FG X, The Last EVER Falcon - Picture & Discussion Thread - Page 242

responsef6 · 08-08-2014, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

The XR8 is a bloody ripper. Goes hard.

Have you test driven? How does it compare to fg gt?

Bossxr8 · 08-08-2014, 11:52 PM

I've never driven one so I can't compare, but i'd say it would compare pretty bloody well with an FG R spec.

Bobman · 08-08-2014, 11:59 PM

But is it quicker than an XR6 Turbo?

Wonder if police will go back to the XR8 with this last model.

Sioso · 09-08-2014, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by boss engine

that looks really nice...Is there any chance you can get a clearer picture?? i.e. without the glare. CHeers

Its not clearer but doesn't have the glare:

Sioso · 09-08-2014, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by bigwil

Any chance of a photo of the front cover

Front cover just has the picture Ford already released of the XR8 from front on.

graphicgoose · 09-08-2014, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Adrenaline

There seems to be a bit of luck going on with FGs. My XR6T had a fair few warranty claims over 3 years of ownership- diff bushes (every service), failed turbocharger, broken diff cradle, split joiner at throttle body (boost leak), failed tail shaft, failed rear left driveshaft, failed diff, perished front UCA bushes, faulty steering rack, alarm box fell off (lol), condensation seal, broken HIM lever cam, faulty instrument cluster, broken seat base, faulty BEM, sump oil leak, warping brake rotors (constant), faulty window switch, warped glovebox, seat belt retractor failure, noisy fuel pump, rattling door trims (bad plastic welds), faulty belt tensioner, failed power steering pump, faulty external temperature sensor, faulty AIM, iPod connector disintegrated, faulty rear sonar, rattling front wheel arch linings, faulty horn. A lot of the time I just repaired it myself, the apprentices sometimes created more problems than they fixed. Or I'd leave the car at Ford all day only to return and have them say "could not replicate fault".

The XR6 NA which still remains has been the complete opposite on the reliability front, virtually nothing to report in 50,000km. However the XR6 before that was a bit of a dud (I put it down to being an earlier build in the FG run). Last year I said I was more than likely done with Falcons, but I'll probably give the final model a shot.

Reminds me of this poor guy and his Porsche:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eXUnZrykDY#t=12

brismike · 09-08-2014, 12:35 AM

Took this pic in Toronto a couple of days ago . . It Is a Chrysler 200 .. from the rear very similar to the new Falcon I think.

Cheers Mike

superfly · 09-08-2014, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

I had one that was virtually faultless too. Just because yours is good so far doesn't mean you won't encounter issues. Most new cars will have issues small or large.

It's funny that my first new car I bought in 1989 a Hyundai Excel had very little issues with it. My new 1993 Hyundai Lantra was also ok but my 1994 new Hyundai Sonata had a few little issues like trim replacements.

Then my second hand Subaru Liberty RS had major tappet noise issues. My second hand 99 Subaru WRX (bought at 2 years old and 11K on the clock) had a number of trim issues. Needed new seats, door trims and whole other list of warranty claims such as loose hoses.

My XR50 has also had a few issues. Around 1K, there was a loud rattle behind dash (was rubber surround for A/C pipe had fallen off). For a long time I had front end creaking noise issues (was loose engine mounts). Then another loud front end noise (I think it was a sway bar issue). And currently it's in with Ford to get the ICC checked as it likes to make noises whilst I'm stationary.

But I think the car has been great. If I had the cash, I'd put my money down for a new one in a flash and get rid of the missus WRX. Value for money, the Ford is excellent. It's still my favourite car by far.

**Professor Farnsworth** · 09-08-2014, 01:22 AM

i still think they're great too - took mine for a long drive today and it did really well

good to see you've broken the myth of the XR50 being put together better that some people were suggesting though lol

Hawkeye84 · 09-08-2014, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by brismike

Took this pic in Toronto a couple of days ago . . It Is a Chrysler 200 .. from the rear very similar to the new Falcon I think.

