FG X, The Last EVER Falcon - Picture & Discussion Thread - Page 286

FGX335 · 29-08-2014, 09:59 AM

Well, if it comes with all the goodies you've listed, I may have to stretch to that figure. Was hoping for closer to $50K but I think it will be worth the spend.

stevefreestyle · 29-08-2014, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Brembo's standard? Noooooooooooooooooooooo. Hope they got some of those knock-offs or are going to be very nice on the cost of them because thats just popped the RRP up too.

Don't forget that with FPV out of the FPV/Ford partnership, Ford would benefit with greater cost efficiency from the elimination of FPVs profit share ($20-$30K per car at a wild guess?). Ford were also paying FPV to build the BOSS Engine (5.4 XR8/GT & 5.0 Miami) engines, now done in-house.

Perko · 29-08-2014, 10:13 AM

Agree with Dash on this one. Somewhere between $54-$55K plus on roads would be about right. Even if the figure was mid to high $50K's look at what you get. A GT in a FGX suit (which by the way looks bloody great) with some tech upgrades. That is damn good value for money in anyone's language. If you are expecting $50K I think you are going to get a surprise and really that extra few thousand is worth it. Otherwise sit back and wait for the secondhand market to open. Just you may be waiting for a while. This is going to be a great car and no more after 2016. I know I am not letting go of mine.

kazawaki · 29-08-2014, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Its all but a GT-R spec...which IMO is just as fast as a GTF on any given day.

Not so sure it will get the suspension set up of an R-spec or GTF.

futura · 29-08-2014, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Perko

Agree with Dash on this one. Somewhere between $54-$55K plus on roads would be about right. Even if the figure was mid to high $50K's look at what you get. A GT in a FGX suit (which by the way looks bloody great) with some tech upgrades. That is damn good value for money in anyone's language. If you are expecting $50K I think you are going to get a surprise and really that extra few thousand is worth it. Otherwise sit back and wait for the secondhand market to open. Just you may be waiting for a while. This is going to be a great car and no more after 2016. I know I am not letting go of mine.

my advise will be if you want a new XR8, and can afford it dont waste any time. Place your order. Coming 2016, there might be dealers charging XR8s at GT prices. I placed my deposit for my GTF long before ford confirmed there was going to be a GTF model.

The FG X XR8 will the best bang for buck along side the XR6 Turbo.

chookaradley · 29-08-2014, 10:28 AM

There will be little or no negotiation on price for the XR8. Undoubtedly the hero car of the FGX range. Only 2500 HI-PO ZF's available for it and its turbo counterpart. It will be pitched as a competitor for the SSV Redline and you would think priced accordingly. Expect a decent waiting time and a very close to RRP purchase price on the XR8.

NAK302 · 29-08-2014, 11:42 AM

just wondering if it is officially called FGX?

**Polyal** · 29-08-2014, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kazawaki

Not so sure it will get the suspension set up of an R-spec or GTF.

Maybe not...but maybe..Ford do have a history of sharing settings and just giving them new part numbers to make it look like there is a different tune. Would make financial sense to use as much as they can from the R spec and GTF.

FGX335 · 29-08-2014, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GT-0733

just wondering if it is officially called FGX?

It is officially the FG X. So the XR is the FG X XR8, awkward hey?

I like FG X, but paired with the XR8/XR6/T, it is a little clumsy.

NAK302 · 29-08-2014, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by FGX335

It is officially the FG X. So the XR is the FG X XR8, awkward hey?

I like FG X, but paired with the XR8/XR6/T, it is a little clumsy.

ok thanks mate.

fgx xr8 does sound a bit more clumsy than, say, fh xr8.

Cashie · 29-08-2014, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GT-0733

ok thanks mate.

fgx xr8 does sound a bit more clumsy than, say, fh xr8.

Or FG Series 3 XR8

XBv8mmm! · 29-08-2014, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DASH GT

An SS Redline is $53690 plus on roads and dealer delivery.

In QLD that equates to around $59,000 on the road.

I expect XR8 will be similar and that you could probably negotiate one for $57,000.

I have a deposit down for the XR8.

Hoping that it is some where around $55-56 k drive a way.
If it's more, I'm in the s#@t. Don't think the leader of the opposition will stretch the budget to closer to $60 k.

kazawaki · 29-08-2014, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by XBv8mmm!

I have a deposit down for the XR8.

Hoping that it is some where around $55-56 k drive a way.
If it's more, I'm in the s#@t. Don't think the leader of the opposition will stretch the budget to closer to $60 k.

Pity your not in Victoria,i have some nice plates available XRGRT 8

FGX335 · 29-08-2014, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by XBv8mmm!

I have a deposit down for the XR8.

So what happens with the deposit? Does it give you any advantages? Haven't ever done that on a car I don't know the price of, so I'd be interested to hear.

NanoDuke · 29-08-2014, 05:31 PM

Just secures a car for you. And possibly be able to choose a colour, but if it's going to be like the launch of the Fiesta ST then dealers only get a handful of colours to sell. But it's also possible for the dealers to swap colours between yards.

~Duke

XBv8mmm! · 29-08-2014, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FGX335

So what happens with the deposit? Does it give you any advantages? Haven't ever done that on a car I don't know the price of, so I'd be interested to hear.

