UFO CONSPIRICY "MARS". LIFE EVERYWHERE

[Rodp]

John Lear sounds like an utter wackjob. Sounds like he's either a Scientologist or about to launch a whole new cult based on his nuttery.

All the planets in our Solar System have atmosphere's and blue skies? Does he know what makes the sky blue?! Obviously not.

Venus's atmospheric pressure is roughly 90-100 times that of Earth which consisting mostly of Carbon Dioxide which makes the planet absolutely uninhabitable! The Ruskies landed a probe on Venus which was able to survive for a little over 2 hours and recording a temperature of ~460C and 85ish atmospheres IIRC. From the surface, the atmosphere of Venus looks Orange! No water on Venus! Typically, I buy a new telescope 2 weeks ago and haven't had a single cloudless night to have a peek at it either. :(

I'm interested in facts and not the rantings of a loon who thought The Matrix was a documentary.

[gtfpv]

Originally Posted by Rodp

John Lear sounds like an utter wackjob. Sounds like he's either a Scientologist or about to launch a whole new cult based on his nuttery.

All the planets in our Solar System have atmosphere's and blue skies? Does he know what makes the sky blue?! Obviously not.

Venus's atmospheric pressure is roughly 90-100 times that of Earth which consisting mostly of Carbon Dioxide which makes the planet absolutely uninhabitable! The Ruskies landed a probe on Venus which was able to survive for a little over 2 hours and recording a temperature of ~460C and 85ish atmospheres IIRC. From the surface, the atmosphere of Venus looks Orange! No water on Venus! Typically, I buy a new telescope 2 weeks ago and haven't had a single cloudless night to have a peek at it either. :(

I'm interested in facts and not the rantings of a loon who thought The Matrix was a documentary.

you havent listened to the clips have you , you are commenting on something you havent heard . john lear says he cant believe that people never questioned a parachute landing in 800 degree temps at 90 x earhths atmo pressure , this is impossible . like trying to parachute to the bottom of the ocean . he makes a good argument . you dont .
i should point out that he claims it's all a fabricated lie anyway. and says that humans can live in its earth like atmosphere , how do we really know .

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

you havent listened to the clips have you , you are commenting on something you havent heard . john lear says he cant believe that people never questioned a parachute landing in 800 degree temps at 90 x earhths atmo pressure , this is impossible . like trying to parachute to the bottom of the ocean . he makes a good argument . you dont .
i should point out that he claims it's all a fabricated lie anyway. and says that humans can live in its earth like atmosphere , how do we really know .

I haven't listened to all of them, no. I also don't plan to. What I watched was just so loony tunes that it wasn't even interesting in watching from a nutjob perspective and I'm quite partial to listening to nutjob theories if they're interesting.

I also don't plan to propose an argument against the nutjob, because quite frankly I find it a monumental waste of my time arguing something with someone who's not here to argue back.

[sfr rob]

just right click on the browser where you enter the web address in, click copy link then in here right click in the text box and click paste.

what footage are you referring to, I want to see the ufo in the window thing.

[gtfpv]

Originally Posted by sfr rob

just right click on the browser where you enter the web address in, click copy link then in here right click in the text box and click paste.

what footage are you referring to, I want to see the ufo in the window thing.

ok i'll try and find it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcHHl_m8ocg

[kremmen]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

ok i'll try and find it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcHHl_m8ocg

this was a promo advert for the sci fi channel in america.

an ad = fake.

[burnz]

UFO CONSPIRICY "MARS". LIFE EVERYWHERE
sorry but i couldn't help but laugh at your title.
but it got my attenion.

[Psycho Chicken]

How anyone can dismiss the moon landings is beyond me. There are devices that have been left there that you can bounce lasers off. Hell I'm sure you could see the landing sites if you've got the right gear.

[burnz]

Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

How anyone can dismiss the moon landings is beyond me. There are devices that have been left there that you can bounce lasers off. Hell I'm sure you could see the landing sites if you've got the right gear.

i beleve the moon landing too many fact's too mention.
but mars life everywhere!

[gtfpv]

Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

How anyone can dismiss the moon landings is beyond me. There are devices that have been left there that you can bounce lasers off. Hell I'm sure you could see the landing sites if you've got the right gear.

i watched a clip on youtube of claimed astronouts walking through a building on the moon . the same spot on the moon always points to the same spot on earth as they rotate in synch . apparantely according to john lears some points arent visible from earth . like i said it's all in the 12 continuing clips .

