Car Hoons To Face Jail Terms - Page 3

Bobman · 04-12-2007, 04:01 PM

Yes, what is wrong with a "stand still" burnout on a wide road in a deserted Factory area with no homes for kilometres and no nearby traffic?

Who would that harm?

Not racing, a simple stand still.

Bobman · 04-12-2007, 04:04 PM

Agree with TUF514,

It's annoying and time consuming to be pulled over.

Police don't like wasting their time on "theft complaints" or other small crimes and often request that you attend the station because they're "too busy". So it's a waste of "our" time if we are pulled over when we are going about our daily duties.

By all means check rego, licence etc. There isn't always a need for a interception if everything checks out ok. Police even have a lot of peoples descriptions on their database which they can match to the person they are observing driving a particular motor vehicle.

4Vman · 04-12-2007, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TUF514

Yes it does matter if i get pulled up. It is frustrating and i would be fine if it happened " every now and then" but when it happens 7 times in 2 weeks? Come on, even you would be ****ed off.

I dont accept your point that, because my car has a bodykit, that it MAY have illegal modification. So what!

Again, IF and WHEN im involved in an accident, if my car is illegal, i shall pay the price.

Alot of people share my view, but are too afraid to say it.

It sounds to me like you draw unwanted attention to yourself, and further compound it by arcing up!

Maybe time to re-evaluate your approach and ask yourself honestly why you're pulled over so often?

sleekism · 04-12-2007, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LilMissDrift

ACAC, my dad has that tattooed on his left foot.. u know what that stands for ALL COPS ARE ----- well i think u can figure that out.. but its right!!! THEY ARE! Always have been!!!! I believe i got off "lightly" seeing as i had no previous criminal history, or nothin no speeding fines or anything.... but i think they should have taken what i said seriously, not for earnest!

Completely agree,

While you might have some good cops you always have a few with a chip on their shoulder. I have been followed so many times it's not funny and have had my car drug searched and my cap gun confiscated and my keys confiscated because I happen to be unlucky enough to be parked out the front of a mates place and had gone to get more grog out of the car. I didn't even have the keys (car unlocked) but they had a rant and rave.

Lucky I'm a happy drunk and had just drunk a bottle of tequila. Mates told me I was being all nice and calling the cops "mate" and they were getting ****ed because they had nothing.

The last thing we want to do is give cops more powers especially considering the discretionary powers they hold!

xquizd · 04-12-2007, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmc351

I assume from that if your car gets stolen you wont call the cops.

Yeah, Kennett put a lot of them there speed cameras in too.

And it was a Liberal fed govt for the last 11 yrs that helped stuff the NT speed limits up, by allocating road funding to having a speed limit. Hey, that was bi-partisan.

I'm talkn bout togs (NOTE THE DIFF!!!!)

xquizd · 04-12-2007, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vztrt

and here I thought that was Garlic Sauce!!

Im stating a point! thats were u'd fined crap like that, if you need oil on the road to rip one than ur cars not worth a pinch of crap in the first place, dats what im sayn, COMEDIAN. :-)

Hybrid34 · 04-12-2007, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stockoau

I owned a VK Mock, 308 3" exhaust, You could hear it coming a mile away. Alwas got looks from people I drove past, and even cops but because I don't drive like a ****er on the streets I never got pulled up. .

unfortunalty mate these days they only have to hear the rumble of our engine and where classified as hoons, and will get some sort of defect....

LilMissDrift · 04-12-2007, 04:12 PM

dont get me wrong, most the cars the "hooligans" are in a stock standard commodores, or r33 skylines.. how many are actually driving performance cars.. most the idiots are 25yr olds, turboed rigs, with full licences... go figure why theyre puttin restrictions on p platers driving a freakin laser, or barina..??

Hybrid34 · 04-12-2007, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HOON69

Police will be given the power to strip licences on the spot and offenders can be taken off the road for 12 months.

This I think is a bad idea, not saying all police are like this but your going to get a hero powerhungry cop, whereby minority of police will abuse this power....

LilMissDrift · 04-12-2007, 04:16 PM

ok ill let u'z in on something... my best mate (at the time of my accident) was a highway patrol officers daughter.. i got off lightly...

ok how many other people WOULDNT get off lightly???

TZENU · 04-12-2007, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hybrid34

This I think is a bad idea, not saying all police are like this but your going to get a hero powerhungry cop, whereby minority of police will abuse this power....

And that is where the problem lies; within that power hungry minority group..

TUF514 · 04-12-2007, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4Vman

It sounds to me like you draw unwanted attention to yourself, and further compound it by arcing up!

