Covid 19 -

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by CyberWasp

Don't worry.
The government are hard at work trying to figure out how this happened.
It will be all sorted.

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You know the saying - when you point your finger at someone, there are usually three pointing back.

[FairmontGS]

More countries close borders to the UK as new coronavirus strain breeds panic

British Health Secretary Matt Hancock said the strain was "out of control" around London and south eastern England, though experts have said it was not clear whether it is more lethal.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-...covid/13005500

[Tickford.]

Here we go again.... the US consulate in Sydney, together with state government, granted exemptions for US workers to fly into Australia (Sydney) and work on the air conditioning system at the US consulate.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/break...579b8567a466fd

Did I mention this is a US based strain?

[Tickford.]

And... VIC now has the northern beaches virus.

https://www.9news.com.au/videos/heal...410iocynzwxon6

Here. We. Go.

[Citroënbender]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

And... VIC now has the northern beaches virus.
…Here. We. Go.

Two points, two flats and a packet of gravel.

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

And... VIC now has the northern beaches virus.

https://www.9news.com.au/videos/heal...410iocynzwxon6

Here. We. Go.

A little bit more detail about this case has been released. Mother and daughter (Melbourne residents) drove down to Melbourne (Moonee Valley LGA) from Sydney's northern beaches very late Thursday night, or very early Friday morning. Daughter (15 years old) had been at several exposure sites, including the Avalon RSL and bowling club. They stopped at Gundagai's Oliver's Real Food on Thursday night. Daughter showed mild symptoms on Saturday, so decided to go and get tested. A positive result was received on Sunday.

Since they arrived before the border restrictions, there's no record of them arriving in Melbourne. Only decided to get tested because daughter showed symptoms.

If the daughter didn't show symptoms, she could've been out in the community, and potentially spread it around in Melbourne. How many others have arrived in Melbourne from NSW hot spots before the border closure? How many will be willing to do the right thing and get tested (specially if they're NSW residents), knowing that if they return a positive result their Christmas and New Year plans are done and dusted??

Well done to the mother and daughter for doing the right thing by getting tested, and telling contact tracers exactly where and who they had exposure with.

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

A little bit more detail about this case has been released. Mother and daughter (Melbourne residents) drove down to Melbourne (Moonee Valley LGA) from Sydney's northern beaches very late Thursday night, or very early Friday morning. Daughter (15 years old) had been at several exposure sites, including the Avalon RSL and bowling club. They stopped at Gundagai's Oliver's Real Food on Thursday night. Daughter showed mild symptoms on Saturday, so decided to go and get tested. A positive result was received on Sunday.

Since they arrived before the border restrictions, there's no record of them arriving in Melbourne. Only decided to get tested because daughter showed symptoms.

If the daughter didn't show symptoms, she could've been out in the community, and potentially spread it around in Melbourne. How many others have arrived in Melbourne from NSW hot spots before the border closure? How many will be willing to do the right thing and get tested (specially if they're NSW residents), knowing that if they return a positive result their Christmas and New Year plans are done and dusted??

Well done to the mother and daughter for doing the right thing by getting tested, and telling contact tracers exactly where and who they had exposure with.

^^^ I Agree..
Bet there's a lot of less honest people who got out of Sydney about the same timeframe with symptoms who haven't bothered to get tested..

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

A little bit more detail about this case has been released. Mother and daughter (Melbourne residents) drove down to Melbourne (Moonee Valley LGA) from Sydney's northern beaches very late Thursday night, or very early Friday morning. Daughter (15 years old) had been at several exposure sites, including the Avalon RSL and bowling club. They stopped at Gundagai's Oliver's Real Food on Thursday night. Daughter showed mild symptoms on Saturday, so decided to go and get tested. A positive result was received on Sunday.



Since they arrived before the border restrictions, there's no record of them arriving in Melbourne. Only decided to get tested because daughter showed symptoms.



If the daughter didn't show symptoms, she could've been out in the community, and potentially spread it around in Melbourne. How many others have arrived in Melbourne from NSW hot spots before the border closure? How many will be willing to do the right thing and get tested (specially if they're NSW residents), knowing that if they return a positive result their Christmas and New Year plans are done and dusted??



