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I'll offer $3000. Even a xf was light years ahead in technology.
The price can't be real surely. Should I buy a BMW m3 or xc cobra says the man with $130k |
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yeh the xc is nice looking this is the same ad as http://australianmusclecarsales.com....lm?query=cobra is looks alright but little expensive.
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The Fleet 1999 AU XR8 4sp adaptive shift, Black, Momo T-bar and S/wheel, Bodykit, 17" wheels, Sunroof - 180Ks - THE DAILY 1995 EF XR8 Manual ![]() 1986 XF Fairmont Ghia 4.1L EFI Regency Red, trip computer, venetians - 163Ks ![]() 1979 P6 LTD 351, Goldust - 185Ks 1989 Mazda MX5, Red 1.6L, 5sp manual - 102Ks |
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Try finding an immaculate 32 ford tell what thatll cost ya Maybe a 36 3 window ford or a 1957 chev ??? But a 50s vauxhall, worth nothin To say the later stuff is worth money and perhaps increasing I dunno i just bought an ED for $100 Complete and driveable, straight no rust, im not keepin it all wrapped up to retire with, that ill guarantee Yet on the other hand the XC i bought a few years ago, thats lucky to have done maybe 50 Klms in that time, is increasing in value near daily |
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XC Cobra worth what in 3,5,10 years ??? I got offered an XC Cobra about 5 ish years ago, 1 owner been shedded all its life For 30K What would i have bought at the time that would appreciate near 5 times in 5 years New cars are a depreciating item, hard to compare what depreciates Vs something that appreciates |
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I enjoyed my V8 XBs, XCs and XDs when I had them and I don't need to spend a fortune
on one now because the memories of all the great trips done in them lives on. When you're in the nursing home and someone is advertising a FG XR8/GS/GT for a million bucks, don't be sad because right now, you have the opportunity to own one for reasonable money so don't miss the chance. |
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trust me, from experience, one coupe is worth at least 3 late model cars. technology doesn't even come into it - the wow factor on the other hand |
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Not really. if the owner truely appreciated it he would keep it. its a pure money grab to sell it, try pass it onto another sucker/enthusiast. ask someone impartial what they would pay, a non ford enthusiast. they would simply laugh at the suggestion.
Suddenly the owner dont want it when they.think they can cash in. Why is it worth something? Ask yourself that. it was all of $5000 when brand new. Cars depreciate and new models get better and better. I just dint understand paying money for old cars. fairs fair. |
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i think they started out at roughly $8000. no one but the dealers bought them for that though, because the dealers bought them privately and then doubled the price for the first genuine sale - and they still sold like hot cakes. if they were that popular when brand new, then over 30 years later it is obvious that they would be more popular
some don't like old cars, but some do there are many reasons why someone would sell and really who cares why this one is. if he sells and the new owner is happy, then where is the problem |
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What the hell? First you say that someone who sells a car doesn't appreciate it, disregaurding bills, garage space, spouse and priorities etc...lets face it somepeople don't see the point in holding on to a car when all it does is sit there, why not make a tidy profit. And the reason why these cars increase in value is the same with any other collecters item, antique etc. X amount made with a degree of story and rarity attached to it. Being the last of the X coupes and due to Mad Max, and now love the beast there is wider appriciation of this type of car. You have your 18 year olds in the 70's whom lusted after one of these cars, yet things like weddings, houses kids etc prevented him from buying one. Now, he has paid of his house, kids have gone, jobs good and he has spare money, he goes out and looks for a coupe. You can't go doen to a Ford dealer and buy a new XC cobra, you have to find one. The owners of these Cobras know that X amount of people want Z amount of cars, and know that the people have money willing to spend. Phase 3 falcons ony got to the 600k+ prices only because 1 person paid 120k for one, the nest person selling one puts a higher price up and so forth... etc...can't be bothered
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If that logic held a shred of truth, I wish I could buy a GTHO for what, $5000?
![]() When something is not made anymore, be that a corncob pipe or a GTHO, it's up to the owner what he wants to part with it. It's then up to the buyers to decide whether they want it badly enough to pay the price asked. I paid $3000 for that little '65 50cc Vespa...a rediculous price some might say, but it was fully restored and I had always wanted one for sentimental reasons (my late father started out riding one in the sixties). The "small frame" Vespas were a dirt cheap "throw away" form of transport...when they went badly wrong, you just junked it and bought something else. To find one in the 21st century, in pristine running order, fully resto'd, makes it worth the money. I just sold an old non-running incomplete 1966 Yamaha 180cc Sport Twin on Ebay for $710 after a frenzied bidding war between five buyers. I'd have been happy with the starting bid of $400, but those guys obviously wanted it badly. Supply and demand. If there's no supply, but strong demand, it's a sellers market and you can be as altruistic or as greedy as you like. Old cars are worth money for several reasons. Rarity, desireability, style, and history. The XY GTHO, GTS Monaro, Chargers, Toranas, and 2 liter Escorts (like the RS2000) fit all these criteria. There are also rarities nowadays from unexpected quarters...try finding a good unmolested XD S-Pack V8, or, even harder to find, something like a VB SLE Commodore with the 4.2 V8 and a five speed manual with desireable options like the 15" alloy wheels and four wheel disks. They did exist in reasonable numbers back then, but quickly dropped off the scene as newer owners started modifying and changing them around with new paint and body kits. Good luck prising a good original one out of the hands of an owner if he's got a good one. Thankfully there will always be people who think old cars are worth more than thier scrap metal value and worth preserving so a younger generation can appreciate something thier dads used to talk of in reverant terms. |
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A car is only what it's worth to the actual buyer. If I'd won lotto last night I wouldve gladly paid 120K for that mint Cobra.
