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Join Date: Nov 2005
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To hell with the car collectors, lets hope that petrol prices come down somewhat and stabilise, like after the 70's crisis!
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A few weeks ago there was a French movie on SBS, can't remember the name, that was made documentary-style. It was set a few years in the future where the price of oil now drives every possible part of life. Terrorism now targets oil almost exclusively and investors use oil, where whole companies collapse on it. All this stuff happens that makes everything worse and the whole technological world turns to crap, and we follow this one guy who was on top of it all as an investor and then forced to beg for a coffee like everyone else. It was a great and scary film. Did anyone else see it?
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: st albans
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4.9 EF futura......... whoe decides how much exise to take out of fuel?
Dosen't our tax pay for all those trips the politicians take? the $70 000 Statesmans they ride around in? The $100 000 a year pensions they recieve when they retire? The $200 a head lunches they have? If they bought hyundai getz's (low cost to buy and frugal fuel econony) for petes sake, how much MORE money would the government have to toy with? The money the government could cut from the fuel exise or GST would not ruin the budget.
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Heck, im a public servant myself but NEVER take advantage of the allowances etc. which we are provided with. An example - when travelling, we are technically allowed $80 per DAY for food etc. To hell with that, i get paid OK - i'll buy my own lunch thanks. I couldnt sleep at night if i were rorting the country like that. But even removing the statesmans, pensions, etc is still talking small amounts compared to the quantum we are discussing here. If it were to be offset by a reduction in the excise you're probably talking 0.005 cents per litre... The excise used to be indexed (i believe twice per annum) to inflation as measured by the CPI index. Excise indexation was aboloshed by the federal government in march 2001 (ironically - as a result of people whinging about rising fuel prices). Fixed at its current rate. At the time, as i recall, people were pretty impressed with the government's decision to do. Very few complaints that the excise would not be increased again. I dont recall any public requests to lower the excise.... until oil prices rose.... I guess what im saying is that we dont give the government much incentive to reduce the excise. They'll be cheered today but the international fuel price will rise again tomorrow and we'll be demanding further tax cuts. For how long would such a solution be viable?
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So does anyone think that oil will hit a price where it will peak out? i.e. the price will be so high that demand will drop dramatically? .. or is that just being simplistic?
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Who knows if that will happen, But in the meantime, fuel WILL hit $80 per barrel before financial year end. Those Sheik's need ANOTHER Bentley in their garage, gold plated...... |
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.. also, am I the only person who thinks a lot of this is the problem of sleazy stock market traders; i.e. the people who don't produce/manufacture anything, but appear to be "experts" in understanding future impacts of world events on oil? At least oil companies, resellers, govts, etc actually DO SOMETHING for the money get from us at the pump ..
Again .. too simplistic? |
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Not your average EF Wagon
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Just fueled up Shell 100 @ $1.547 in Cheltenham. It hurts, gonna start pushing to work soon.
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What do you expect - The Australian Government are nothing else but 'Revenue Raising Ar$eholes'.
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Mr. EFXR, what is the price difference between optimax and 100?
Our locals are all about the $1.37 for unleaded.
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They do have a slight impact on the price... more a result of the futures trading on NYMEX (new york mercantile exchange... i.e. commodities market)... futures contracts tend to lead the spot price to a self-fulfilled prophecy. More to do with small, short term volatility tho... they have little to do with the overall trends of the price... I saw one of the traders on the news last night saying that "$75 sounds like a nice, round number"... so if that's his trading strategy then let's see what happens to the spot price.... they were claiming the rest of april and first few days of may will see little/no relief at the pump as the refineries change their process around this time - something to do with different processes between winter and summer in the northern hemi...
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Shelf life for fuel... a few months~a year in a jerry can for the mower before it goes off, not sure on large quantities.. |
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^ what's your GST rate in NZ (or VAT... whatever its called) ??
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GST, 12.5% plus all the other crap they put on for Auckland roads. Not sure what the deal with Diesel is.
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people compain about paying so much tax, but i bet you wont regret paying it when you loose your job and have to use social sucurity, or when your in hospital with huge medical bills |
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Lol - have a squiz at the fuel excises paid in the middle east... negative... i.e. the government pays for their fuel with massivie subsidies. Massive subsidies.
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I know WA has fuelwatch that shows them the cheapest price in WA. Does anyone know if the other states have similar & if so what the web address is?
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i just payed 149.9 for bp ulitmate, i dont mind though
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Some good posts by EF_dave and 4.9_EF_FUTURA. Getting closer to reality.
There seems to be alot of misinformed post here about the tax structure on fuels. Petrol pricing is quite complicated, but nowhere near as complicated as the OIL price. I'll quote one of my previous posts (with updates) on the subject as we're just covering the same ground. Now lets get some facts straight. Quote:
1 post is by far not enough to try and explain how it all works and to convince us all that the governement are almost powerless in improving the situation. |
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The agenda driving the crisis you speak of was totally political. Today's situation is a true supply/demand scenario that is not likely to improve anytime soon. The great hope is that there will be some new oil fields found and able to be brought into production. There is great opportunity in Australian waters, off New Zealand and elsewhere around the globe, it's juts a catch22, the higher the price of OIL goes, the more it costs to find and produce it. |
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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stop b1tching fuels expensive big deal
all i can say is when i get a turbo car ill be fvcken broke lol meh ,bring on the daily drivers...
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