[sexr6tasy]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

i watched a clip on youtube of claimed astronouts walking through a building on the moon . the same spot on the moon always points to the same spot on earth as they rotate in synch . apparantely according to john lears some points arent visible from earth . like i said it's all in the 12 continuing clips .

I believe he is referring to the dark side of the moon that is never visible to earth so on this matter he is correct.

[MO]

There are more stranger things in heaven than on earth and much more than the feeble intellect on here can fathom.

[Falcon Coupe]

Declassified Soviet footage-Mig vs Ufo cylinder


http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...q=ufo+cylinder

[burnz]

http://www.honeysucklecreek.net/Apollo_11/index.html
seem real to me

[gtfpv]

and another. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtCUivFzMN0

THIS ONE IS INCREDIBLE I THINK.

[Outbackjack]

Those crazy aliens!!!

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

and another. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtCUivFzMN0

THIS ONE IS INCREDIBLE I THINK.

Incredible in what way though?

[Outbackjack]

Originally Posted by Rodp

Incredible in what way though?

Incredibly annoying!!!

[kyro_02]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

and another. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtCUivFzMN0

THIS ONE IS INCREDIBLE I THINK.

that video go very annoying !!! was O.D'n me

[Psycho Chicken]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

and another. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtCUivFzMN0

THIS ONE IS INCREDIBLE I THINK.

They're freaking birds.....

[Van D]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

and another. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtCUivFzMN0

THIS ONE IS INCREDIBLE I THINK.

Looks like birds or something to me.

[gtfpv]

HERES THE 4 john lear ones . #1 , #2 , and #11 and #12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKRYnswV8ow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIbyo...elated&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG73c...elated&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rmqJ...elated&search=

[gtfpv]

this one was made by HSV . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i9grhd2Ais

[big_pete]

looks like birds to me aswell - incredible birds!



what about bigfoot? do people think they are real or have any experiences with them

[savagE]

The people who originally got Bigfoot evidence were in fact lying. Their Niece or something after the people had died told everyone that it was an elaborate hoax.

[Psycho Chicken]

What evidence? The video that picture is from? Because one of the guys who filmed it is still alive.

[BlueRaven]

I had the sense of dejavu when I started hearing about harvesting souls and grey and what not.

Many many years ago, my dad stumbled across a document on the Internet called "The Matrix". I thought it was odd, as The Matrix (movie) had already been released - but this document was scanned from a photocopy from 1988 - so it wouldn't surprise me if The Matrix title paid hommage to this document.

If you can spare the time to read through all of it - it explains lots of things about the different known alien species and their intentions. I haven't read it in years, but I do remember a lot of information about the Men In Black (another movie, hehe) that suggested they were actually aliens themselves.

Anyway, go here http://www.theblackvault.com/documen...ix/matrix0.htm or try and find a PDF document.

There is a torrent with PDF files of the Matrix series, as other books are in the series which apparently deal with a lot of other aspects of our conciousness and mind control, etc.

It twigged when I thought about our souls apparently going to the moon and I remember reading about an alien species that exisiting in a different dimension, able to use our souls for energy - or something of the sort.

http://www.theblackvault.com/article22.html - This is a good intro to the Matrix document with some extra information. Here is the opening paragraph..

"The document I am sending you is the first version of 'The Matrix" that was passed around in 1988-89 in Xerox copies. Later editions were published and organized in a more professional manner, but this was the first and all the information of this kind that we had then. I got the copy from a man who stopped by on his way to the LA UFORUM meeting from Tucson (I'm trying to thin of his mane-Roger something. Maybe Roger Shurur). When he stopped by he also told me other things-this was in early 89-and he told me that there would be a student uprising in China, that the Berlin wall was coming down and that Russia would give up communism. I thought he was a total nut. A couple of years later I finally asked him how he had known those things ahead of time and he was completely mysfified and did not remember telling me them."

[Outbackjack]

There is no doubt in my mind that there is life on distant planets. But no evidence of it will ever be found on the internet.......

[gtfpv]

Originally Posted by Outbackjack

There is no doubt in my mind that there is life on distant planets. But no evidence of it will ever be found on the internet.......

why is that mate . ?? i'm sure you could tape an alien having dinner at your place , which would be evidence, then post it here or anywhere on the net , and no one would believe it . doesn't mean it's not evidence .
i think they only way people would believe it is if one hovered over everyones house in the world at the same time . and i might add ( rightly so )

[BlueRaven]

Obviously 1988 predates the internet in its current form...