Well done to the mother and daughter for doing the right thing by getting tested, and telling contact tracers exactly where and who they had exposure with.

21000 arrivals from Sydney into Melbourne between 11 Dec and 22 Dec.

We hold our breath.

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Someone posted that New South Wales streets are half empty.

That's because the other half of New South Wales... has left New South Fails!

To be honest I really don't care to comment on NSW's strategy within their own state. They will do what best works for them. What I care about is what are they doing to help stem the flow of people at risk from spreading into other "clean" areas and states.
What happened the last few days could all be hype and hysteria over nothing....or it could be a wuhan moment....no one knows and there are too many unknowns. Their residents panicked and "escaped" in droves.
This virus has an incubation period and won't know the full impact until another week or so.

Even if the "new cases" remain low over the next couple of days, my bet is that the states won't reopen borders until about a week after New Years. They'll want to see the impact of Christmas and NYE activities. There are also still a number of "mystery" cases not linked to the cluster, which epidemiologists are very concerned about.

[Citroënbender]

I haven’t heard personally of anyone fleeing as implied.

A lot of people have been waiting to go places prior to this outbreak, if they’re domiciled away from the “epicentre” why wouldn’t they have gone?

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Someone posted that New South Wales streets are half empty.

That's because the other half of New South Wales... has left New South Fails!

.....so someone posted and low and behold its a fact and all over Sydney - people I know incl my wife is out there and elsewhere, it is not half empty barring I expect the northern beachs due to lockdown, its busier than you think under the circumstances.
Turn it up mate, it wouldn't be NSW streets I expect you mean Sydney streets but thats how you read it somewhere without thinking, you talk rubbish so many times.

[FairmontGS]

NSW records only 8 new Zombies against record testing of 54,000.

All from known sources with one Healthcare worker infected.

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

NSW records only 8 new Zombies against record testing of 54,000.

All from known sources with one Healthcare worker infected.

Might want to re-check your numbers.

This is why you shouldn't get information from Facebook posts.


edit: Added correct data.

[FairmontGS]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Might want to re-check your numbers.

This is why you shouldn't get information from Facebook posts.


edit: Added correct data.

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Cheers, yes I had 54,000 versus actual 44,000 tested.

I know how much importance you place on accuracy

https://www.fordforums.com.au/showpo...postcount=8414

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

NSW records only 8 new Zombies against record testing of 54,000.

All from known sources with one Healthcare worker infected.

from 9news 11.36am FGS
https://www.9news.com.au/national/co...f-7d6463815ff6

have there been any deaths reported to date ?

[FairmontGS]

Originally Posted by FTE217

from 9news 11.36am FGS
https://www.9news.com.au/national/co...f-7d6463815ff6

have there been any deaths reported to date ?

Not that I've heard. I'm sure it would/will be big news when/if it does happen.

[cs123]

Pretty good news out of sydney. Let’s hope it’s contained

I think Christmas and NYE will be a risky time.

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by cs123

Pretty good news out of sydney. Let’s hope it’s contained

I think Christmas and NYE will be a risky time.

Christmas and NY + holidays was always going to be risky even without the recent outbreak, human is human.
Some just don't respect whats doing the right thing.

[Mr_G6ET]

Originally Posted by cs123

Pretty good news out of sydney. Let’s hope it’s contained

I think Christmas and NYE will be a risky time.

Unfortunate (terrible) timing with coming, I am guessing many will risk it, associate pretending they can handle it and 'wing it'

Contained in a week or two would be miraculous to say the least

[russellw]

Data valid as at 23:59 GMT December 21st, 2020.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting.

26 new cases for Australia and 0 deaths so the CMR is 3.220%. NSW recorded 23 cases, Vic, Queensland, WA & ACT recorded 1 each.

5 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.179% and active cases 59.

The UK had a lower 33,364 cases yesterday and 215 deaths.

Just over 189k new cases in the USA yesterday and 1,476 deaths sees CMR drop to 1.778% and active cases at 40.1% with the raw numbers rising and now over 7.3M. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
Global deaths pass 1.7M with the last 50k in 5 days;
North America passes 21M cases;
The USA completes 236M, India 162M, Russia 86M, UK 50M, France 31M, Spain 25M, Iran 7M, Chile 6M and Azerbaijan 2M tests.