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Cheers Mike

Im sorry mate, but should have gone to Specsavers.........they look nothing alike

fgpsi · 09-08-2014, 04:07 AM

I'm over the cgi. Doesn't do it justice I think

OLD BALDY · 09-08-2014, 08:59 AM

As the EXPERTS said before, They are similar, 2 tail lights, exhaust pipes, glass back window, radio aerial and the list goes on, since all you complainers (smarter than Ford designers) have carried on I have taken more notice of rear ends (not female) around at the moment and in my opion there is none better than the new FALCON!!!

XWGT · 09-08-2014, 09:41 AM

I'm not convinced on the rear spoiler , it screams VX to me for some reason but I'll wait to see it in the flesh

Bossxr8 · 09-08-2014, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobman

But is it quicker than an XR6 Turbo?

Wonder if police will go back to the XR8 with this last model.

Absolutely.

I doubt the police will buy them though as they should be a lot more than an SS or XRT.

LooLoo18 · 09-08-2014, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by superfly

It's funny that my first new car I bought in 1989 a Hyundai Excel had very little issues with it. My new 1993 Hyundai Lantra was also ok but my 1994 new Hyundai Sonata had a few little issues like trim replacements.

Then my second hand Subaru Liberty RS had major tappet noise issues. My second hand 99 Subaru WRX (bought at 2 years old and 11K on the clock) had a number of trim issues. Needed new seats, door trims and whole other list of warranty claims such as loose hoses.

My XR50 has also had a few issues. Around 1K, there was a loud rattle behind dash (was rubber surround for A/C pipe had fallen off). For a long time I had front end creaking noise issues (was loose engine mounts). Then another loud front end noise (I think it was a sway bar issue). And currently it's in with Ford to get the ICC checked as it likes to make noises whilst I'm stationary.

But I think the car has been great. If I had the cash, I'd put my money down for a new one in a flash and get rid of the missus WRX. Value for money, the Ford is excellent. It's still my favourite car by far.

I havent had 1 issue with my XR50 Im on 102,000ks Ive had it since new I am starting to get a little nervous about what Im hearing with the auto's so Im looking at getting an after market heat exchanger in the next week or 2

Wretched · 09-08-2014, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by XWGT

I'm not convinced on the rear spoiler , it screams VX to me for some reason but I'll wait to see it in the flesh

Add to the fact that the rear of the new falcon doesn't need a wing/spoiler. It looks like it was designed with the intentions of not needing a spoiler.
I find these additions ruin the aesthetics of the car.

usernametaken · 09-08-2014, 01:02 PM

spoilers on Aussie cars are so 90's

Dr Smith · 09-08-2014, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Absolutely.

I doubt the police will buy them though as they should be a lot more than an SS or XRT.

Plus Holden will do anything and everything to maintain police sales.

CyberWasp · 09-08-2014, 01:05 PM

What is the colour of the XR8 in the magazine? Is it Tangerine Scream

Dr Smith · 09-08-2014, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by brismike

Took this pic in Toronto a couple of days ago . . It Is a Chrysler 200 .. from the rear very similar to the new Falcon I think.

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Cheers Mike

Not really, but hey look in the background, someone's put Chevvy badges on a Holden Caprice........please note massive scarcasm...

Walt Kowalski · 09-08-2014, 01:13 PM

So Ford is not releasing a V8 ute because "V8 utes haven't sold well for them over the last few years"

Ford hasn't had a V8 ute to buy for years-ever since they dropped the 5.4 truck engine. FPV is another manufacturer and the FPV GS Coyote has a 1600Kg tow rating so it's useless to many potential buyers like me.

At a time when Holden will make a killing releasing a Supercharged LSA ute to be the fastest of all time Ford decides that they will not offer a V8 ute version. Pure genius. NOT. But very frustrating and typical of the way Ford has been out of touch with the market for years.

Focused · 09-08-2014, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by brismike

Took this pic in Toronto a couple of days ago . . It Is a Chrysler 200 .. from the rear very similar to the new Falcon I think.

