GWM Ute..anyone looked at them closely? - Page 4

jstanovic · 12-10-2021, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

What do you mean?

Are you suggesting the Ranger is expensive because if so you might want to look it up, for what it is with the extras its actually cheap compared to the other 80 examples of XLT Hi rider on Carsales.
Its also pre DPF which is what i wanted.

I know what the market is like. I'm saying the GWM is cheap, compare the GWM to a 5yo 90k 4x4 Ranger and the Ranger would be much more!!!

pottery beige · 12-10-2021, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

Well, im stoked to say i picked my new baby up tonight and im in love, what a machine.
I hereby fall on my sword and take back every negative word ive ever said about Ford, you guys build seriously great vehicles with Australian input.

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BENT_8 · 12-10-2021, 05:58 PM

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Champagne comedy good Sir, I'll have to pay that PB.

BENT_8 · 28-10-2021, 09:53 PM

Poor old girl got pummeled by the hail out our way today, roof, bonnet, tops of both drivers side doors, right front guard.

Its comprehensively insured and we've lodged a claim, they reckon some specialist dent repair mob will iron it out.
Bloody better be as i'll be running a straight edge over it when they're done.

Good luck is all i can say, wasn't a dent or scratch on it before today and im sure the dealer we bought it from 3 weeks ago will confirm that.

Bloke we spoke to said he'd taken over 50 claims himself today in our area alone from the hail.
Went to the local shopping centre this evening and row after row of cars looked like golf balls.

I know you mob from up north/east cop this regularly but its fairly rare here in SA.

Citroënbender · 28-10-2021, 10:40 PM

Rotten luck, but I suggest you push for a total loss. Otherwise you’ll be complaining about the repairs here until you sell it in six months.

naddis01 · 29-10-2021, 02:24 AM

I've had a vehicle that needed hail repairs which had hundreds of dents. They did the paintless dent removal and after it was done you wouldn't have even know there was any damage. I was very happy with the outcome.

BENT_8 · 30-10-2021, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

I've had a vehicle that needed hail repairs which had hundreds of dents. They did the paintless dent removal and after it was done you wouldn't have even know there was any damage. I was very happy with the outcome.

To be honest i wouldn't mind if they do straighten it out, we absolutely love the thing, but its got to be as straight as it was.
I think we got out of it lightly to be honest compared to some i've seen since, probably less than 100 strikes in total and not really that deep.

Spoke to the Dealer we bought it from and they said they'd be more than happy to vouch for the condition of it if it comes to that.

**janddbone** · 30-10-2021, 11:51 PM

Just go a Triton...

naddis01 · 31-10-2021, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

To be honest i wouldn't mind if they do straighten it out, we absolutely love the thing, but its got to be as straight as it was.
I think we got out of it lightly to be honest compared to some i've seen since, probably less than 100 strikes in total and not really that deep.

Spoke to the Dealer we bought it from and they said they'd be more than happy to vouch for the condition of it if it comes to that.

You'll be surprised how many dents it has when you get it in there to be repaired and they stick the light on it. You can see so many more that you can't see without the light.

hayseed · 12-11-2021, 10:28 PM

https://www.drive.com.au/news/safety...-in-australia/

Franco Cozzo · 12-11-2021, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by hayseed

https://www.drive.com.au/news/safety...-in-australia/

I wonder how many Mitsubishi Express vans are still on the road

Dr Smith · 13-11-2021, 08:36 AM

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I wonder how many Mitsubishi Express vans are still on the road

ah you mean the Renault clone..widow maker...and now if AEB is going to be mandatory for a 5 star rating it would probably get a negative star rating.

GTP534 · 13-11-2021, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

To be honest i wouldn't mind if they do straighten it out, we absolutely love the thing, but its got to be as straight as it was.
I think we got out of it lightly to be honest compared to some i've seen since, probably less than 100 strikes in total and not really that deep.

Spoke to the Dealer we bought it from and they said they'd be more than happy to vouch for the condition of it if it comes to that.