Maybe time to re-evaluate your approach and ask yourself honestly why you're pulled over so often?

Try not to read into things. Understand what i have said.

I have driven my falcon around unscathed for months, no problem AT ALL.

I drive this r33 with a kit on it, and i get harrassed.

Pulled up 7 times with no tickets issues.

sleekism · 04-12-2007, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LilMissDrift

dont get me wrong, most the cars the "hooligans" are in a stock standard commodores, or r33 skylines.. how many are actually driving performance cars.. most the idiots are 25yr olds, turboed rigs, with full licences... go figure why theyre puttin restrictions on p platers driving a freakin laser, or barina..??

Cos Lasers rule lol

Good old Grafton cops, couldn't even nab a Laser

sleekism · 04-12-2007, 04:35 PM

Seriously do not forget we are talking JAIL here. A mate has a place next to the jail and the screams of the new guys being “broken in” is enough to give you nightmares.

Are people seriously ready to submit people to bashings and rape in jail because they ripped a little burnout???

FFS I don’t know why we are arguing this.

People are getting bashed and raped and robbed walking home from the pub yet the biggest concern facing us is hoons???

As someone who has been nearly stabbed half a dozen times I am not amused at the distribution of police resources.

Go visit Grafton.

At night you can’t walk the streets without a group of mates. People are always trying to roll you and girls are getting raped a few blocks from the cop shop.

Where are the cops???

Patrolling the main streets looking for p platers to pull over. They even pull over push bike riders that’s how crazy it is!

4Vman · 04-12-2007, 04:41 PM

Does anyone seriously think a Magistrate is going to order someone to do time because they "ripped a little burnout" ?

Seriously.... talk about overreacting and dramatisation.....

AusM · 04-12-2007, 04:50 PM

This story is so much better with pictures:
http://performanceford.com.au/index....1102&Itemid=38

LilMissDrift · 04-12-2007, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleekism

Seriously do not forget we are talking JAIL here. A mate has a place next to the jail and the screams of the new guys being “broken in” is enough to give you nightmares.

Are people seriously ready to submit people to bashings and rape in jail because they ripped a little burnout???

FFS I don’t know why we are arguing this.

People are getting bashed and raped and robbed walking home from the pub yet the biggest concern facing us is hoons???

As someone who has been nearly stabbed half a dozen times I am not amused at the distribution of police resources.

Go visit Grafton.

At night you can’t walk the streets without a group of mates. People are always trying to roll you and girls are getting raped a few blocks from the cop shop.

Where are the cops???

Patrolling the main streets looking for p platers to pull over. They even pull over push bike riders that’s how crazy it is!

In fully agree.. when "parents" are too scared to let their kids go for a walk when its daylight is when u know its not a nice world and pigs are pr!cks! :P

Green X · 04-12-2007, 05:36 PM

yeah and i am sure when the KGB or Gestapo was formed people had the same view of if I do nothing wrong I will be left alone.

Ya just keep going with the flow untill one day you wake up with F all rights and find yourself paying fines cause you were scratching ya nuts wile driving and it's too late to do anything about it.

LilMissDrift · 04-12-2007, 05:38 PM

lol, the boys are always like u'z get away with murder coz u show em ur tits, im like wtf eva!! :P LOL damn males.. but as for scratching ur nuts and getting booked... hahahaha good call

gozza · 04-12-2007, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleekism

Seriously do not forget we are talking JAIL here. A mate has a place next to the jail and the screams of the new guys being “broken in” is enough to give you nightmares.

Are people seriously ready to submit people to bashings and rape in jail because they ripped a little burnout???

FFS I don’t know why we are arguing this.

People are getting bashed and raped and robbed walking home from the pub yet the biggest concern facing us is hoons???

As someone who has been nearly stabbed half a dozen times I am not amused at the distribution of police resources.

Go visit Grafton.

At night you can’t walk the streets without a group of mates. People are always trying to roll you and girls are getting raped a few blocks from the cop shop.

Where are the cops???

Patrolling the main streets looking for p platers to pull over. They even pull over push bike riders that’s how crazy it is!

Bwahahah - I was born and raised in Grafton - Your making it sound like Compton - I picture your voice getting higher and higher as less and less people listen to you
Are you on South or North - The only place i can imagine being 1 millionth as bad as you make out is CheckerBoard hill

ps - Cops wouldn't have too many P platers to pull over with the grand summary of all but 3 Major Highschools - Has Grafton got traffic lights yet LOL

pps -

there is only 1 Main Street

Deadman · 04-12-2007, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAGTp001

Im sick of this . We need our own political party.