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Cheers Mike

Yep, a chrome strip, red tail lights and two exhaust pipes... Almost identical... ;)

P6LTD351 · 09-08-2014, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Walt Kowalski

So Ford is not releasing a V8 ute because "V8 utes haven't sold well for them over the last few years"

Ford hasn't had a V8 ute to buy for years-ever since they dropped the 5.4 truck engine. FPV is another manufacturer and the FPV GS Coyote has a 1600Kg tow rating so it's useless to many potential buyers like me.

At a time when Holden will make a killing releasing a Supercharged LSA ute to be the fastest of all time Ford decides that they will not offer a V8 ute version. Pure genius. NOT. But very frustrating and typical of the way Ford has been out of touch with the market for years.

You contradicted yourself a little. You said FPV was another manufacturer. Well, so is HSV. Holden is NOT releasing this new ute.

Focused · 09-08-2014, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Walt Kowalski

So Ford is not releasing a V8 ute because "V8 utes haven't sold well for them over the last few years"

Ford hasn't had a V8 ute to buy for years-ever since they dropped the 5.4 truck engine. FPV is another manufacturer and the FPV GS Coyote has a 1600Kg tow rating so it's useless to many potential buyers like me.

At a time when Holden will make a killing releasing a Supercharged LSA ute to be the fastest of all time Ford decides that they will not offer a V8 ute version. Pure genius. NOT. But very frustrating and typical of the way Ford has been out of touch with the market for years.

Ah.... how much are you expecting that the Holden/HSV Ute will be able to tow?

Generally speaking, Ute buyers who want a work horse buy entry level Falcon Utes. Those wanting more of a two-door performance car usually choose the Commodore (IRS and IMO it looks better).

#Russ#Es# · 09-08-2014, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by brismike

Took this pic in Toronto a couple of days ago . . It Is a Chrysler 200 .. from the rear very similar to the new Falcon I think.

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Cheers Mike

Maybe the spec savers guy should go to spec savers, there are many details that are similar.

**Fordman1** · 09-08-2014, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by #Russ#Es#

Maybe the spec savers guy should go to spec savers, there are many details that are similar.

Too right.

A boot, two tail lights, a chrome strip.

Yeah it's identical.

Bossxr8 · 09-08-2014, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberWasp

What is the colour of the XR8 in the magazine? Is it Tangerine Scream

No. It's a new gold colour.

Gadgetman · 09-08-2014, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

They wont shut up shop until there is a replacement for the Territory ready to go. Broadmeadows is now, and has been for a while now, all about the Territory. Its what sells and Falcon is just the bit player now. Territory is worth too much volume for them to not have something like in the range, so until the new Edge or Everest is available, they will still be making cars.

What about when Everest lobs. That's due 4rd qtr 2015? and isnt Mondeo due here 1st qtr 2015? Game over Local production. How the ***** is Falcon gonna sell next to a New Mondeo on the showroom floor in 2015 after all the diehards have bought falcons between november and feb? Game over. If you want one and wait till 2016 to get one, you wont cause they wont be around.

Walt Kowalski · 09-08-2014, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by P6LTD351

You contradicted yourself a little. You said FPV was another manufacturer. Well, so is HSV. Holden is NOT releasing this new ute.

Yes! You are correct.

OK how about FPV release one last special Ute?
And make it 2300Kgs towing please.

Walt Kowalski · 09-08-2014, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Focused

Ah.... how much are you expecting that the Holden/HSV Ute will be able to tow?

Generally speaking, Ute buyers who want a work horse buy entry level Falcon Utes. Those wanting more of a two-door performance car usually choose the Commodore (IRS and IMO it looks better).

My frustration with ford must be showing. LOL. Probably only 1600Kgs if that.

There are plenty of buyers who buy performance utes that prefer the Ford because of it's better work tray, tie down system that doesn't buckle under a ratchet strap like the Holdens, cart suspension and towing capacity. Take a look in the paddock at any Circuit race meeting. It has plenty of Ford XR utes, way more than SS and HSV utes. Even when the guys that race an LS engined car. Kinda like boat race meetings. F150 galore but race Chev engined boats.

I've been frustrated with Ford not listening to buyers for years and it probably shows. I'd love a Coyote Ute.