We bought a Maxima in 2000 that came with a $10K discount as it had hail damage. Dealer also arranged and paid for the paintless dent removal and honestly, afterwards, you couldn't pick it had ever been damaged.

The only panel replaced was the bonnet because it wasn't possible to get to all the dents due to the reinforcing braces/structure and even then matched the paint perfectly.

BENT_8 · 13-11-2021, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GTP534

We bought a Maxima in 2000 that came with a $10K discount as it had hail damage. Dealer also arranged and paid for the paintless dent removal and honestly, afterwards, you couldn't pick it had ever been damaged.

The only panel replaced was the bonnet because it wasn't possible to get to all the dents due to the reinforcing braces/structure and even then matched the paint perfectly.

My Wife's cousins has a current model triton that was badly damaged during the recent storm, apparently the insurer has said they're replacing the bonnet and will unpick the roof and replace that too.
Not sure i could own a vehicle thats had the roof unpicked and replaced, if they suggest that to us it'll be moved on as soon as its repaired.

Tassie f100 · 13-11-2021, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

My Wife's cousins has a current model triton that was badly damaged during the recent storm, apparently the insurer has said they're replacing the bonnet and will unpick the roof and replace that too.
Not sure i could own a vehicle thats had the roof unpicked and replaced, if they suggest that to us it'll be moved on as soon as its repaired.

Whats the difference between a factory spot welded roof skin and a replacement spot welded roof??

Tonz · 13-11-2021, 10:31 PM

robotic quality V Bazza doing weekend cash jobs

Eaturbo · 13-11-2021, 10:33 PM

Why would you when you can buy a new Triton with 10 years warranty and better resale. That and the Chinese government are **** and are sending some Australians broke. Would rather walk.

Tassie f100 · 13-11-2021, 10:48 PM

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robotic quality V Bazza doing weekend cash jobs

Yeah and I reckon we have all seen robot welding where the weld has completely missed one side of the join.

BENT_8 · 13-11-2021, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tassie f100

Whats the difference between a factory spot welded roof skin and a replacement spot welded roof??

The difference is id know and my confidence in the vehicle would be diminished.

They might be able to guarantee the workmanship against defects but after they've unpicked all those spot welds and reworked them with the new panel can they guarantee the structural integrity in the event of a rollover etc. with my family onboard with evidence to back it up?

Or is it a case of she'll be right mate and if so, why cant i buy stat write offs and have them repaired if i too say she'll be right mate.

Citroënbender · 14-11-2021, 03:02 AM

I would have complete confidence. Factory specs are clear for these repairs and the vehicle structure more than suited to the process.

However as I said on October 28th and reiterate now, you will be unhappy.

Dr Smith · 14-11-2021, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

The difference is id know and my confidence in the vehicle would be diminished.

They might be able to guarantee the workmanship against defects but after they've unpicked all those spot welds and reworked them with the new panel can they guarantee the structural integrity in the event of a rollover etc. with my family onboard with evidence to back it up?

Or is it a case of she'll be right mate and if so, why cant i buy stat write offs and have them repaired if i too say she'll be right mate.

Are they unpicking spot welds on the skin panel or sectioning off parts of the actual body frame? Skin panels shouldn't be the biggest concern for structural integrity, it's the passenger cell framework which carries the structural loads. Our previous Terry had a gum tree land on it and the panel dents were not of concern to them but rather the damage below skin.

BENT_8 · 14-11-2021, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Citroënbender

However as I said on October 28th and reiterate now, you will be unhappy.

You think?

I drive it now and dont even think about it, id rather they fix/replace the hanging panels, give us a few k as compensation and leave the roof alone, no one looks up there anyway and they really arent that bad.

I see utes everyday with tacky add ons that leave me thinking i'd rather drive mine with a few hail dents than that monstrosity.

**Giant Cranium** · 14-11-2021, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

You think?

I drive it now and dont even think about it, id rather they fix/replace the hanging panels, give us a few k as compensation and leave the roof alone, no one looks up there anyway and they really arent that bad.

I see utes everyday with tacky add ons that leave me thinking i'd rather drive mine with a few hail dents than that monstrosity.