I've thought of that a number of times. Simply by putting pressure on the politicians and threaten preferences based on which ever political side offers the best approach to road rules and enforcement.

i.e. Which ever political party out of Labor or Liberal offered the best approach to road safety and law enforcement would get the preferences from the 'Motoring' party at any election.

It would be very hard to make any impact as an actual party entity, but with the amount of votes from pure car enthusiasts etc, it could be enough to influence one of the major parties into doing 'some' things in the right direction, just to get the preference votes......

FPV8U · 04-12-2007, 06:05 PM

Disgusting lets fill our jails with people who might hurt people from their actions, instead of people who actully do hurt others...

This "Hoon" Legislation stuff is a joke, here all the smart asses were calling for more and more well here we go, caught doing a burnout twice and you face jail time... * Joke..

Keepleft · 04-12-2007, 06:16 PM

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegrap...001028,00.html

* Actual burnout fine = $1,100, aggravated at $3,300 etc

Quote:

CAR hoons in NSW will face jail terms if they rack up more than one
conviction for offences including dangerous driving and performing
burnouts and doughnuts, the state government said today.

Under the new laws foreshadowed today, fines for street racing and
aggravated burnouts or doughnuts will be increased up to $3300 and
hoons can be stripped of their licences for up to 12 months.

Car owners and parents will also be punished if their car is the one
used by the convicted driver.

The legislation will provide for the car to be confiscated and used in
crash tests if it is involved in three offences over a period of five
years.

Announcing the laws, NSW Police Minister David Campbell said offenders
caught a second time will face a prison term of up to nine months.

"These are tough measures aimed at stopping very dangerous and moronic
behaviour on NSW roads," Mr Campbell said.

"Car hoons would not only face losing their vehicles but also their
liberty, with jail terms of up to nine months for repeat street racing
and burnout offences."

Under current laws, hoons can be jailed only if their second offence
is more serious - such as colliding with another car or injuring a
person.

Police will be given the power to strip licences on the spot and
offenders can be taken off the road for 12 months.

"Not only are we increasing penalties but we're tightening the laws so
hoons can't get their cars back because they need their vehicle for
things such as work."

The anti-hoon package also includes a wheel clamping program, where
cars are immobilised and dumped in their yard at home.

NSW Police Minister:-
http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/pro...256760000CAA11

BAGp001 wrote:

Quote:

- Im sick of this . We need our own political party.

SINGLE ISSUE parties will NEVER win office, folk need to nag local MP's, that is what you pay them for.

irish2 · 04-12-2007, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PFdesign

This story is so much better with pictures:
http://performanceford.com.au/index....1102&Itemid=38

Nice link. Brings a laugh from an otherwise very serious thread.

phillyc · 04-12-2007, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merlin

So where is the jail time for repeat drink drivers (oh wait that would include a majority of their target voters age group) ? Am I to now assume that doing a burnout (not that I ever do as I dont get the point) is more dangerous than repeated drink driving offences?

Well, politicians, judges and socialites with political influence get done for DUI (many probably also escape with the public never knowing) so there is no chance they would bring in a DUI rule which is the equivalent of these hoon laws.

Since alcohol is attributed to 30% of fatal crashes this could be a much better way of dealing with road trauma. Just, well, it won't happen.

TUF514 · 04-12-2007, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Green X

Ya just keep going with the flow untill one day you wake up with F all rights and find yourself paying fines cause you were scratching ya nuts wile driving and it's too late to do anything about it.

That day has been and gone.

sleekism · 04-12-2007, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gozza

Bwahahah - I was born and raised in Grafton - Your making it sound like Compton - I picture your voice getting higher and higher as less and less people listen to you
Are you on South or North - The only place i can imagine being 1 millionth as bad as you make out is CheckerBoard hill

ps - Cops wouldn't have too many P platers to pull over with the grand summary of all but 3 Major Highschools - Has Grafton got traffic lights yet LOL

pps -

there is only 1 Main Street

Grove Street For Life!!!

Seriously South Side Mate. Ryan Street Crew

Dude you know that park next to the river on that cul de sac next to the cop station?? Chick raped there.

Out the back of Big W?? Chick raped there.

The Park across the road from the movies-guy strung up there.

I don't know when you moved away but you try walking over the bridge at night without being bashed.

When I was in Grafton there were p platers everywhere. People would come all the way from Coffs harbour to admire the four lane main street if you know what I mean.........