Only:
Namibia (585) - 35% above the previous high; and
Russia (29,350)

... recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive days.

[tweeked]

Is there an extra zero in the global last 5 day death number Russ??

[Charliewool]

When was the last Covid death in Australia?
(Serious question....) We have like 15 on average per day (similar population to Victoria)

[russellw]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

When was the last Covid death in Australia?
(Serious question....) We have like 15 on average per day (similar population to Victoria)

The last recorded death in Australia was on November 30th so 23 days ago but that was an older one that had been missed. Otherwise the previous one was October 28th.

[russellw]

Originally Posted by tweeked

Is there an extra zero in the global last 5 day death number Russ??

There was and it's fixed now.

In other statistical news:

Greece has had a bad time lately and their CMR has almost doubled to 3.235% as had their deaths per 100k which is now at 40.842.

Slovenia has also doubled the rates although they aren't as bad at 2.238% and 114.433.

The countries with the worst CMR (only counting populations above 500k) are: Yemen (29.057%), Ecuador (6.761%), Sudan (6.315%), Bolivia (6.23%), Egypt (5.646%), China (5.336%), Liberia (4.666%), Iran (4.621%) and Afghanistan (4.1%). The global average is 2.199% and Australia is still above that with 3.22%.

In fairness, the CMR of most of those is slanted because they have very low test percentages with Yemen (0.6%), Ecuador (4.04%), Sudan (0.0%), Bolivia (3.3%), Egypt (1.0%), China (11.1%), Liberia (0.78%), Iran (8.45%) and Afghanistan (0.47%). The global average is 14.2% tested and Australia is at 41.77%. Note: as some people have had multiple tests this does not imply that 41% of the population have been tested but it is a useful comparison with other countries.

A better indicator is cases per 100k of population. Again, only counting countries over 500k population we have: Slovenia (5,112), Bahrain (5,135), Armenia (5,199), Belgium (5,400), USA (5,574), French Polynesia (5,818), Czechia (5,860) and Luxembourg (7,165) the worst. The global average is 998.4/100k and Australia has had 110.5/100k. There are 18 countries below 10 cases / 100k; 159 below 100 cases / 100k; and 117 countries above 500 cases / 100k.

In terms of mortalities per 100k, the global average is 21.95 with Australia at 3.56 and the worst affected countries with more than 500k population being: Belgium (160.7), Italy (114.4), Slovenia (114.3), Bosnia (112.9), Peru (112.5), North Macedonia (111.0), Spain (105.3) and Montenegro (100.3). The USA narrowly misses that list with 98.66/100k.

There are now 217 countries with at least 1 case although 24 of those have had no deaths. There are a further 47 countries with less than 2 deaths / 100k; 29 between 2 and 10 deaths / 100k but also 80 countries with more than 20/100k.

[buggerlugs]

This just shows how out of touch Trump was with the virus......
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-...pital/13002874

[Tickford.]

Interesting to note, the Oliver's Real Food outlet at Gundagai NSW, the one where the positive case visited on Thursday, has a "Closed due to power outage" sign at the door today!!

Not a sign stating they're closed due to COVID exposure on this day / time, deep cleaning in progress, please go and get tested, etc. etc. - but because of a "power outage"?? WTF?

I can't confirm this, but apparently they have remained open as usual since Thursday, until this morning. So no deep cleaning happening there, just closing of the doors.

[ford71V8]

What is with this thread turning people into disrespectful jerks?


It is the thread doing this right?

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by ford71V8

What is with this thread turning people into disrespectful jerks?


It is the thread doing this right?

#covidiots

[GasoLane]

And this seems like a good time to remind everyone about AFF's Site Terms & Conditions.

Specifically

3. Posts that are disrespectful or insulting to another forum member. Remember that everyone is entitled to their opinion as long as it is expressed in a reasoned manner.

Any more will be deleted.

[FairmontGS]

Just how....? It's boggling to the mind

Coronavirus cases recorded in Antarctica at Chilean research station

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-...ctica/13007596