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Join Date: Oct 2006
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If Subaru were smart they would release their car pronto, while there is a bunch of impatient customers... and ramp up production.
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Steve
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Maybe Subaru is concerned about WRX/Impressa sales ?
It makes me wonder that they may have underestimated the 86's popularity and entered into the arrangement with a slight arrogance regarding their line up's Performance heritage and now their pants have been pulled down. They would be better going the other way and make their version a HI-PO product and sell it with warranty. Make it $39k with 206kw and see what happens.
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NOT A TOYOTA :/
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All built in the same factory. There won't be any ramping up of production as I would imagine it would already be going 24/7.
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Wait until you have a missus and kids and then you’ll realise that it’s the best time to have a two door. …they can’t fit and you have to leave them at home.
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Long live the inline 6
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Haha love the advice Full Noise, will definitely remember that one if ever I do get married!
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That's like saying there's one factory in Australia that pushes out both VE Holden & FG Ford vehicles isn't it - vehicles in direct competition with one another.
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Joint venture to save money.
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NOT A TOYOTA :/
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Toyota owns a controlling stake in Fuji Heavy Industries, the company that owns Subaru.
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Captain Malcolm Reynolds
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Ahh so kinda like the Button Plan again? Astra/Pulsar; Camry/Apollo; Nova/Corolla; Commodore/Lexcen (my favourite); etc etc etc now BRZ/86 hey?
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You can add the Nissan XF ute to that list, as well as the Kia Ford Festiva etc ;)
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Restoration Garage
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Back on topic.. Just spotted the first one i'v seen on the road. Verdict? Looks even better in real life.
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NOT A TOYOTA :/
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Can't understand how many people in NSW don't spend the extra few $$s for the black and white slim plates as opposed to yellow and black which clashes with pretty well everything.
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Barra Turbo > V8
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NOT A TOYOTA :/
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Awkward.
(but my point still stands)
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So motor is conducting their annual bang for your buck comp atm.
Track testing is happening atm even though its not a public event. Info is that a ecoboost fg falcon lapped in virtually the same time as the 86.... |
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Saw a white one the other day from the rear, best looking butt I've seen on a truck for some time. This is the beginning of Toyota's final world domination!
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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they look pretty lame to me
as far as looks go the hyundi veloster turns more heads at the moment. |
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Peter Car
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It even has low grip tyres to help enhance balance, so no doubt Toyota have nobbled it, most likely for reasons of cost. Based on that, track times just don't seem to be its forte, nor acceleration times, nor much else really, except balance. The irony is that 99.99999% of people who buy an 86 wouldn't even know what balance is, they would buy one just for the pose factor. Toyota need to hurry up and build a Supra with the BMW 335 engine in it, that would be a real sports car. Good chance it will happen now that Toyota and BMW are working together on a new sports car. Get the balance of the 86 in a car that actually has grunt and grip and it will be a cracker. Now I await the fanbois response of how "i just don't get it" ![]() |
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Did you even bother to read the articles or just select the bits that fit your opinion ? Its lap times were quicker than the SV6 and only 2 secs off the WRX with AWD and 48kw, 138nm advantage. |
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Barra Turbo > V8
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The tracked the cars at Wakefield and their best lap was (fastest to slowest was):
1. Scirocco R @ 1:12.0 2. WRX @ 1:14.2 [brakes packed it in after 2.5 laps] 3. Clio RS (Angel/Demon Edition) @ 1:14.5 4. 86 GTS @1:16.0 5. SV6 @ 1:16.7 6. MX-5 @ 1:17.0 Should be noted that the Clio was a special edition, with grippier tires then any other car there... Give the 86 the same tires....
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Regular Member
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One thing about the 86 is the low final drive ratio, it sits around 3000rpm at 100KPH in 6th and 1st gear tops out around 60kph
By comparison, I took a Mazda 3 Turbo Diesel 6 speed for a drive yesterday, it sits on 1600rpm at 100KPH, but flooring it in top gear from 1600rpm it would outrun, well, a whole lot of other cars. It has similar torque to the Falcon while we'd still really like to have an 86, looks like we will be going for the Mazda 3 TD
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