I just wanted to get in early, given what some in the know have said about the scarcity of engines and transmissions for the V8 and it means that I've payed $1000 of the car already.

Having said that, I was told the other day by the new car manager at the local Ford dealer, that I was the only one, so far, in the ACT with a deposit on the new XR8.

Tbm1121 · 29-08-2014, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by XBv8mmm!

I just wanted to get in early, given what some in the know have said about the scarcity of engines and transmissions for the V8 and it means that I've payed $1000 of the car already.

Having said that, I was told the other day by the new car manager at the local Ford dealer, that I was the only one, so far, in the ACT with a deposit on the new XR8.

I took a deposit for a blue manual, no firm price, just means when the time comes to order for the dealership the order goes in with the first lot, which we haven't done yet.
When it comes to price you should negotiate once they have pricing, but if they are decent people they will come too you with a good price first

Uwish · 29-08-2014, 08:54 PM

LOLs at worrying about securing one. FFS have a look at the sales of the Falcon and GT.
Dismal to say the least. YES the GT-F sold out but how many people are trying to make a dollar out of them. They have no heritage what so ever.
The XR8 will be great value for performance.But that is where it ends. Interior falls behind and most normal car buyers rate interiors ahead of .5 off a 0-100 time.

futura · 29-08-2014, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Uwish

LOLs at worrying about securing one. FFS have a look at the sales of the Falcon and GT.
Dismal to say the least. YES the GT-F sold out but how many people are trying to make a dollar out of them. They have no heritage what so ever.
The XR8 will be great value for performance.But that is where it ends. Interior falls behind and most normal car buyers rate interiors ahead of .5 off a 0-100 time.

"No heritage what so ever" so the numbers 3 5 1 don't ring a bell

Not everyone is selling there GTF to make money. Just for the record my GTF is not for sale.

Auslandau · 29-08-2014, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Uwish

LOLs at worrying about securing one. FFS have a look at the sales of the Falcon and GT.
Dismal to say the least. YES the GT-F sold out but how many people are trying to make a dollar out of them. They have no heritage what so ever.
The XR8 will be great value for performance.But that is where it ends. Interior falls behind and most normal car buyers rate interiors ahead of .5 off a 0-100 time.

Cheers for you insight

It is more the case of securing one as early as possible .... not the fact that they may miss out. People have done this for all models. This one is just that little bit more special ...... !

BHDOGS · 29-08-2014, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by futura

"No heritage what so ever" so the numbers 3 5 1 don't ring a bell

Not everyone is selling there GTF to make money. Just for the record my GTF is not for sale.

Dont listen to him jealousy is a *****.

**PepeLePew** · 29-08-2014, 11:16 PM

Dealers predominantly seem to be trying to make a dollar out of GTF and Pursuit. It's crap, but it's business to them. No real need to jump down a guys throat because wants to get in early. I got in early on my PX Wildtrak and won on price. Makes sense if your hearts set on something. Don't worry plenty of choice elsewhere if it's not your thing and other forums to haunt

usernametaken · 29-08-2014, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PepeLePew

I got in early on my PX Wildtrak and won on price.

Hi,

How does that work?

Typically, getting in early means you pay more for the privilege of having the first ones on the street...

**PepeLePew** · 30-08-2014, 12:18 AM

Not when a shortage eventuates that wasn't foreseen and the pricing leaps to RRP or cya later.

Bossxr8 · 30-08-2014, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kazawaki

Not so sure it will get the suspension set up of an R-spec or GTF.

Here's some food for thought. Ford only have one suspension/DSC spec for a car with 275 mm rear tyres.

Changing a normal XR spec to suit the wider rears and re-calibrating the DSC to suit would cost millions.

So what's the cheapest, easiest option?

apolloxbgt · 30-08-2014, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Here's some food for thought. Ford only have one suspension/DSC spec for a car with 275 mm rear tyres.

Changing a normal XR spec to suit the wider rears and re-calibrating the DSC to suit would cost millions.

So what's the cheapest, easiest option?

Comfirms what I was told when I was photographing the others.

FGX335 · 30-08-2014, 01:33 AM

Getting excited again! Wallet doesn't sound happy with me though.

stevefreestyle · 30-08-2014, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Here's some food for thought. Ford only have one suspension/DSC spec for a car with 275 mm rear tyres.

Changing a normal XR spec to suit the wider rears and re-calibrating the DSC to suit would cost millions.

So what's the cheapest, easiest option?

Interesting !!! Re-calibration would cost extra $$$

As Calibration involves Power input & Suspension tune, should we interperet this as 335 Kw & R-SPEC Suspension confirmed?

Syndrome · 30-08-2014, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stevefreestyle

Interesting !!! Re-calibration would cost extra $$$

As Calibration involves Power input & Suspension tune, should we interperet this as 335 Kw & R-SPEC Suspension confirmed?

Those Bosch engineers charge a packet to recalibrate the DSC.

moparodbuster · 30-08-2014, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Tbm1121

I took a deposit for a blue manual, no firm price, just means when the time comes to order for the dealership the order goes in with the first lot, which we haven't done yet.
When it comes to price you should negotiate once they have pricing, but if they are decent people they will come too you with a good price first

What would be a decent price in relation to dealer msrp?