Chuck a platform on it and you will never know it’s dented

**PG2** · 14-11-2021, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

You think?

I drive it now and dont even think about it, id rather they fix/replace the hanging panels, give us a few k as compensation and leave the roof alone, no one looks up there anyway and they really arent that bad.

I see utes everyday with tacky add ons that leave me thinking i'd rather drive mine with a few hail dents than that monstrosity.

You may find that you can't insure it comprehensively if you leave the hail damage.

hayseed · 15-11-2021, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PG2

You may find that you can't insure it comprehensively if you leave the hail damage.

I think it will depend on the Company..
A Bloke I know bought a hail damaged Ute out of the Auctions at Canberra after their Big hailstorm. he Told Me that the policy had the Pre-existing Hail Damage noted on It, & Hail damage was Excluded..

But that was then, What happens Now may be different..

BENT_8 · 15-11-2021, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PG2

You may find that you can't insure it comprehensively if you leave the hail damage.

Quite possible, i guess thats a question i'll ask after its been assessed and i have an idea of their intentions.
Having said that, i was informed by a dealer that so long as the hail damage is disclosed that insurers will comprehensively insure just not for future hail claims.
He said if that wasnt possible they'd struggle to sell their hail damaged new stock to customers requiring finance which must be comprehensively insured.

BENT_8 · 15-11-2021, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Giant Cranium

Chuck a platform on it and you will never know it’s dented

Thats actually where i was leaning, receive compensation for not having them repair what i cant see and then spend some of that on a Rhino Rack backbone kit and platform for around $1500.
Pocket the balance as a roof skin replacement wouldnt be cheap.

Adamz Ghia · 15-11-2021, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaturbo

Why would you when you can buy a new Triton with 10 years warranty and better resale. That and the Chinese government are **** and are sending some Australians broke. Would rather walk.

Because the equivalent Triton is around $12,000 more expensive, and I don’t believe they come with sports bars as standard so have to add more on to match the GWM spec. You’re not going to get that back in the difference in trade in values.

FPV+fteT3 · 15-11-2021, 09:18 PM

We have started getting these to replace our 2017 VF SV6 wagons. I asked to keep my wagon. We had one for a week to test...... We lost parts off it during that week, the front covers on the roof bars just fell off along the M1

8 speed auto is great

but it doesn't know what gear it should be in constantly changing gears at 60kph hunting for the right one. I expect to have a lot of gearbox issues in the 4 years we will have them. You would reckon at 60 it would be calibrated to stay in 6th but no it wants to go to 8 and then kick down to 6th then repeat. We also had an LDV for a week it was much the same the Boss is buying these on price he has learned nothing from the Renault traffic vans our installers (3) use they are a steaming POS those things. But they were cheap....
As for resale the post above makes me laugh the chinese ute is cheap to buy new, will be worth SFA at trade/resal time.

jpd80 · 16-11-2021, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by FPV+fteT3

We have started getting these to replace our 2017 VF SV6 wagons. I asked to keep my wagon. We had one for a week to test...... We lost parts off it during that week, the front covers on the roof bars just fell off along the M1

8 speed auto is great

but it doesn't know what gear it should be in constantly changing gears at 60kph hunting for the right one. I expect to have a lot of gearbox issues in the 4 years we will have them. You would reckon at 60 it would be calibrated to stay in 6th but no it wants to go to 8 and then kick down to 6th then repeat. We also had an LDV for a week it was much the same the Boss is buying these on price he has learned nothing from the Renault traffic vans our installers (3) use they are a steaming POS those things. But they were cheap....
As for resale the post above makes me laugh the chinese ute is cheap to buy new, will be worth SFA at trade/resal time.

Thanks for sharing those thoughts and initial experience.
So I’m wondering what the difference in monthly payments would be between
the GWM Ute and one of the other Thai Utes. If they’re leased, there’s a guaranteed
buy back price at the end of the term……parts already dropping off isn’t a good sign…..

Interesting comments on the gearbox hunting, definitely report this if it persists
as they should have a software upgrade if everyone complains loud enough