, both manual
And an 80s corvette. Just because it was parked in a caryard doesn't mean it wasn't racing! It was near the lights... And it had stickers too, albeit "For Sale" stickers

Bahahahah!!!!

: thats some funny ИИИИ!!!

Psycho Chicken · 15-03-2006, 01:37 PM

I could take you down in a Sherpa anyday!

CaRtZ · 15-03-2006, 02:34 PM

my ef wagon has only been beaten by a vz commodore and a single turbo toyota supra. however it will take out any vt at the lights on a friday night. i wouldn't be worried!

mcflux · 15-03-2006, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

I could take you down in a Sherpa anyday!

Well it all comes down to driver skill. If you got the correct reaction time at the lights, and less than 10m^3 of burnout smoke at the lights (on a public road, coz we all know that <10m^3 of smoke is legal and in fact the cops encourage it), and time your launch with the electric supercharger whine, then you should beat me down the 1/4 universe. Due to fuel consumption (or lack of).

I might have a slight edge until i run out of fuel, but that in no way means you're doing a "loser flyby".

So I'll pass the laurels of victory to you, my good Sir!

mcflux · 15-03-2006, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

I could take you down in a Sherpa anyday!

Then again a firearm will do this effectively.

How about that pink bike eh...

dansedgli · 15-03-2006, 04:23 PM

There's a photo that will never disappear!

Psycho Chicken · 15-03-2006, 04:56 PM

Even that bike would of chomped a Sherpa. In all it's two flat tyred glory.

Psycho Chicken · 15-03-2006, 05:44 PM

Oh Dave, for the record.

I'd rather be photographed riding a pink bike than James' dad.

Does this make you the FILFhunter? DILFhunter?

PS; get socks without holes in them you bum!

montyv8 · 15-03-2006, 05:49 PM

hehehe.......

eb91xr6 · 15-03-2006, 06:23 PM

we don't race on public roads, do we??

no, didn't think so....

Walkinshaw · 15-03-2006, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

Does this make you the FILFhunter? DILFhunter?

urrrrghhh my liver

efgiar · 15-03-2006, 08:21 PM

from my experience, stock EF ghia, against a stock vt exec = i win. commodores have more tourqe but less power, thats what keep them up with the falcon.

mcflux · 15-03-2006, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

Does this make you the FILFhunter? DILFhunter?

OK you win Robbo

: :hihi:

But at least I kissed his Hott m0m!

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Originally Posted by Walkinshaw

urrrrghhh my liver

And I think that's what James' dad said when he lifted me!

Hey James, at least me & your old boy didn't play "chess"

moody · 15-03-2006, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by efgiar

from my experience, stock EF ghia, against a stock vt exec = i win. commodores have more tourqe but less power, thats what keep them up with the falcon.

???? since wen?
they rev like ИИИИ to 6000 to get there peak torque wen ford gets the same at 4-5000

DanXR6T · 15-03-2006, 11:07 PM

I've driven a few VR/VS's and they don't like revving to 6000rpm at all....

It's all in the gear ratios, Commodores have a quicker 1st gear, simple. Thats how 4cyl cars can jump off the line quick cos they have the appropriate final and 1st gear ratios.

Falcons have much slower gearing in 1st gear. Auto that is.

Dan.

HOON69 · 15-03-2006, 11:48 PM

EF should win if my stock ea wagon OWNS a stocko VS i dont see why not

Kenaz · 16-03-2006, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by efgiar

commodores have more tourqe but less power

Hahaha

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Have you ever driven a V6 Commodore? A VS has something like 305Nm and a EF has about 357Nm. Trust me, I've driven a few (and owned one) and torque is something they are lacking.