What is SIDI Direct Injection? - Page 3

Swordsman88 · 04-04-2011, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KuRT12

You are severely misguided. I am a Holden man, but i am not bias and i know were to put credit were it is deserved. i currrently drive a VE SIDI SV6 and am considering buying an 5.0L GS later this year.

I'll think you'll find that there are only a few one eyed ****** (on both sides of the fence) that love to make a lot of noise.

From reading your above posts you appear to be one.
Oh the hypocrisy.

Good to see some holden guys on here. Provides another perspective on things in particular holden cars which its easy to abuse amongst ford fans when alot of guys (myself included) haven't even driven them.

I think engine wise there is no doubt that SIDI has been a big improvement (more on some models than others) over what holden had before. So if you upgrading from a previous VE (or a pre-FG falcon) than you will get fuel burn savings most likely that are noticeable, which is great. The 3.6 SIDI is also no slouch so another plus.

The problem for me is that the rest of the package is not as good as the FG based on what i've found driving them, what others have told me and critical reviews. In addition, the 3.0 SIDI has struggled to beat 6sp auto falcon's by enough of a margin to justify its lower performance. Unlike the 3.6SIDI that gives great punch (if more revy than the I6) the 3.0 needs to be beaten a fair bit harder based on my understanding. The now infamous drive.com.au bathurst fuel economy test was evidence of that.

It is this latter reason my sig calles it 'successful in decieving individuals'. The gain in fuel efficiency and performance may have been there versus previous base VE powerplants but it aint there versus many competitors. I think the EB 2.0I4t falcon will rip the 3.0 SIDI a new one in just about every way imagineable. I see recent reveiws of the updated captiva say the newly fitted 3.0 SIDI engine is pretty average in that car too. DI isn't a saviour for poor engine design...and the alloytec (3.0 size especially) is now a long way from world's best. The fact a 3.7 non-DI duratec V6 matches or exceeds it in just about every measurment is proof of that at least, let alone fact it struggles to beat the venerable 4.0L I6....

stevz · 04-04-2011, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcman0o7

Sorry guy's i knew what SIDI direct injection was i just wanted to see how many of you would think it was a bit stupid and made it sound better.

And right here is proof of how much of an immature moron you are.

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Originally Posted by svo supporter

Mods and OP. My apologies for my abrubtness. Comments that people like this member make are pure childish and shouldn't be accepted on the forum, regardless of it beng a Ford based forum.

Errr, why are you apologising to the OP, he is the OP!

GS608 · 04-04-2011, 10:35 PM

I think most people here are forgetting that the SIDI has enough punch for average joe and the difference between Fords I6 and Holdens V6 is really not much at all these days..very similar economy and power. Works in Holdens favour as a 4L Inline 6 sounds old tech and very thirsty therefore won't even get a look in..hopefully EBI4T is the saving grace..unlikely given the stigma attached to 4cyls in large family cars...

4vxc · 04-04-2011, 10:52 PM

the technology for this was deleloped by Mercury Marine for GM years ago

Falcman0o7 · 05-04-2011, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by svo supporter

You're one of these one eyed nitwits that need to get your head upright, instead of it pointing down wards.

Fact is, all makes (and that's not limited to just Fords and Holdens) have their good points and their bad ones. It's just people like you that can't be bothered finding out where the good points are.

So I'd suggest you keep your smart alex comments to yourself and grow up. You're acting like a school kid with your carry on.

Mods and OP. My apologies for my abrubtness. Comments that people like this member make are pure childish and shouldn't be accepted on the forum, regardless of it beng a Ford based forum.

Oh sooky sooky...Why apologise? it's a FORUM. Where we all have our opinions. That was mine.

Falcman0o7 · 05-04-2011, 04:52 AM

So i must be due for another ban then? It seems the going thing for expressing yourself on here.

93EB_SXR6 · 05-04-2011, 05:04 AM

Whenever people say EBI4 twin turbo, I think of a 1992 falcon with an inline four twin turbo engine.
LOL, off topic but still it made me chuckle.

sudszy · 05-04-2011, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PoweredByCNG

In actual fact, DI engines emit higher levels of NOx than port injected engines. This is because AFRs tend to be leaner, reducing the efficiency of the TWC.

problem is actually two fold, lean burn engines emit more NOx and twc's dont work too well in reducing nox with excess Ox(lean burn) in the stream. It would be better to write,

"reducing the effectivenss of the twc in reducing NOx", the "efficiency" of the twc remains unchanged.

regardless, we'd have to assume that the have been able to meet emission regs with this engine, your point is that they need more/expensive equipment bolted on the exhaust to do that?

svo supporter · 05-04-2011, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by stevz

Errr, why are you apologising to the OP, he is the OP!

Oops made a slight mistake. So I'll correct it. Sorry to the mods for my abruptness.

svo supporter · 05-04-2011, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Falcman0o7

Oh sooky sooky...Why apologise? it's a FORUM. Where we all have our opinions. That was mine.

True it's your opinion, all be it an opinion that school kids play out. So it really shows how immature you really are.

Me apologising. It's for the abruptness, rather than for your immaturity. Your immaturity is something only you can sort out.

Falcman0o7 · 05-04-2011, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by svo supporter

True it's your opinion, all be it an opinion that school kids play out. So it really shows how immature you really are.

Me apologising. It's for the abruptness, rather than for your immaturity. Your immaturity is something only you can sort out.

Immature? your to SQUARE. How old are you? 80...

Falcman0o7 · 05-04-2011, 09:41 AM

Sorry to all members. I forgot to be a simple simon that must think and have an opinion like the rest.
I'm not one eyed i was simply stating a fact that 90% of commodore fans are bogans that see fords as sh*# yet know nothing about them.
Go join them ya knob jocky.

stevz · 05-04-2011, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Falcman0o7

Sorry to all members. I forgot to be a simple simon that must think and have an opinion like the rest.
I'm not one eyed i was simply stating a fact that 90% of commodore fans are bogans that see fords as sh*# yet know nothing about them.
Go join them ya knob jocky.

Pigs behind you're not one eyed. 90% of your previous posts are mindless anti-Holden drivel.
Just because it's a Ford forum doesn't mean we can't appreciate other brands.
Seriously, grow up. I've seen more intelligence from pre-school children.