Alot of younger people on here just arent clued up on real Aussie Muscle Car history to fully appreciate the ill handling/faded braking/rip roaring 70's (and some 80's) true muscle cars. I suggest to anybody who owns a late model car that no matter what it's worth and no matter how good it drives and handles, you CANNOT beat the feeling of cruising in an old school muscle car. That is PRICELE$$..... (And that is one reason why some of us are prepared to pay "ridiculous" amounts of money for one of these cars, rather than paying the same amount of money that would buy 3 or 4 late model performance vehicles)
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We just purchased a 2003 cv8r Monaro.
Why it's a great colour combo and there Are only 150 made in the 6 spd manual. So these will be a collector car in another 15/20 years and we are prepared to hold onto it For that long and the market has fallen that much it was worth while paying what we paid for a car with 72,000 kms. My 1968 V8 falcon 500 wagon I picked up cheap ( original engine) It has factory drums all round and no booster with the cruiseomatic Badge on the back and cruiseomatic cast in the column shift indicator. The old wagon's Not to everyone's taste but kids as young as 7 or 8 still frigging love it especially the front and rear bench seats so the theory young people won't Know about these cars I disagree you all remember remembrance dayWhy? Cause it's history and history is obviously passed down through generations. So the same will happen with these cars. There would be hardly any falcon 500 factory V8 goons left if many were made most people just went the Fairmont. I could have sold the old goon hundreds of times and mostly to people between 16-28 years of age.
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People who love old school muscle cars don't buy them for their performance or safety features compared to today's cars. It's about more than that. Most buy these older cars because they're the cars they grew up in, the cars their dad had or were the cars to have in their day. I guess it's about being reminded about a time when things were simpler, riding around as a kid with your old man in muscle car which you thought was awesome. For a lot of these old cars they aren't perfect, have to be restored, or need repairs which gives them a personality and if you restore, repair and maintain these cars yourself they do become a part of you. The satisfaction you get from taking something old and run down and making it new again and driving it around is awesome. Also driving these older cars there's a rawness to them, you seem to feel closer to the car, you hear the engine working, the gearbox clunking, when the doors shut they sound solid not tinny. If there's a problem, chances are you can fix it yourself.
Owning these classic muscle cars is so much more than their performance, safety, comfort. Is the cobra worth $100,000, maybe, to the right person probably yes. |
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at the end of the day it is what someone is prepared to pay for it like any collectable item. the law of supply and demand applies with collectables and it only takes 1 buyer to make the item worth his asking price. it is a rare collectable car and it valuable to those that are into this type of car yet to others it is just an old car.
there is no doubting this is a cobra that is truly unique being the template for a model it is also the 5.8 and as the base cobra was a 4.9 it is classed as the performance version of the cobra. if the loto gods were kind to me this car would be mine in a heartbeat along with a few other collectable fords ( it's nice to dream)and many would be critical of the waste of money. But who has the right to be critical of someone elses passion if it does no harm to others?
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Ask anybody about a 57 Chev and most males over 8 can pick one out and they keep going up in price. Just look at some of the early VW's and the price people will pay for them, I have seen 18 year olds trying to buy a 1970's Kombi and pay good money. If a Kombi is interesting to an 18 year old, I think classic muscle cars will be as well. |
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The M3 might drop in value but the personal experiences you have playing with it are what life is about. One day (if you are lucky) you will be sitting around in an old peoples home telling stories of all the things you did NOT all the things you wished you could have done but wasted your life. You think you might get $150k for a Cobra provided you can find someone who actually wants one that bad but as yet it has not been sold whereas ANYONE who bought silver ingots 5 years ago for between $5 & $6 /oz can sell them easily for more than 5 times that. (I have one left I am keeping as a trophy) |
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The reason it MIGHT be worth 135k is because someone MIGHT pay 135k for it. At this point it hasnt sold so until it sells for 135k it isnt worth 135k to that seller, it is just the advertised figure that he is prepared to let it go at. However a buyer who pays 135k is making the argument for the seller that it is worth 135k to that seller (or whatever it sells for). The new owner might be disappointed to find no-one else is prepared to pay that, so once again it is no longer worth 135k. Then again, someone might think its worth 200k and the seller only tries to sell it for 90k, bargain, to that buyer. Its only a problem if you buy it to make money, and get it wrong. Supply and demand is a fickle beast. |
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this is priced more like what they are worth(in my opinion) http://www.fordmusclecars.com.au/vie...sp?ItemID=9149
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gee there has been some dribble in this thread.
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